Key to victory @ Seattle

BillyCarpenter1 · 09-02-2003, 08:28 AM

I think there are several keys to beating Seattle. To me, the # 1 key has to be getting to the QB. If we allow the QB all day to find an open receiver it's going to be a long day.

The second thing I feel we must do is establish a running game. One that eats up as much of the clock as possible. It will be hard for the Seahawks to score if they don't have the ball.

Of course there are several more things I would like to see happen, but to me, those are the 2 biggest keys for victory.

I also want to see the Saints run effective screen passes and go to the tight end more. Something that would make this offense almost unstoppable.

What does everyone else think??

[Edited on 2/9/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

jared21 · 09-02-2003, 08:43 AM

i definitley agree billy with we have to have an effective pass russ..thats the big key. I think we have to hold alexander to 50-70 yards. I think and i hope i\'m right we should be able to move the ball on seattle ...they have two rookies starting the corners ...we do that and i see a victory.I don\'t know about any of a yall but i CAN\'T WAIT FOR 3:15 SUNDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BigBull45 · 09-02-2003, 08:44 AM

I\'m agree with you Billy ! I wish we still had Ron Zook calling those blitzes,they wouldn\'t have a chance passing the ball.We also need to stop Shaun Alexander.I think we will be fine up front.

On offense I would like to see them utilize the fullback and quarterback running the ball to keep the Seattle defense honest.I would also like to see them run the tight end screen and maybe slip Conwell in at fullback or h back in certain situations.20 to 25 touches for Deuce is a given.

Let\'s hope the coaching staff can be imaginative and keep things fresh.They have talent,it\'s all in the way they utilize it.

tweeky · 09-02-2003, 09:05 AM

This game is of the UTMOST IMPORTANCE.
Seattle is one of those teams that experts feel will compete for a playoff spot.
They could be a 9-7 team with that easy schedule. We must have the tie-breaker on them or they may put us out of the playoffs.

FWtex · 09-02-2003, 10:23 AM

On Def:
DE\'s have to strectch the run outside or force the ball into the middle. They can\'t allow the rb to get around the corner.
Saints will have to stop the screen. look for this when SEA needs ydg.
Saints db\'s will have to make solo tackles. minimize the YAC and make SEA work for every yard.
MLB and bellamy will have to attack the middle of the feild and make this THEIR turf.

on O:
Left tackle will have to open up the hole for deuce. Deuce broke many long runs off the left side last year.
TE must be utilized often to make SEA play the whole field.
must have an effective screen play and use the dump off correctly to keep def on their heels
can\'t have the big penalties that nullify the big plays
#! have to control the clock with time consuming drives to keep def off the field. If the saints score on quick strikes they will lose in a shoot out.

WhoDat · 09-02-2003, 02:16 PM

I\'m really worried about this game even more now. Think about this - Mitchell is out for the season, Rodgers is suspended for the first game, Howard is banged up and doubtful, Grant is at least banged up enough to be questionable, and I believe that Carter is still nagged by tendinitis in his knee. Those guys right there are almost all of our key players on defense. All out or injured - bad news...

2monkeys · 09-02-2003, 03:13 PM

My understanding is they\'ll be missing two OTs to start the season. One is holdout and the other is suspended.

Oops. Right after I said that, I read this: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...len&id=1607673

Looks like Walter Jones had a change in heart.

[Edited on 2/9/2003 by 2monkeys]

MikeHawk · 09-02-2003, 04:03 PM

Hiya guys, nice to see some of you on the Hawks board, thought I would return the favor.

Having Walter could be huge for this team. With Strong blocking expect to see Alexander hit the left side with some success. He hasn\'t been dancing much this preseason and if gets into the secondary expect some good gains.

We don\'t run much outside so look for some quick passes in the flat. Hass has been showing a lot of poise and good instincts avoiding the rush so far. With Walt back it should be harder to get a hand on him, and if you blitz he can def make you pay for it. The offense is basically intact from last year and we look strong at the skills position.

Defense, well we shall see. Trufant will be burned once or twice but from what I have seen he is the real deal. Great closing speed, a sure tackler, just lacking the vetern knowlege. I hope he impresses ya\'all. As for the run, who the heck knows? We seem to be avoiding having players out of position as much this year and the line looks to be playing more as a unit. We haven\'t shown anything but vanilla so far but do expect us to send Brown and Simmons, not a lot, but hopefully enuff to keep you honest. Simmons speed could creat some real problems for you in the backfield, he contained Vick as well as anyone last year.

