Reggie

Euphoria · 10-20-2009, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

Well, after watching some of the NFL Network shows and seeing some people break down film of the Colston and Moore TDs, the one thing I have to say, defenses are still biting hard on the play action with Reggie. The analysts didn't mention it was Reggie on the play action, but I noticed it was Reggie both times.

On the Colston and Moore TDs, Drew faked the hand off to Reggie. The SS immediately went up to fill the gap, and the LBs froze. Result: wide open Colston for TD, wide open Moore for TD.

You also notice Reggie's blocking on passing plays.

So, still, without the ball, Reggie is a big part of this offense. I still cringe when he returns punts or tries to run it up the middle, but if him being in there helps Drew, Colston, Moore, Shockey, etc to make plays downfield the way they were making plays downfield against the Giants, let it be.

They are bitting hard on play action on any RB we have. If you see them going after Reggie its because they see a chance at causing a fumble.

Tobias-Reiper · 10-20-2009, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

They are bitting hard on play action on any RB we have. If you see them going after Reggie its because they see a chance at causing a fumble.

.. well, even so, if Payton is using the other team's hunger for a turnover to open up the passing game, why stop now?

Euphoria · 10-20-2009, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

.. well, even so, if Payton is using the other team's hunger for a turnover to open up the passing game, why stop now?

LMAO hey ok sure why not as long as its not when the game is on the line and its down the other end of the field so its more of a punt than a fumble right.

I don't know if you guys really pay attention to the game at all but the Saints passing game is all timing and Bree's precision. Everyone is on the same page when the play is for the ball to be at a certain spot at a certain time. Brees gets that ball released to a spot and the WR hasn't even looked back for the ball they sometimes just start putting there hands up or jumping because they know where the ball is going to be. You can't defend that, has nothing to do with an effective running game. An effective running game is to keep take time off the clock. Look what Bees did last year with no running game.
The ONLY difference this year is that we have a D and our running game is slightly improved with Bush at 3rd string (LMAO).

exile · 10-20-2009, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

LMAO hey ok sure why not as long as its not when the game is on the line and its down the other end of the field so its more of a punt than a fumble right.

So they are counting their chickens on a guy fumbling who only has 1 fumble all year? Or is it the 2 he lost last year that is giving him away?

WhoDat205 · 10-20-2009, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

LMAO hey ok sure why not as long as its not when the game is on the line and its down the other end of the field so its more of a punt than a fumble right.

I don't know if you guys really pay attention to the game at all but the Saints passing game is all timing and Bree's precision. Everyone is on the same page when the play is for the ball to be at a certain spot at a certain time. Brees gets that ball released to a spot and the WR hasn't even looked back for the ball they sometimes just start putting there hands up or jumping because they know where the ball is going to be. You can't defend that, has nothing to do with an effective running game. An effective running game is to keep take time off the clock. Look what Bees did last year with no running game.
The ONLY difference this year is that we have a D and our running game is slightly improved with Bush at 3rd string (LMAO).

You realize that all 4 of Brees' TDs were off the play action, right? I'd say it's doing a little more than killing the clock. Hell, the run game bailed us out in two games this season.

But the real question is, if reggie is as bad as you say, who would trade for him and what would they give up?

jn671 · 10-20-2009, 12:27 PM

Alright obviously we have Reggie lovers and Reggie haters. I appreciate all your opinions about him but guys were 5-0. And Reggie was a part of it you have to agree. He's not great but he can get the job done (at times). But come on he still an asset to our team. Reggie still needs to find himself and he will. He will benefit us a lot more in the future. We found our dual back package Now we have our 3rd back. Our decoy one that every defense accounts for which make our receivers open. And also allows Heath to run the ball or catch it in the flats. So you may hate but give him credit atleast an ounce. Cause I mean look back at 2006 we made the playoffs with him and deuce and brees. He's been injured the past 2 years now healthy give him time to adjust.

Euphoria · 10-20-2009, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by jn671

Alright obviously we have Reggie lovers and Reggie haters. I appreciate all your opinions about him but guys were 5-0. And Reggie was a part of it you have to agree. He's not great but he can get the job done (at times). But come on he still an asset to our team. Reggie still needs to find himself and he will. He will benefit us a lot more in the future. We found our dual back package Now we have our 3rd back. Our decoy one that every defense accounts for which make our receivers open. And also allows Heath to run the ball or catch it in the flats. So you may hate but give him credit atleast an ounce. Cause I mean look back at 2006 we made the playoffs with him and deuce and brees. He's been injured the past 2 years now healthy give him time to adjust.

Its not about being a hater or a lover or Bush its about the business for NFL football. If Reggie won a game for us I would pat him on the back and celebrate all the same. If you do nothing to contribute and make a fat check you become expendable. I think we can agree on that issue.

Euphoria · 10-20-2009, 12:40 PM

He is 3rd string for a reason.

jn671 · 10-20-2009, 12:46 PM

Two fumbles big deal.

Euphoria · 10-20-2009, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by jn671

Two fumbles big deal.

Its a huge deal when he muffed punts and hasn't contributed to wins, the amount of money he is making. The real question is at this point if he doesn't get with the program could we win without him and sorry my answer to that questions is a YES!

