Bobby Hebert reaction to fumble. LOL!!! AWESOME!!!

Tobias-Reiper · 10-08-2009, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

Those of you who so easily brush off what he did is mysterious to me...and brings me back to my original question. All I can say is all those who welcome back the turncoat must not have been around when all this crap happened. It is beyond me how one person can cause so much chaos in an organization and still be welcome by the fans...just beyond me.

It is interesting to point out, though, that while Fourcade was finishing the season that Bobby was benched, he won the last three games on the schedule while beating a tough Philly team and a tough Buffalo team, Jim Kelly and all, in Buffalo...and in doing so won a $50K incentive bonus for Hebert. Hebert had a clause that said if the Saints won 10 games he would get the extra lettuce.

Well, I was around when all of that happened, and I would like to ask you, what exactly is it that Bobby did to the franchise?
Did he bench himself?
Did he come up and/or approved the trade for Walsh?
Did he bring in Wade Wilson?
Was he coaching the Saints in 1992-1993?
If Fourcade was that good of a QB that "he" won the last 3 games of the 1989 season against tough teams, was Bobby's idea to release Fourcade and bring in the aforementioned Walsh?
Why didn't Fourcade start in 1990? Did Bobby made that decision?

After all, Bobby was benched, right? He didn't bench himself. It was the coach's decision to bench him with the blessing of the FO. So how could a player who "obviously" wasn't good enough to play for the team in 1989 create all of this turmoil in 1990-1991-1992-1993?

No Sir. You can resent Bobby for holding out, but you need to resent Jim Finks as well for mis-managing the entire affair.

Saint_LB · 10-08-2009, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

Well, I was around when all of that happened, and I would like to ask you, what exactly is it that Bobby did to the franchise?
Did he bench himself?
Did he come up and/or approved the trade for Walsh?
Did he bring in Wade Wilson?
Was he coaching the Saints in 1992-1993?
If Fourcade was that good of a QB that "he" won the last 3 games of the 1989 season against tough teams, was Bobby's idea to release Fourcade and bring in the aforementioned Walsh?
Why didn't Fourcade start in 1990? Did Bobby made that decision?

After all, Bobby was benched, right? He didn't bench himself. It was the coach's decision to bench him with the blessing of the FO. So how could a player who "obviously" wasn't good enough to play for the team in 1989 create all of this turmoil in 1990-1991-1992-1993?

No Sir. You can resent Bobby for holding out, but you need to resent Jim Finks as well for mis-managing the entire affair.

He didn't handle the benching like a man.

exile · 10-08-2009, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

What I was wondering, from the very beginning, though, is it the fact that Bobby was from Louisiana and Favre is not from Wisconsin (sorry, DIU, I'll never talk about him in another one of your threads...and I'm not trying to be, well, you know), or will this thing eventually blow over and some day Favre will be sitting in the booth at Lambeau field doing GB games?

Favre isn't from Wisconsin like you mentioned and didn't play college ball there either. But I would bet that after his football career he could do whatever he wanted in there and he would be welcomed.

Saint_LB · 10-08-2009, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by exile

Favre isn't from Wisconsin like you mentioned and didn't play college ball there either. But I would bet that after his football career he could do whatever he wanted in there and he would be welcomed.

I'm betting you are right.

Tobias-Reiper · 10-08-2009, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

He didn't handle the benching like a man.

Oh, well, that sure explains it, doesn't it?

Jim Finks and Jim Mora Sr f*ed things up royally handling the situation, but they f*ed things up royally like real men...got it.

Saint_LB · 10-08-2009, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

Oh, well, that sure explains it, doesn't it?

Jim Finks and Jim Mora Sr f*ed things up royally handling the situation, but they f*ed things up royally like real men...got it.

So...I'm guessing from your comment that you don't believe Bobby deserved to be benched in the first place? That would be a valid arguement, IMO.

skymike · 10-08-2009, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

...will this thing eventually blow over and some day Favre will be sitting in the booth at Lambeau field doing GB games?

