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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Well, after watching some of the NFL Network shows and seeing some people break down film of the Colston and Moore TDs, the one thing I have to say, defenses are still biting hard on the ...

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Old 10-20-2009, 11:57 AM   #1
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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper View Post
Well, after watching some of the NFL Network shows and seeing some people break down film of the Colston and Moore TDs, the one thing I have to say, defenses are still biting hard on the play action with Reggie. The analysts didn't mention it was Reggie on the play action, but I noticed it was Reggie both times.

On the Colston and Moore TDs, Drew faked the hand off to Reggie. The SS immediately went up to fill the gap, and the LBs froze. Result: wide open Colston for TD, wide open Moore for TD.

You also notice Reggie's blocking on passing plays.

So, still, without the ball, Reggie is a big part of this offense. I still cringe when he returns punts or tries to run it up the middle, but if him being in there helps Drew, Colston, Moore, Shockey, etc to make plays downfield the way they were making plays downfield against the Giants, let it be.
They are bitting hard on play action on any RB we have. If you see them going after Reggie its because they see a chance at causing a fumble.
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Old 10-20-2009, 12:02 PM   #2
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They are bitting hard on play action on any RB we have. If you see them going after Reggie its because they see a chance at causing a fumble.
.. well, even so, if Payton is using the other team's hunger for a turnover to open up the passing game, why stop now?
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Old 10-20-2009, 12:30 PM   #3
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.. well, even so, if Payton is using the other team's hunger for a turnover to open up the passing game, why stop now?
LMAO hey ok sure why not as long as its not when the game is on the line and its down the other end of the field so its more of a punt than a fumble right.

I don't know if you guys really pay attention to the game at all but the Saints passing game is all timing and Bree's precision. Everyone is on the same page when the play is for the ball to be at a certain spot at a certain time. Brees gets that ball released to a spot and the WR hasn't even looked back for the ball they sometimes just start putting there hands up or jumping because they know where the ball is going to be. You can't defend that, has nothing to do with an effective running game. An effective running game is to keep take time off the clock. Look what Bees did last year with no running game.
The ONLY difference this year is that we have a D and our running game is slightly improved with Bush at 3rd string (LMAO).

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Old 10-20-2009, 12:38 PM   #4
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LMAO hey ok sure why not as long as its not when the game is on the line and its down the other end of the field so its more of a punt than a fumble right.
So they are counting their chickens on a guy fumbling who only has 1 fumble all year? Or is it the 2 he lost last year that is giving him away?
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LMAO hey ok sure why not as long as its not when the game is on the line and its down the other end of the field so its more of a punt than a fumble right.

I don't know if you guys really pay attention to the game at all but the Saints passing game is all timing and Bree's precision. Everyone is on the same page when the play is for the ball to be at a certain spot at a certain time. Brees gets that ball released to a spot and the WR hasn't even looked back for the ball they sometimes just start putting there hands up or jumping because they know where the ball is going to be. You can't defend that, has nothing to do with an effective running game. An effective running game is to keep take time off the clock. Look what Bees did last year with no running game.
The ONLY difference this year is that we have a D and our running game is slightly improved with Bush at 3rd string (LMAO).
You realize that all 4 of Brees' TDs were off the play action, right? I'd say it's doing a little more than killing the clock. Hell, the run game bailed us out in two games this season.

But the real question is, if reggie is as bad as you say, who would trade for him and what would they give up?
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:18 PM   #6
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You realize that all 4 of Brees' TDs were off the play action, right? I'd say it's doing a little more than killing the clock. Hell, the run game bailed us out in two games this season.

But the real question is, if reggie is as bad as you say, who would trade for him and what would they give up?
I don't know if you understand my point... not saying he is as bad as anything but for a business stand point it doesn't make much sense to have a player collecting a fat check not contributing to wins as other players making very little money. Thats just down right bad business! When we have to deal with cap issues he isn't making this any easier for his cause.

I don't know if I would take anyone for him but I would take draft 'picks'. we have a history of doing well with later round draft picks. We could use some special teams help the ways its going.

Also doesn't make much sense to have a Number 2 overall pick sitting 3rd string anything. I mean come on really?

I'll say this in caps so its clear "I HOPE HE TURNS IT AROUND I HOPE HE WINS GAMES FOR US". Right now it doesn't make much sense business wise.

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I don't know if you understand my point... not saying he is as bad as anything but for a business stand point it doesn't make much sense to have a player collecting a fat check not contributing to wins as other players making very little money. Thats just down right bad business! When we have to deal with cap issues he isn't making this any easier for his cause.

I don't know if I would take anyone for him but I would take draft 'picks'. we have a history of doing well with later round draft picks. We could use some special teams help the ways its going.

Also doesn't make much sense to have a Number 2 overall pick sitting 3rd string anything. I mean come on really?

I'll say this in caps so its clear "I HOPE HE TURNS IT AROUND I HOPE HE WINS GAMES FOR US". Right now it doesn't make much sense business wise.
I asking what you think Reggie's trade value is. With his body of work, his injury history and his heavy contract, who is going to deal for him? What 'picks' would you as the decision maker give up for him?

This is all to say that I think we are stuck with Reggie for better or worse. I don't think we could get a deal done for him.
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