10-20-2009, 11:57 AM	#1
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Reggie Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Well, after watching some of the NFL Network shows and seeing some people break down film of the Colston and Moore TDs, the one thing I have to say, defenses are still biting hard on the play action with Reggie. The analysts didn't mention it was Reggie on the play action, but I noticed it was Reggie both times. On the Colston and Moore TDs, Drew faked the hand off to Reggie. The SS immediately went up to fill the gap, and the LBs froze. Result: wide open Colston for TD, wide open Moore for TD. You also notice Reggie's blocking on passing plays. So, still, without the ball, Reggie is a big part of this offense. I still cringe when he returns punts or tries to run it up the middle, but if him being in there helps Drew, Colston, Moore, Shockey, etc to make plays downfield the way they were making plays downfield against the Giants, let it be. They are bitting hard on play action on any RB we have. If you see them going after Reggie its because they see a chance at causing a fumble.

10-20-2009, 12:02 PM	#2
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Reggie Originally Posted by Euphoria They are bitting hard on play action on any RB we have. If you see them going after Reggie its because they see a chance at causing a fumble. .. well, even so, if Payton is using the other team's hunger for a turnover to open up the passing game, why stop now?

10-20-2009, 12:30 PM	#3
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Reggie Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper .. well, even so, if Payton is using the other team's hunger for a turnover to open up the passing game, why stop now? LMAO hey ok sure why not as long as its not when the game is on the line and its down the other end of the field so its more of a punt than a fumble right. I don't know if you guys really pay attention to the game at all but the Saints passing game is all timing and Bree's precision. Everyone is on the same page when the play is for the ball to be at a certain spot at a certain time. Brees gets that ball released to a spot and the WR hasn't even looked back for the ball they sometimes just start putting there hands up or jumping because they know where the ball is going to be. You can't defend that, has nothing to do with an effective running game. An effective running game is to keep take time off the clock. Look what Bees did last year with no running game. The ONLY difference this year is that we have a D and our running game is slightly improved with Bush at 3rd string (LMAO).
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10-20-2009, 12:38 PM	#4
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: Reggie Originally Posted by Euphoria LMAO hey ok sure why not as long as its not when the game is on the line and its down the other end of the field so its more of a punt than a fumble right. So they are counting their chickens on a guy fumbling who only has 1 fumble all year? Or is it the 2 he lost last year that is giving him away?
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10-20-2009, 12:57 PM	#5
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Reggie Originally Posted by Euphoria LMAO hey ok sure why not as long as its not when the game is on the line and its down the other end of the field so its more of a punt than a fumble right. I don't know if you guys really pay attention to the game at all but the Saints passing game is all timing and Bree's precision. Everyone is on the same page when the play is for the ball to be at a certain spot at a certain time. Brees gets that ball released to a spot and the WR hasn't even looked back for the ball they sometimes just start putting there hands up or jumping because they know where the ball is going to be. You can't defend that, has nothing to do with an effective running game. An effective running game is to keep take time off the clock. Look what Bees did last year with no running game. The ONLY difference this year is that we have a D and our running game is slightly improved with Bush at 3rd string (LMAO). You realize that all 4 of Brees' TDs were off the play action, right? I'd say it's doing a little more than killing the clock. Hell, the run game bailed us out in two games this season. But the real question is, if reggie is as bad as you say, who would trade for him and what would they give up?

10-20-2009, 12:27 PM	#6
jn671 Guam Saints Fan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Guam, USA Posts: 411 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Reggie Alright obviously we have Reggie lovers and Reggie haters. I appreciate all your opinions about him but guys were 5-0. And Reggie was a part of it you have to agree. He's not great but he can get the job done (at times). But come on he still an asset to our team. Reggie still needs to find himself and he will. He will benefit us a lot more in the future. We found our dual back package Now we have our 3rd back. Our decoy one that every defense accounts for which make our receivers open. And also allows Heath to run the ball or catch it in the flats. So you may hate but give him credit atleast an ounce. Cause I mean look back at 2006 we made the playoffs with him and deuce and brees. He's been injured the past 2 years now healthy give him time to adjust.

10-20-2009, 12:52 PM	#7
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Reggie Originally Posted by jn671 Alright obviously we have Reggie lovers and Reggie haters. I appreciate all your opinions about him but guys were 5-0. And Reggie was a part of it you have to agree. He's not great but he can get the job done (at times). But come on he still an asset to our team. Reggie still needs to find himself and he will. He will benefit us a lot more in the future. We found our dual back package Now we have our 3rd back. Our decoy one that every defense accounts for which make our receivers open. And also allows Heath to run the ball or catch it in the flats. So you may hate but give him credit atleast an ounce. Cause I mean look back at 2006 we made the playoffs with him and deuce and brees. He's been injured the past 2 years now healthy give him time to adjust. Its not about being a hater or a lover or Bush its about the business for NFL football. If Reggie won a game for us I would pat him on the back and celebrate all the same. If you do nothing to contribute and make a fat check you become expendable. I think we can agree on that issue.

10-20-2009, 12:40 PM	#8
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Reggie He is 3rd string for a reason.

10-20-2009, 12:46 PM	#9
jn671 Guam Saints Fan Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Guam, USA Posts: 411 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Reggie Two fumbles big deal.

10-20-2009, 12:49 PM	#10
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Reggie Originally Posted by jn671 Two fumbles big deal. Its a huge deal when he muffed punts and hasn't contributed to wins, the amount of money he is making. The real question is at this point if he doesn't get with the program could we win without him and sorry my answer to that questions is a YES!