Thats an interesting question. I think he will be welcome. He stil
has a steakhouse in GB, and it looked full on tv.

Tobias-Reiper · 10-08-2009, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

So...I'm guessing from your comment that you don't believe Bobby deserved to be benched in the first place? That would be a valid arguement, IMO.

Whether Bobby deserved to be benched or not, the entire situation was totally mis-handled by the coach and the FO.

To me, this is what it boils to:

In the eyes of the coaching staff and the FO, was Hebert the best option at QB for the Saints?

If he was, and benched him for reasons other than his play, then the coach and the FO screwed things up from the get-go, Hebert should not have been benched, and Hebert should've gotten paid. One thing is for a starter to have a bad game, and the coach sitting him that game, another thing is making a starting QB change. Once you do that,you are telling that QB and everyone else he's not good enough to be your QB. And if he's not good enough to be your QB, what do you care as a coach or FO if he sits out a year or not?

If he wasn't, the team should've cut ties right there and then at the end of the 1989 season. Again,if he's not good enough,why would the coach of FO care if he's even on the team? And definitely they should have not given Dallas all those picks for Walsh, or plain bring in Walsh for that matter. And most definitely should not have brought Hebert back in 1991 and admit they were wrong.

So for me, whatever Bobby did for whatever reasons he did it, it does not compare to the royal screw up of the coaching staff and Front Office in handling the situation.

..and for the record,I didn't think Bobby deserved to be benched at the time.

exile · 10-08-2009, 11:11 AM

I missed listening to WWL yesterday. Anyone know if this dance was brought up?

foreverfan · 10-08-2009, 11:29 AM

Time cures all ills. Deep down Bobby has proven that he's one of us.

Finks screwed up the deal. Bobby acted like a man and got a better deal in Atlanta. I welcomed playing him when he was with Atlanta.

Bobby is a Who Dat through and through. He's forgiven by me. Joe Horn too!

