A Good Team Would Have Beaten Us Today.
 

Seriously. I know our secondary was banged up but we got it handed to us all day. 2nd to last play of the game, Bulger had a man wide open cause Gay broke inside. Bulger chose to throw to Avery and luckily it was a bad pass that hit Jenkins. Had he hit the other receiver, TD easy.

Also SP worst game? I think so. Porter looks like he could be done too. Not good at all.

Having said that, 9-0 WHO-DAT!

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Porter out scares the crap out of me. We have 2 stud DBs (at this point in their careers) - Porter and Greer.

This team can forget about beating NE or Atl with an effort like today's...

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I don't know what Drew's problem is but he's killing us with those INT's. He's been in a funk now for a month. If he doesn't get that corrected it's gonna bite us. A very dissapointing game to say the least. These players need to stop reading their press clippings.

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Well we can not beat Atlanta or NE missing 5 starters- true. The simple fact is the only thing I care about today is TP. If he is done for the year, it hurts, and it hurts bad

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Odds are Porter IS done for the year.

Head down, looked like he was crying on the cart. BAD signs. Probably knows something was torn...

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Yeah my guess too

****!!!!!

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When Drew feels the pressure he is not as effective as he usually is. We are missing our starting fullback and our LT is out for the season. Teams look like they have figured out how to get around Bushrod and the assistance given to him. It shows that this defense is a work in progress, our backups on defense aren't stepping up fully to the task. This was another sloppy game that we could easily have lost.

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It is not the same D bro. You are talking about 5 names that were not there previously. Yeah 5 new guys does make a defense a work in progress

Did SF play today?

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Good teams overcome injuries. We need to get as many guys back as we can and step up and make plays.

Drew's funk needs to end, and soon. Colston also needs to get back to his old self.

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Great teams do not overcome 5 injuries to key players on one side of the ball. I don't care what team it is. That is a cliché, and it is not true. Look at who makes the SB, and it is generally teams that stay healthy.

You overcome a few injuries, and we have, but not 5 on one side of the ball, nope! We overcame that because of the team we played.

Agreed we need as many players back, absolutely. The one that hurts the most is TP

Scares the **** out of me

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I don't blame Drew for INT1.

INT2 was all on him...

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Time to pick up Mike McKenzie in light of Porter's injury.

The turnovers obviously have to stop, or we have no chance against N.E.

And what's up with Colston's Reggie Bush impression? Like he needed to go airborne.... Made the game needlessly close!

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+1

I appreciate him trying to make a play, but you're got to come away from redzone trips with SOMETHING.

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Yeah soon as he went to leap, I put a "uh-oh" face on and sure enough...uh-oh.

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Heck, with the way the Saints have played, and now the injuries are getting to where they were last year, I don't really like the Saints chances next week against Tampa Bay. All the Saints can really do at this point is to eliminate turnovers, and that should at least prevent them from going into a major losing streak. Over the next several games it's going to be important for the Saints to just hang in there, and hope they can get players healthy, backup players playing better, and just hope they can get hot at the end of the season and carry that into the playoffs. The good news is the Saints are 9-0 and have a 4 game lead in the division.

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The good news is that Gay is better than Jason David, even if he isn't a starter on defense. We'll be fine when Greer and Sharper come back. Not nearly as strong on defense, but much better than today.

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Perspective...

We are 9-0...

How would you like to be a Browns, Bucs, Rams, or even, ****, a Raiders fan right now?!?

They've played down to the talent and haven't tapped the playbook as much (not showing their hand) and they're still winning games...

Stop the Post Season and Perfect season talk and just like the players are told...take one game at a time and enjoy each victory that only half the teams in the league get to enjoy each week...

Read some of the pisser comments on the Falcons website a few weeks ago...let's be better than that is all I'm saying...

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Finally, a voice of reason. I'm reading way too much panic management from the faithful on the boards. McKenzie? There's a reason they didn't bring him back. The guy couldn't cover man with a blanket because he's lost way too much foot speed. Hell, bring back David while you're at it!

My take is that the team just has to do a better job of taking care of the ball. Period. Turnovers are killing us. I also see Drew's timing/comfort being off, for want of a better term. His poise in the pocket is definitely weak. While I wish Porter the best, other teams are still putting together strong performances with loads of injuries to their ranks (Colts come to mind.).

Bottom line: Concern yes, panic no. Let the coaches adjust the schemes and lets see if some back up players to 'kick it up, another notch'!

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No need for panic, agreed. but you have to factor in the Vikings may very well go 15-1 or 14-2. Their only loss so far was to an AFC team. You don't want to play Min in Min. Also if the injury bug keeps biting here we may limp into the play-offs and get sent home quick.

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the time for worrying is now.....we need to get these problems fixed within the next 2 weeks because new england is right around the corner and we cant beat them if we play like this

i understand we have a lot of injuries right now but injuries are not giving up 115 rushing yards per game

we are getting exposed and it is a concern right now

one thing to mention is that teams like miami, carolina, atlanta, and st louis are very solid teams that have records completely indicative of their schedules

all of them have very tough schedules and their records are suffering because of it.....we also have a tough schedule but we are pulling wins out of our hats like good teams should

the only thing im disappointed in is that looking at games like this, that the colts have already played, its hard to group us with them

minnesota and indianoplis blew out the rams and we barely came out with a win

if we plan on playing with the elite, we need to get better fast......we arent going to get healthier as the season goes on.....the NFL doesnt work like that

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Relax a lot of football to be played. Those INT were not Drew's fault. One was tip. A good team would have beat the SAINTS, but we didn't play a good team.

