Weakest Position on Team

Belair57 · 11-23-2009, 03:17 PM

Voted DT, but not happy at the DE position, Grant is obsolete in most games and doesnt warrant the money he gets..

Frederick Smith · 11-23-2009, 03:47 PM

Vote FB think we need someone who bust it up for our RB's

neugey · 11-23-2009, 03:53 PM

Voted K because of the Carney/Hartley confusion. Rest of the team has areas where we could improve, but no weak links.

CantonLegend · 11-23-2009, 03:58 PM

OC.

Danno · 11-23-2009, 04:50 PM

I voted DE, but could have voted DT just as easily. OT isn't looking so hot either, especially if Brown doesn't return.

In order

1. DE
2. DT
3. LT
4. OC
5. WLB
6. SLB
7. FS
8. K
9. P
10. FB
11. SS
12. RB

CantonLegend · 11-23-2009, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I voted DE, but could have voted DT just as easily. OT isn't looking so hot either, especially if Brown doesn't return.

In order

1. DE
2. DT
3. LT
4. OC
5. WLB
6. SLB
7. FS
8. K
9. P
10. FB
11. SS
12. RB

why do you think we need DEs?

will smith has 8.5 sacks which is tied for 5th most in the league with robert mathis who is arguably the most complete DE in the league

charles grant is tied with justin tuck and joey porter with 4.5 sacks

combined they have 56 tackles(28 each) 13 sacks and 4 turnovers in 10 games

they are playing pretty well for all the hate they were getting earlier......

and you have them as your biggest need?

why?

D_it_up · 11-23-2009, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

why do you think we need DEs?

will smith has 8.5 sacks which is tied for 5th most in the league with robert mathis who is arguably the most complete DE in the league

charles grant is tied with justin tuck and joey porter with 4.5 sacks

combined they have 56 tackles(28 each) 13 sacks and 4 turnovers in 10 games

they are playing pretty well for all the hate they were getting earlier......

and you have them as your biggest need?

why?

The same question could be directed at you for why OC is our biggest need when Goodwin has done a pretty damn good job.

CantonLegend · 11-24-2009, 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by D_it_up

The same question could be directed at you for why OC is our biggest need when Goodwin has done a pretty damn good job.

goodwin is playing well in between 2 of the best guards in the league

all he has to do is not screw up big time and evans and nicks can usually make him look good

goodwin hasnt gotten better all of a sudden.....but he does have one thing he didnt have the past couple seasons.....a top 10 LG on the other side of a top 3 RG

goodwin is great for depth but seeing as tho its still the easiest position on offense to upgrade and probably our biggest need on offense, i find it easier to explain why OC is our biggest need as opposed to DE

and beyond that.....i know why i want a center.....i dont know why he wanted a DE so bad

Danno · 11-24-2009, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

why do you think we need DEs?

will smith has 8.5 sacks which is tied for 5th most in the league with robert mathis who is arguably the most complete DE in the league

charles grant is tied with justin tuck and joey porter with 4.5 sacks

combined they have 56 tackles(28 each) 13 sacks and 4 turnovers in 10 games

they are playing pretty well for all the hate they were getting earlier......

and you have them as your biggest need?

why?

Charles Grant is not even close to being a high quality DE. If it weren't for Gregg Williams system Charles Grant would still disappear for 3/4 of a season. He also happens to be 31 years old.

Will Smith is having his finest season yet. But I can't ignore the 3 seasons before that. He's adequate to above average. Certainly upgradable.

Neither are even close to being as good as their contacts.

I probably could have put DT above DE but in our system the DE is more important IMO. We have 1 good one, but none great.

saintsfan1976 · 11-24-2009, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Charles Grant is not even close to being a high quality DE. If it weren't for Gregg Williams system Charles Grant would still disappear for 3/4 of a season. He also happens to be 31 years old.

Will Smith is having his finest season yet. But I can't ignore the 3 seasons before that. He's adequate to above average. Certainly upgradable.

Neither are even close to being as good as their contacts.

I probably could have put DT above DE but in our system the DE is more important IMO. We have 1 good one, but none great.

Totally agree on Grant.

And I think Gregg wants to add his prototype DE or OLB to the Saints defense. (see Javon Kearse and Keith Bulluck).

