"I hope you're watching!"

FrenzyFan · 10-06-2009, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

gale sayers isnt in the same sentence as walter payton, barry sanders and jim brown even tho he is a hall of famer as well

I agree with everything you said, especially about Sweetness being the absolute greatest running back of all time. However, this statement struck me as odd.

I know Sayers' career was short because of injury, but the guy was simply amazing. Many players who played against him (and other names on our short list) still regard Sayers as the greatest half back that ever played the game. He scored 22 TD in his rookie season, about 1 TD for every 10 touches. He scored 6 TDs (4 rushing, 1 receiving, and 1 punt return) in one game against the 49ers, and in that game the field was a sloshy mud-bowl. Sayers still leads the league for TDs among kickoff returners all time (with at least four TDs). He only had 91 returns, and 6 were TDs. To put it in a modern perspective, Devin Hester has 6 TDs over 94 returns - but Sayers return average is 6 yards per return better and he has 600 more return yards than Hester with 3 fewer total returns!

Finally, Sayers made the HoF with only five years in the NFL. That's virtually unheard of. While Payton still is the ultimate in RB perfection in every facet of the game on and off the field, I do not think there's any overstatement to put Sayers' name in the same sentence with him.

Just my opinion, of course.

spkb25 · 10-06-2009, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by FrenzyFan

I agree with everything you said, especially about Sweetness being the absolute greatest running back of all time. However, this statement struck me as odd.

I know Sayers' career was short because of injury, but the guy was simply amazing. Many players who played against him (and other names on our short list) still regard Sayers as the greatest half back that ever played the game. He scored 22 TD in his rookie season, about 1 TD for every 10 touches. He scored 6 TDs (4 rushing, 1 receiving, and 1 punt return) in one game against the 49ers, and in that game the field was a sloshy mud-bowl. Sayers still leads the league for TDs among kickoff returners all time (with at least four TDs). He only had 91 returns, and 6 were TDs. To put it in a modern perspective, Devin Hester has 6 TDs over 94 returns - but Sayers return average is 6 yards per return better and he has 600 more return yards than Hester with 3 fewer total returns!

Finally, Sayers made the HoF with only five years in the NFL. That's virtually unheard of. While Payton still is the ultimate in RB perfection in every facet of the game on and off the field, I do not think there's any overstatement to put Sayers' name in the same sentence with him.

Just my opinion, of course.

All I am saying is, if you want to have an opinion- can you first provide the mean, variance and standard deviation. Thanks!

skymike · 10-07-2009, 06:21 AM

I would apply the empirical against the perceptive, and esoterically contrast the rhetorical consideration, guarding against unrelated variances.

Saint_LB · 10-07-2009, 06:39 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

I would apply the empirical against the perceptive, and esoterically apply the rhetorical consideration, guarding against unrelated variances.

Please...no comments from the peanut gallery, newbie.

skymike · 10-07-2009, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

Please...no comments from the peanut gallery, newbie.

I was merely noting the academic direction of our rhetorical
discourse, and contrasting the myriad complexities.

Saint_LB · 10-07-2009, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

I was merely noting the academic direction of our rhetorical
discourse, and contrasting the myriad complexities.

To quote one of my favorite TV characters of all time, Goober Pyle...

"Say it again!"

My life would be complete if I could just get a...well...I don't know how to describe it, but it was the little "Tsk" that Goober would do while faking a pinch to your ribs. Anybody know what I'm talking about?

skymike · 10-07-2009, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

To quote one of my favorite TV characters of all time, Goober Pyle...

"Say it again!"

My life would be complete if I could just get a...well...I don't know how to describe it, but it was the little "Tsk" that Goober would do while faking a pinch to your ribs. Anybody know what I'm talking about?

I cant remember that... wish we had a clip. You do mean Goober, not Gomer. I knew they were brothers, but man, I was playing with dinosaurs, cowboys and indians in my grandma's living room when Mayberry was current.

edit: Ok, now that I read your post in relation to mine, I can pretty much visualized Goober & his goofy grin doing that. I remember the show well, but of course, being 4, I missed many of the nuances. (mayberry, nuances---hahaha..) Nope, at that time I was simply amused whenever Aunt Bea said, "Goober."

/threadjack Reggie is a human highlight reel incarnate, an eruption waiting
to happen!

ArmySaintFan · 10-07-2009, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

Please...no comments from the peanut gallery, newbie.

hope that was joke if not real dick move!

ArmySaintFan · 10-07-2009, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by ArmySaintFan

hope that was joke if not real dick move!

yeah yeah go ahead make the newbie crack on me too...lol can't help all my stuff got lost when site crashed

Saint_LB · 10-07-2009, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by ArmySaintFan

hope that was joke if not real dick move!

See what you got me into, FF!