I am hoping for an emotional lift for my team as we go into the game. Having Walter back is exciting, especially after losing Springs and Terry, even though they have known for quite a while that Terry was gonna be gone. (This seems to explain why we kept so many RB\'s and only 4 WR\'s. Somebody has to block.) It bugs me that that there are over 20k unsold tickets at this point, but a win over the Saints would go a long way to addressing that.

Just the ramblings of a Seahawks fan. Hoping for a good game, and no matter the result may both our teams leave it ALL on the field.

lumm0x · 09-02-2003, 05:58 PM

Left tackle will have to open up the hole for deuce. Deuce broke many long runs off the left side last year.

Just to discredit Kyle Turley a bit, if you look at Deuce\'s long gains from last year off the left side they were mostly off of cutbacks or counters where the key blocks came from the center or guard. Turley was simply steering his end wide of the pocket and his man rarely was involved (or would have been regardless of who was blocking) in the play.

This is why teams fear Deuce so much because he has a definite knack for utilizing cutback lanes and does not always follow the lead blocks.

BillyCarpenter1 · 09-04-2003, 01:10 PM

Just to discredit Kyle Turley a bit, if you look at Deuce\'s long gains from last year off the left side they were mostly off of cutbacks or counters where the key blocks came from the center or guard. Turley was simply steering his end wide of the pocket and his man rarely was involved (or would have been regardless of who was blocking) in the play.

This is why teams fear Deuce so much because he has a definite knack for utilizing cutback lanes and does not always follow the lead blocks.

LummOx -- Very true and a very good point. I always noticed that when Ricky Williams was here that he ran to where ever the run was called to go. Duece on the other hand does cut back and sets his runs up much better. His vision is much better than Rickys. He is also a more patient runner and waits for the blocking to develop.

09-02-2003, 08:28 AM	#1
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Key to victory @ Seattle I think there are several keys to beating Seattle. To me, the # 1 key has to be getting to the QB. If we allow the QB all day to find an open receiver it's going to be a long day. The second thing I feel we must do is establish a running game. One that eats up as much of the clock as possible. It will be hard for the Seahawks to score if they don't have the ball. Of course there are several more things I would like to see happen, but to me, those are the 2 biggest keys for victory. I also want to see the Saints run effective screen passes and go to the tight end more. Something that would make this offense almost unstoppable. What does everyone else think?? [Edited on 2/9/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]
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09-02-2003, 08:43 AM	#2
jared21 Registered Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ARABI Posts: 77	Key to victory @ Seattle i definitley agree billy with we have to have an effective pass russ..thats the big key. I think we have to hold alexander to 50-70 yards. I think and i hope i\'m right we should be able to move the ball on seattle ...they have two rookies starting the corners ...we do that and i see a victory.I don\'t know about any of a yall but i CAN\'T WAIT FOR 3:15 SUNDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

09-02-2003, 08:44 AM	#3
BigBull45 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 128	Key to victory @ Seattle I\'m agree with you Billy ! I wish we still had Ron Zook calling those blitzes,they wouldn\'t have a chance passing the ball.We also need to stop Shaun Alexander.I think we will be fine up front. On offense I would like to see them utilize the fullback and quarterback running the ball to keep the Seattle defense honest.I would also like to see them run the tight end screen and maybe slip Conwell in at fullback or h back in certain situations.20 to 25 touches for Deuce is a given. Let\'s hope the coaching staff can be imaginative and keep things fresh.They have talent,it\'s all in the way they utilize it.
BigBull45 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 128	See yall at the dome on sunday !

09-02-2003, 09:05 AM	#4
tweeky 500th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: South Alabama Posts: 779	Key to victory @ Seattle This game is of the UTMOST IMPORTANCE. Seattle is one of those teams that experts feel will compete for a playoff spot. They could be a 9-7 team with that easy schedule. We must have the tie-breaker on them or they may put us out of the playoffs.