View Poll Results: Weakest Positions
QB	4	6.45%
RB	0	0%
FB	8	12.90%
TE	0	0%
WR	0	0%
OT	5	8.06%
OG	0	0%
OC	6	9.68%
DE	1	1.61%
DT	24	38.71%
OLB	21	33.87%
MLB	0	0%
CB	3	4.84%
FS	2	3.23%
SS	1	1.61%
KR	4	6.45%
PR	7	11.29%
K	5	8.06%
P	0	0%
LS	2	3.23%
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11-23-2009, 03:17 PM	#1
Belair57 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 848	Re: Weakest Position on Team Voted DT, but not happy at the DE position, Grant is obsolete in most games and doesnt warrant the money he gets..
Belair57 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 848

11-23-2009, 03:47 PM	#2
Frederick Smith SaintsFan101 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 217	Re: Weakest Position on Team Vote FB think we need someone who bust it up for our RB's

11-23-2009, 03:53 PM	#3
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,878 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Weakest Position on Team Voted K because of the Carney/Hartley confusion. Rest of the team has areas where we could improve, but no weak links.

11-23-2009, 03:58 PM	#4
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Weakest Position on Team OC.

11-23-2009, 04:50 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Weakest Position on Team I voted DE, but could have voted DT just as easily. OT isn't looking so hot either, especially if Brown doesn't return. In order 1. DE 2. DT 3. LT 4. OC 5. WLB 6. SLB 7. FS 8. K 9. P 10. FB 11. SS 12. RB

11-23-2009, 08:14 PM	#6
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Weakest Position on Team Originally Posted by Danno I voted DE, but could have voted DT just as easily. OT isn't looking so hot either, especially if Brown doesn't return. In order 1. DE 2. DT 3. LT 4. OC 5. WLB 6. SLB 7. FS 8. K 9. P 10. FB 11. SS 12. RB why do you think we need DEs? will smith has 8.5 sacks which is tied for 5th most in the league with robert mathis who is arguably the most complete DE in the league charles grant is tied with justin tuck and joey porter with 4.5 sacks combined they have 56 tackles(28 each) 13 sacks and 4 turnovers in 10 games they are playing pretty well for all the hate they were getting earlier...... and you have them as your biggest need? why?

11-23-2009, 09:14 PM	#7
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Weakest Position on Team Originally Posted by CantonLegend why do you think we need DEs? will smith has 8.5 sacks which is tied for 5th most in the league with robert mathis who is arguably the most complete DE in the league charles grant is tied with justin tuck and joey porter with 4.5 sacks combined they have 56 tackles(28 each) 13 sacks and 4 turnovers in 10 games they are playing pretty well for all the hate they were getting earlier...... and you have them as your biggest need? why? The same question could be directed at you for why OC is our biggest need when Goodwin has done a pretty damn good job.

11-24-2009, 02:51 AM	#8
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Weakest Position on Team Originally Posted by D_it_up The same question could be directed at you for why OC is our biggest need when Goodwin has done a pretty damn good job. goodwin is playing well in between 2 of the best guards in the league all he has to do is not screw up big time and evans and nicks can usually make him look good goodwin hasnt gotten better all of a sudden.....but he does have one thing he didnt have the past couple seasons.....a top 10 LG on the other side of a top 3 RG goodwin is great for depth but seeing as tho its still the easiest position on offense to upgrade and probably our biggest need on offense, i find it easier to explain why OC is our biggest need as opposed to DE and beyond that.....i know why i want a center.....i dont know why he wanted a DE so bad
	"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd

11-24-2009, 07:33 AM	#9
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Weakest Position on Team Originally Posted by CantonLegend why do you think we need DEs? will smith has 8.5 sacks which is tied for 5th most in the league with robert mathis who is arguably the most complete DE in the league charles grant is tied with justin tuck and joey porter with 4.5 sacks combined they have 56 tackles(28 each) 13 sacks and 4 turnovers in 10 games they are playing pretty well for all the hate they were getting earlier...... and you have them as your biggest need? why? Charles Grant is not even close to being a high quality DE. If it weren't for Gregg Williams system Charles Grant would still disappear for 3/4 of a season. He also happens to be 31 years old. Will Smith is having his finest season yet. But I can't ignore the 3 seasons before that. He's adequate to above average. Certainly upgradable. Neither are even close to being as good as their contacts. I probably could have put DT above DE but in our system the DE is more important IMO. We have 1 good one, but none great.

11-24-2009, 07:53 AM	#10
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,051 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Weakest Position on Team Originally Posted by Danno Charles Grant is not even close to being a high quality DE. If it weren't for Gregg Williams system Charles Grant would still disappear for 3/4 of a season. He also happens to be 31 years old. Will Smith is having his finest season yet. But I can't ignore the 3 seasons before that. He's adequate to above average. Certainly upgradable. Neither are even close to being as good as their contacts. I probably could have put DT above DE but in our system the DE is more important IMO. We have 1 good one, but none great. Totally agree on Grant. And I think Gregg wants to add his prototype DE or OLB to the Saints defense. (see Javon Kearse and Keith Bulluck).