Saints Slip to #2 in Most Power Ratings...

CantonLegend · 11-19-2009, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by gumbeau

First off, the spread is how Vegas gets fools to bet money on both sides of a game.

If there were a clear delineation between football teams then one would expect those who pick games every week to have high percentages of correct picks. We all know that isn't true.

And the importance of injuries to single players in the NFL is further proof of the slim margin between teams.

The Saints lose Sedrick Ellis and the run defense suddenly suffers. Games in the NFL are very often decided by a single mistake. At other levels of football the disparity in teams allows the good teams to make multiple mistakes and still win easily.

If there is such a wide difference in teams I challenge anyone to pick all 13 games this week to prove it. Anything less than 10-3 picking games would be abysmal if there truly is a big difference in teams.

It should be obvious who will win every game.

picking individual games is very difficult

but picking a game like colts vs browns would be very easy

its harder to tell who is better when they are middle of the road teams or both good or both bad.......but when there is an obviously better team, you will find the same situations as you claimed happens in other levels

the colts would blow out the browns in everybody's eyes.....but even if it was close, would you honestly put money on the browns? no.....because they stink and there is a huge difference between the top and the bottom

gumbeau · 11-19-2009, 10:25 AM

There is such a huge difference the top two teams struggled to get wins against an average team (NE) and a terrible team (STL).

And no one picked Tampa over Green Bay.

So pick the games...show me how easy it is to pick the obvious ones. Since you are picking the obvious ones you need to get them all correct.

Here are your games to pick.

Saints - Bucs
Steelers-Chiefs
Cards-Rams
Titans-Texans
Bengals-Raiders
Vikings-Seahawks

Those are all obvious, right? Bat 1.000 and I will concede the point

CantonLegend · 11-19-2009, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by gumbeau

There is such a huge difference the top two teams struggled to get wins against an average team (NE) and a terrible team (STL).

And no one picked Tampa over Green Bay.

So pick the games...show me how easy it is to pick the obvious ones. Since you are picking the obvious ones you need to get them all correct.

Here are your games to pick.

Saints - Bucs
Steelers-Chiefs
Cards-Rams
Titans-Texans
Bengals-Raiders
Vikings-Seahawks

Those are all obvious, right? Bat 1.000 and I will concede the point

done

im curious who you are picking against to prove your point

you are merely trying to elaborate on the phrase "any given sunday"

the truth is that any given sunday some weak team can beat a strong team

but the fact is that it rarely happens and there is absolutely no reason to expect it to happen even if you can point out specific examples.....it is almost always the "favorite" that comes out with a win

View Poll Results: Best Team as of Week 11.
Colts Deserve Top Ranking for a Week by Beating the Pats	25	59.52%
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11-19-2009, 10:14 AM	#41
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Saints Slip to #2 in Most Power Ratings... Originally Posted by gumbeau First off, the spread is how Vegas gets fools to bet money on both sides of a game. If there were a clear delineation between football teams then one would expect those who pick games every week to have high percentages of correct picks. We all know that isn't true. And the importance of injuries to single players in the NFL is further proof of the slim margin between teams. The Saints lose Sedrick Ellis and the run defense suddenly suffers. Games in the NFL are very often decided by a single mistake. At other levels of football the disparity in teams allows the good teams to make multiple mistakes and still win easily. If there is such a wide difference in teams I challenge anyone to pick all 13 games this week to prove it. Anything less than 10-3 picking games would be abysmal if there truly is a big difference in teams. It should be obvious who will win every game. picking individual games is very difficult but picking a game like colts vs browns would be very easy its harder to tell who is better when they are middle of the road teams or both good or both bad.......but when there is an obviously better team, you will find the same situations as you claimed happens in other levels the colts would blow out the browns in everybody's eyes.....but even if it was close, would you honestly put money on the browns? no.....because they stink and there is a huge difference between the top and the bottom
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11-19-2009, 10:25 AM	#42
gumbeau Where Y'at? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 519	Re: Saints Slip to #2 in Most Power Ratings... There is such a huge difference the top two teams struggled to get wins against an average team (NE) and a terrible team (STL). And no one picked Tampa over Green Bay. So pick the games...show me how easy it is to pick the obvious ones. Since you are picking the obvious ones you need to get them all correct. Here are your games to pick. Saints - Bucs Steelers-Chiefs Cards-Rams Titans-Texans Bengals-Raiders Vikings-Seahawks Those are all obvious, right? Bat 1.000 and I will concede the point

11-19-2009, 10:35 AM	#43
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Saints Slip to #2 in Most Power Ratings... Originally Posted by gumbeau There is such a huge difference the top two teams struggled to get wins against an average team (NE) and a terrible team (STL). And no one picked Tampa over Green Bay. So pick the games...show me how easy it is to pick the obvious ones. Since you are picking the obvious ones you need to get them all correct. Here are your games to pick. Saints - Bucs Steelers-Chiefs Cards-Rams Titans-Texans Bengals-Raiders Vikings-Seahawks Those are all obvious, right? Bat 1.000 and I will concede the point done im curious who you are picking against to prove your point you are merely trying to elaborate on the phrase "any given sunday" the truth is that any given sunday some weak team can beat a strong team but the fact is that it rarely happens and there is absolutely no reason to expect it to happen even if you can point out specific examples.....it is almost always the "favorite" that comes out with a win
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