Crack open a Mello Yello the Saints are 9 - 0

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Don't push that button

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I noticed that too. He knew it. I knew it. We all know he's done for this year, and it just completely sucks.
Porter deserves better-- he should be part of the SB celebration. Maybe he will. still. Even though he'd be gold IR sweatsuit, he deserves to celebrate, if we go.

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oh, and while we're playing IF's. How bout the Patriots this morning?
For twice in my life, (both yesterday) I am glad we are dealing with IS, and not IF.

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In the words of a once famous man..."coulda, woulda, shoulda."

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Most of the injured players on D will be back sooner rather than later. Clancy and Porter are the only 2 out for the season, and you can hardly say were missing Clancy because he really hasnt played much this season. We are going to miss Porter a lot, his ability to man up on a WR opposite of Greer gave Gregg Williams the ability to be very aggressive when he wanted to be.

Gay and Jenkins will have to step up their play for the rest of the season, and I have no reason to believe that they wont. Gay has played solid ball for us the past 2 season, although last game was by far his worst in a Saints uniform. Jenkins has shown that he is a playmaker, you can call him a CB, FS or whatever you want, I'll call him a playmaker. He looks a bit lost at times while on D, but there are going to be a lot more reps in his future and I expect him to come around nicely before playoff time.

DeMario Pressley and Hargrove have both played well in big Seds spot, and I cant even say that there has been a drop off from Clancy to Ayodele. Our DTs are all very young and still improving every day.

Injuries are a major part of the NFL, the last few games we have racked up more than I would like, but it is giving the younger players a chance to get more reps during the week and games. That could turn out to be a very good thing come playoff time.

Edit: Just read Porter will be back this season. That is great news!!:notworthy:

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Porter not out for season. This thread just became moot.

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No, it hasn't. A good team would have beaten us. And Porter was in for most of the game. Bottom line is we have a lot to clean up before the Pats. If we want Dome field advantage for the plays offs we better not lose more than 1 or maybe 2 and right now we look capable of losing 4-5. gotta clean it up.

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Deal or No Deal?
:mrgreen:

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Who are the 4 or 5 you plan on losing to? The Pats are the only team I can see taking us. Have you seen the Bucs, Falcons, Cowboys, Redskins, and Panthers this year? We can take all of those teams on our worst day.

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.. so what you are saying is that if both Ellis and Clancy were there, teams still would be able to run the ball?

... racking up yards in the first half and inflating the stats is fine and dandy, but if you are a running team, you can't put away teams with your running game if you cannot run in the 3rd and 4th quarters. Unless the Panthers, Falcons, Dolphins, and Rams beat the Saints and I'm not aware of those losses, I don't think teams are running on the Saints when it counts, i.e., the second half.

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Completely Agree,

By the way we had over 200 yds rushing yesterday. No one will mention that on here Im sure.

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Over the past four games, our team (and defense in particular) has been polar opposites.

I believe that's a sign of good coaching.

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Completely disagree. Pats, Falcons in ATL, Cowboys, Panther's in Carolina could all pull the upset. Falcons and Panthers played us tough at our home. Carolina is starting to look like a playoff team and the Cowboys when they are on are a tough team.

Don't be so blinded by your fan goggles. I think 13-3 is an honest prediction, although yes we COULD win them all. The Pats game is going to tell us a lot. We should have our D healthy by then except Porter.

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The Cowgirls are horrible. Did you even watch the game against the Packers yesterday. They have ZERO chance of beating us in the dome. The Falcons are falling apart. The Patriots have a shot as do the Panthers IF we have sewn up homefield advantage by then AND they are fighting for a playoff spot.

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actually teams are doing great running against us in the entire game.....the difference is that teams get away from running the ball late in the game

the panthers, falcons, dolphins, and rams should have beaten us and there isnt a single injury on our defense that you could've blamed it on

losing our stud DT and his fellow NT hurt us a lot.....but hargrove and ayodele have arguably outplayed clancy.....i wont say the same about ellis because he is one of my favorite players and its obvious why

our secondary injuries have nothing to do with what we are giving up in the running game.....our loss of fujita last couple games had nothin to do with our run defense the past games....fujita played his game and still didnt help our run defense

injuries hurt us......no doubt.....what i am saying is that we cant blame these issues on our injuries when there are bigger problems

the rams moved the ball at will against our defense and we only beat them because we are better.....truth be told....we got lucky the past couple weeks and we need to improve quickly

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Your wrong. We snuffed out all three running games the past three games in the second half. Steven Jackson couldn't even get a 4th and 1 on us yesterday.

Luck is for losers. We plain BEAT the other teams all year long, including the last couple of weeks.

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u are missing the big picture

our defense has dropped out of the top 10 in defense......because of our run defense

we are currently ranked 19th in pass defense and 20th in run defense.....that is a steep dropoff from how we were playing over the first few games

now i understand the stretch of running backs we've played over the past couple games.....ronnie brown/ricky williams, michael turner, deangello williams/jonathan stewart, steven jackson

but to be honest, we shut down guys like AP, brian westbrook, fred jackson, brandon jacobs, and kevin smith in the past........we should be able to stop the run and we cant

giving up yardage on the ground opens up the other teams offense and allows them to rip apart our secondary later in the game.....by setting up the run they have effectively beaten our defense

the ONLY reason we beat those teams is because of our offense......NOT OUR DEFENSE

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Oh, really?

Did you see Jackson gashing the defense in the 3rd and 4th quarter? No.
Did you see Turner gashing the defense in the 3rd and 4th quarter?No.
Did you see Williams and Stewart gashing the defense in the 3rd and 4th quarter? No.
Did you see Brown and Williams gashing the defense in the 3rd and 4th quarter? No.

And answer me this: why would a team who successfully runs the ball the entire game AND IS AHEAD in the scoreboard, why would that team abandon the run late in the game?