10-08-2009, 09:16 AM	#61
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Bobby Hebert reaction to fumble. LOL!!! AWESOME!!! Originally Posted by Saint_LB Those of you who so easily brush off what he did is mysterious to me...and brings me back to my original question. All I can say is all those who welcome back the turncoat must not have been around when all this crap happened. It is beyond me how one person can cause so much chaos in an organization and still be welcome by the fans...just beyond me. It is interesting to point out, though, that while Fourcade was finishing the season that Bobby was benched, he won the last three games on the schedule while beating a tough Philly team and a tough Buffalo team, Jim Kelly and all, in Buffalo...and in doing so won a $50K incentive bonus for Hebert. Hebert had a clause that said if the Saints won 10 games he would get the extra lettuce. Well, I was around when all of that happened, and I would like to ask you, what exactly is it that Bobby did to the franchise? Did he bench himself? Did he come up and/or approved the trade for Walsh? Did he bring in Wade Wilson? Was he coaching the Saints in 1992-1993? If Fourcade was that good of a QB that "he" won the last 3 games of the 1989 season against tough teams, was Bobby's idea to release Fourcade and bring in the aforementioned Walsh? Why didn't Fourcade start in 1990? Did Bobby made that decision? After all, Bobby was benched, right? He didn't bench himself. It was the coach's decision to bench him with the blessing of the FO. So how could a player who "obviously" wasn't good enough to play for the team in 1989 create all of this turmoil in 1990-1991-1992-1993? No Sir. You can resent Bobby for holding out, but you need to resent Jim Finks as well for mis-managing the entire affair.
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10-08-2009, 09:19 AM	#62
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Bobby Hebert reaction to fumble. LOL!!! AWESOME!!! Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Well, I was around when all of that happened, and I would like to ask you, what exactly is it that Bobby did to the franchise? Did he bench himself? Did he come up and/or approved the trade for Walsh? Did he bring in Wade Wilson? Was he coaching the Saints in 1992-1993? If Fourcade was that good of a QB that "he" won the last 3 games of the 1989 season against tough teams, was Bobby's idea to release Fourcade and bring in the aforementioned Walsh? Why didn't Fourcade start in 1990? Did Bobby made that decision? After all, Bobby was benched, right? He didn't bench himself. It was the coach's decision to bench him with the blessing of the FO. So how could a player who "obviously" wasn't good enough to play for the team in 1989 create all of this turmoil in 1990-1991-1992-1993? No Sir. You can resent Bobby for holding out, but you need to resent Jim Finks as well for mis-managing the entire affair. He didn't handle the benching like a man.
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10-08-2009, 09:22 AM	#63
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: Bobby Hebert reaction to fumble. LOL!!! AWESOME!!! Originally Posted by Saint_LB What I was wondering, from the very beginning, though, is it the fact that Bobby was from Louisiana and Favre is not from Wisconsin (sorry, DIU, I'll never talk about him in another one of your threads...and I'm not trying to be, well, you know), or will this thing eventually blow over and some day Favre will be sitting in the booth at Lambeau field doing GB games? Favre isn't from Wisconsin like you mentioned and didn't play college ball there either. But I would bet that after his football career he could do whatever he wanted in there and he would be welcomed.
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10-08-2009, 09:24 AM	#64
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Bobby Hebert reaction to fumble. LOL!!! AWESOME!!! Originally Posted by exile Favre isn't from Wisconsin like you mentioned and didn't play college ball there either. But I would bet that after his football career he could do whatever he wanted in there and he would be welcomed. I'm betting you are right.
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10-08-2009, 09:28 AM	#66
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Bobby Hebert reaction to fumble. LOL!!! AWESOME!!! Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Oh, well, that sure explains it, doesn't it? Jim Finks and Jim Mora Sr fed things up royally handling the situation, but they fed things up royally like real men...got it. So...I'm guessing from your comment that you don't believe Bobby deserved to be benched in the first place? That would be a valid arguement, IMO.
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10-08-2009, 09:43 AM	#67
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Bobby Hebert reaction to fumble. LOL!!! AWESOME!!! Originally Posted by Saint_LB ...will this thing eventually blow over and some day Favre will be sitting in the booth at Lambeau field doing GB games? Thats an interesting question. I think he will be welcome. He stil has a steakhouse in GB, and it looked full on tv.

10-08-2009, 11:00 AM	#68
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Bobby Hebert reaction to fumble. LOL!!! AWESOME!!! Originally Posted by Saint_LB So...I'm guessing from your comment that you don't believe Bobby deserved to be benched in the first place? That would be a valid arguement, IMO. Whether Bobby deserved to be benched or not, the entire situation was totally mis-handled by the coach and the FO. To me, this is what it boils to: In the eyes of the coaching staff and the FO, was Hebert the best option at QB for the Saints? If he was, and benched him for reasons other than his play, then the coach and the FO screwed things up from the get-go, Hebert should not have been benched, and Hebert should've gotten paid. One thing is for a starter to have a bad game, and the coach sitting him that game, another thing is making a starting QB change. Once you do that,you are telling that QB and everyone else he's not good enough to be your QB. And if he's not good enough to be your QB, what do you care as a coach or FO if he sits out a year or not? If he wasn't, the team should've cut ties right there and then at the end of the 1989 season. Again,if he's not good enough,why would the coach of FO care if he's even on the team? And definitely they should have not given Dallas all those picks for Walsh, or plain bring in Walsh for that matter. And most definitely should not have brought Hebert back in 1991 and admit they were wrong. So for me, whatever Bobby did for whatever reasons he did it, it does not compare to the royal screw up of the coaching staff and Front Office in handling the situation. ..and for the record,I didn't think Bobby deserved to be benched at the time.
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10-08-2009, 11:29 AM	#70
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Bobby Hebert reaction to fumble. LOL!!! AWESOME!!! Time cures all ills. Deep down Bobby has proven that he's one of us. Finks screwed up the deal. Bobby acted like a man and got a better deal in Atlanta. I welcomed playing him when he was with Atlanta. Bobby is a Who Dat through and through. He's forgiven by me. Joe Horn too!