Carney's last kicks?

skymike · 10-05-2009, 07:08 AM

Wait O' Minute?

Wasnt Hartley missing gimmes in preseason???

No Freakin Way.

Kickers are flaky, and the best way to choose kickers is to weed out the flaky
ones first. If you're missing what amounts to an extra point, something's wrong upstairs-- dont blame the holder.

Lets go with the kicker who hits consistenly within his range and gives us no
surprises.

Carney was nailing it from 53 yards during warmups yesterday. I watched.

Crusader · 10-05-2009, 07:38 AM

Never thought I would say this but i want us to keep Carney. I like Hartley and all but Carney is getting it done so far, he's consistant and I liek that.

CantonLegend · 10-05-2009, 08:29 AM

either payton didnt trust carney's range or he was just super confident in his offense to get the short yardage on 4th down

either way carney didnt get an opportunity to show his worth.....hartley hasnt missed a field goal for us in the regular season

Frederick Smith · 10-05-2009, 12:05 PM

This scares me and this is going to be a tough one for Payton. Agree with Smashmouth. They let Carney go before and regretted it. Wish there could be another way out. I say we carry three and let the competion play out during live action before making this call. This could be done in three or four games. Place someone else on the practice squad for now.

DeadmaN · 10-05-2009, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Never thought I would say this but i want us to keep Carney. I like Hartley and all but Carney is getting it done so far, he's consistant and I liek that.

yeah I agree
not to mention it would look good if he broke the 2000 mark with us and not some other team

ScottF · 10-05-2009, 05:05 PM

when does the suspension officially end? Don't we need to make a move one way or the other?

arsaint · 10-05-2009, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

when does the suspension officially end? Don't we need to make a move one way or the other?

As soon as the Jets game ended...

arsaint · 10-05-2009, 05:46 PM

Did we go for that 4th and 1 because we thought we could make it or because we didn't have confidence in Carney to make a 45 yarder.

If you can't trust a guy with a 45 yarder in the Dome, that how little can you trust him outside???

MatthewT · 10-05-2009, 07:28 PM

I think it was more of Sean Payton trying to get the offense moving than not trusting Carney. Payton will learn that when in FG range with a defense playing great you should always go for the points.

skymike · 10-05-2009, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by arsaint

If you can't trust a guy with a 45 yarder in the Dome, that how little can you trust him outside???

Im a Carney homer, but thats a good point, Arkansas.

hows the weather up there?

10-05-2009, 07:08 AM	#11
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Carney's last kicks? Wait O' Minute? Wasnt Hartley missing gimmes in preseason??? No Freakin Way. Kickers are flaky, and the best way to choose kickers is to weed out the flaky ones first. If you're missing what amounts to an extra point, something's wrong upstairs-- dont blame the holder. Lets go with the kicker who hits consistenly within his range and gives us no surprises. Carney was nailing it from 53 yards during warmups yesterday. I watched.

10-05-2009, 07:38 AM	#12
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Carney's last kicks? Never thought I would say this but i want us to keep Carney. I like Hartley and all but Carney is getting it done so far, he's consistant and I liek that.

10-05-2009, 08:29 AM	#13
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Carney's last kicks? either payton didnt trust carney's range or he was just super confident in his offense to get the short yardage on 4th down either way carney didnt get an opportunity to show his worth.....hartley hasnt missed a field goal for us in the regular season

10-05-2009, 12:05 PM	#14
Frederick Smith SaintsFan101 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 217	Re: Carney's last kicks? This scares me and this is going to be a tough one for Payton. Agree with Smashmouth. They let Carney go before and regretted it. Wish there could be another way out. I say we carry three and let the competion play out during live action before making this call. This could be done in three or four games. Place someone else on the practice squad for now.

10-05-2009, 04:56 PM	#15
DeadmaN Saints Junky Join Date: May 2007 Location: Metairie Originally now a Houston transplant Posts: 672	Re: Carney's last kicks? Originally Posted by Crusader Never thought I would say this but i want us to keep Carney. I like Hartley and all but Carney is getting it done so far, he's consistant and I liek that. yeah I agree not to mention it would look good if he broke the 2000 mark with us and not some other team

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arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,705	Re: Carney's last kicks? Originally Posted by ScottF when does the suspension officially end? Don't we need to make a move one way or the other? As soon as the Jets game ended...

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arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,705	Re: Carney's last kicks? Did we go for that 4th and 1 because we thought we could make it or because we didn't have confidence in Carney to make a 45 yarder. If you can't trust a guy with a 45 yarder in the Dome, that how little can you trust him outside???

10-05-2009, 07:28 PM	#19
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Carney's last kicks? I think it was more of Sean Payton trying to get the offense moving than not trusting Carney. Payton will learn that when in FG range with a defense playing great you should always go for the points.

10-05-2009, 07:34 PM	#20
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Carney's last kicks? Originally Posted by arsaint If you can't trust a guy with a 45 yarder in the Dome, that how little can you trust him outside??? Im a Carney homer, but thats a good point, Arkansas. hows the weather up there?