09-02-2003, 10:23 AM	#5
FWtex 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 370	Key to victory @ Seattle On Def: DE\'s have to strectch the run outside or force the ball into the middle. They can\'t allow the rb to get around the corner. Saints will have to stop the screen. look for this when SEA needs ydg. Saints db\'s will have to make solo tackles. minimize the YAC and make SEA work for every yard. MLB and bellamy will have to attack the middle of the feild and make this THEIR turf. on O: Left tackle will have to open up the hole for deuce. Deuce broke many long runs off the left side last year. TE must be utilized often to make SEA play the whole field. must have an effective screen play and use the dump off correctly to keep def on their heels can\'t have the big penalties that nullify the big plays #! have to control the clock with time consuming drives to keep def off the field. If the saints score on quick strikes they will lose in a shoot out.
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WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Key to victory @ Seattle I\'m really worried about this game even more now. Think about this - Mitchell is out for the season, Rodgers is suspended for the first game, Howard is banged up and doubtful, Grant is at least banged up enough to be questionable, and I believe that Carter is still nagged by tendinitis in his knee. Those guys right there are almost all of our key players on defense. All out or injured - bad news...
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09-02-2003, 03:13 PM	#7
2monkeys Rookie Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 13	Key to victory @ Seattle My understanding is they\'ll be missing two OTs to start the season. One is holdout and the other is suspended. Oops. Right after I said that, I read this: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...len&id=1607673 Looks like Walter Jones had a change in heart. [Edited on 2/9/2003 by 2monkeys]
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09-02-2003, 04:03 PM	#8
MikeHawk Rookie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2	Key to victory @ Seattle Hiya guys, nice to see some of you on the Hawks board, thought I would return the favor. Having Walter could be huge for this team. With Strong blocking expect to see Alexander hit the left side with some success. He hasn\'t been dancing much this preseason and if gets into the secondary expect some good gains. We don\'t run much outside so look for some quick passes in the flat. Hass has been showing a lot of poise and good instincts avoiding the rush so far. With Walt back it should be harder to get a hand on him, and if you blitz he can def make you pay for it. The offense is basically intact from last year and we look strong at the skills position. Defense, well we shall see. Trufant will be burned once or twice but from what I have seen he is the real deal. Great closing speed, a sure tackler, just lacking the vetern knowlege. I hope he impresses ya\'all. As for the run, who the heck knows? We seem to be avoiding having players out of position as much this year and the line looks to be playing more as a unit. We haven\'t shown anything but vanilla so far but do expect us to send Brown and Simmons, not a lot, but hopefully enuff to keep you honest. Simmons speed could creat some real problems for you in the backfield, he contained Vick as well as anyone last year. I am hoping for an emotional lift for my team as we go into the game. Having Walter back is exciting, especially after losing Springs and Terry, even though they have known for quite a while that Terry was gonna be gone. (This seems to explain why we kept so many RB\'s and only 4 WR\'s. Somebody has to block.) It bugs me that that there are over 20k unsold tickets at this point, but a win over the Saints would go a long way to addressing that. Just the ramblings of a Seahawks fan. Hoping for a good game, and no matter the result may both our teams leave it ALL on the field.
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09-02-2003, 05:58 PM	#9
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Key to victory @ Seattle Left tackle will have to open up the hole for deuce. Deuce broke many long runs off the left side last year. Just to discredit Kyle Turley a bit, if you look at Deuce\'s long gains from last year off the left side they were mostly off of cutbacks or counters where the key blocks came from the center or guard. Turley was simply steering his end wide of the pocket and his man rarely was involved (or would have been regardless of who was blocking) in the play. This is why teams fear Deuce so much because he has a definite knack for utilizing cutback lanes and does not always follow the lead blocks.

09-04-2003, 01:10 PM	#10
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Key to victory @ Seattle Just to discredit Kyle Turley a bit, if you look at Deuce\'s long gains from last year off the left side they were mostly off of cutbacks or counters where the key blocks came from the center or guard. Turley was simply steering his end wide of the pocket and his man rarely was involved (or would have been regardless of who was blocking) in the play. This is why teams fear Deuce so much because he has a definite knack for utilizing cutback lanes and does not always follow the lead blocks. LummOx -- Very true and a very good point. I always noticed that when Ricky Williams was here that he ran to where ever the run was called to go. Duece on the other hand does cut back and sets his runs up much better. His vision is much better than Rickys. He is also a more patient runner and waits for the blocking to develop.
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