10-06-2009, 07:52 PM	#1
FrenzyFan 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 406	Re: "I hope you're watching!" Originally Posted by CantonLegend gale sayers isnt in the same sentence as walter payton, barry sanders and jim brown even tho he is a hall of famer as well I agree with everything you said, especially about Sweetness being the absolute greatest running back of all time. However, this statement struck me as odd. I know Sayers' career was short because of injury, but the guy was simply amazing. Many players who played against him (and other names on our short list) still regard Sayers as the greatest half back that ever played the game. He scored 22 TD in his rookie season, about 1 TD for every 10 touches. He scored 6 TDs (4 rushing, 1 receiving, and 1 punt return) in one game against the 49ers, and in that game the field was a sloshy mud-bowl. Sayers still leads the league for TDs among kickoff returners all time (with at least four TDs). He only had 91 returns, and 6 were TDs. To put it in a modern perspective, Devin Hester has 6 TDs over 94 returns - but Sayers return average is 6 yards per return better and he has 600 more return yards than Hester with 3 fewer total returns! Finally, Sayers made the HoF with only five years in the NFL. That's virtually unheard of. While Payton still is the ultimate in RB perfection in every facet of the game on and off the field, I do not think there's any overstatement to put Sayers' name in the same sentence with him. Just my opinion, of course.
FrenzyFan 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 406	\"The AB brand of TP will hurt your O-ring.\" - BlackandBlue http://www.darrylbercegeay.com/wsmith1.jpg

10-06-2009, 08:03 PM	#2
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: "I hope you're watching!" Originally Posted by FrenzyFan I agree with everything you said, especially about Sweetness being the absolute greatest running back of all time. However, this statement struck me as odd. I know Sayers' career was short because of injury, but the guy was simply amazing. Many players who played against him (and other names on our short list) still regard Sayers as the greatest half back that ever played the game. He scored 22 TD in his rookie season, about 1 TD for every 10 touches. He scored 6 TDs (4 rushing, 1 receiving, and 1 punt return) in one game against the 49ers, and in that game the field was a sloshy mud-bowl. Sayers still leads the league for TDs among kickoff returners all time (with at least four TDs). He only had 91 returns, and 6 were TDs. To put it in a modern perspective, Devin Hester has 6 TDs over 94 returns - but Sayers return average is 6 yards per return better and he has 600 more return yards than Hester with 3 fewer total returns! Finally, Sayers made the HoF with only five years in the NFL. That's virtually unheard of. While Payton still is the ultimate in RB perfection in every facet of the game on and off the field, I do not think there's any overstatement to put Sayers' name in the same sentence with him. Just my opinion, of course. All I am saying is, if you want to have an opinion- can you first provide the mean, variance and standard deviation. Thanks!

10-07-2009, 06:21 AM	#3
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: "I hope you're watching!" I would apply the empirical against the perceptive, and esoterically contrast the rhetorical consideration, guarding against unrelated variances.
	Last edited by skymike; 10-07-2009 at 06:47 AM..

10-07-2009, 06:39 AM	#4
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: "I hope you're watching!" Originally Posted by skymike I would apply the empirical against the perceptive, and esoterically apply the rhetorical consideration, guarding against unrelated variances. Please...no comments from the peanut gallery, newbie.
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894

10-07-2009, 06:42 AM	#5
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: "I hope you're watching!" Originally Posted by Saint_LB Please...no comments from the peanut gallery, newbie. I was merely noting the academic direction of our rhetorical discourse, and contrasting the myriad complexities.

10-07-2009, 07:20 AM	#6
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: "I hope you're watching!" Originally Posted by skymike I was merely noting the academic direction of our rhetorical discourse, and contrasting the myriad complexities. To quote one of my favorite TV characters of all time, Goober Pyle... "Say it again!" My life would be complete if I could just get a...well...I don't know how to describe it, but it was the little "Tsk" that Goober would do while faking a pinch to your ribs. Anybody know what I'm talking about?
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894

10-07-2009, 07:56 AM	#7
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: "I hope you're watching!" Originally Posted by Saint_LB To quote one of my favorite TV characters of all time, Goober Pyle... "Say it again!" My life would be complete if I could just get a...well...I don't know how to describe it, but it was the little "Tsk" that Goober would do while faking a pinch to your ribs. Anybody know what I'm talking about? I cant remember that... wish we had a clip. You do mean Goober, not Gomer. I knew they were brothers, but man, I was playing with dinosaurs, cowboys and indians in my grandma's living room when Mayberry was current. edit: Ok, now that I read your post in relation to mine, I can pretty much visualized Goober & his goofy grin doing that. I remember the show well, but of course, being 4, I missed many of the nuances. (mayberry, nuances---hahaha..) Nope, at that time I was simply amused whenever Aunt Bea said, "Goober." /threadjack Reggie is a human highlight reel incarnate, an eruption waiting to happen!
	Last edited by skymike; 10-07-2009 at 08:02 AM..

10-07-2009, 03:02 PM	#8
ArmySaintFan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 171	Re: "I hope you're watching!" Originally Posted by Saint_LB Please...no comments from the peanut gallery, newbie. hope that was joke if not real dick move!

10-07-2009, 03:03 PM	#9
ArmySaintFan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 171	Re: "I hope you're watching!" Originally Posted by ArmySaintFan hope that was joke if not real dick move! yeah yeah go ahead make the newbie crack on me too...lol can't help all my stuff got lost when site crashed

10-07-2009, 03:24 PM	#10
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: "I hope you're watching!" Originally Posted by ArmySaintFan hope that was joke if not real dick move! See what you got me into, FF!
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894