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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Turbo Saint ya know, i really don't understand all of the chargers' fans feelings for rivers. i think he's a whiner and he's an upper-mediocre quarterback. he has good receivers, but still makes plenty of mistakes. i ...
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12-11-2009, 02:34 PM | #21 |
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Re: Would things have been different if...
Originally Posted by Turbo Saint
Every team has their bad seeds. I don't know why you're so bitter but I choose not to lower myself to your standards. If you don't understand why Chargers fans like their QB... than you don't know much about football. All this talk about Rivers being a punk and a whiner just goes to show that you base all of your knowledge around ESPN. They didn't like Rivers because he owns their little darling, Cutler. Well look at Cutler now!!! I have now need for discussions with ignorance. |
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Re: Would things have been different if...
Originally Posted by BOLTS4LIFE
If Eli is average, there are a boatload of below average QBs in the league. But back to the OP, of course things would have been different. Without Brees we would have never had the magical 2006 season and probably still be looking for a franchise QB and not on this unbelieveable undefeated run.
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12-11-2009, 02:44 PM | #23 |
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Re: Would things have been different if...
Originally Posted by Budsdrinker
If his last name was not Manning, do you think he would have been a #1 draft pick? I don't.
If his last name was not Manning, do you think ESPN would still have a hefty man crush on him? I don't. If his last name was not Manning, do you think he would have got Super Bowl MVP with the same stats? I don't? Now for the bigger question... is he better than Brees or Rivers? I say "HELL NO!!!" Like said... the QB situation in San Diego benefited both teams. You know what was really funny? Raiders fans taking smack when Brooks came to their team and ending up at 2-14!!! LOL!!! |
12-11-2009, 03:11 PM | #24 |
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Re: Would things have been different if...
Originally Posted by BOLTS4LIFE
Don't want to get in an argument here but based on Eli's college stats, yes he was worthy of a number 1 pick. On a local level he broke most of Peyton's high school records so yes he was highly recruited. He is in the top 10 in a lot of the SEC records including yards, tds and passer rating. Now with all that said I'm glad we have Brees but back in 2006 if I would have been given a choice (if I could have either one) it would have been tough not taking Eli based on the fact of not knowing how healthy Brees' shoulder would be.
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12-11-2009, 03:30 PM | #25 |
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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker
Well that's a given. Nobody knew if he had anything left after the shoulder injury. Though I can think of many QBs I'd rather have on my team instead of Eli. |
12-11-2009, 03:31 PM | #26 |
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Re: Would things have been different if...
Charger fans are as good about turning a thread into an Eli Manning thread as we are a Brooks thread...
Once Rivers wins you a SB I think you can debate it until then Eli has a ring and you don't. |
12-11-2009, 03:37 PM | #27 |
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Re: Would things have been different if...
Originally Posted by Euphoria
First off... the question was brought up about "where would the Chargers be had they kept Eli." So I answered it. Brees hasn't won you guys a ring either (yet). So does that mean Eli is better than Brees? I don't think so. Trent Dilfer got a ring. Does that mean he's a better QB than Brees, Rivers, McNabb, Moreno, etc? I don't think so. |
12-11-2009, 03:53 PM | #28 |
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Re: Would things have been different if...
I have to say - I think it worked out best for the both the Chargers and the Saints. Saints got one hell of a QB and the Chargers got a franchise QB as well. Might not have the eye popping stats Brees does but the dude does bring game.
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12-11-2009, 04:07 PM | #29 |
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Re: Would things have been different if...
Originally Posted by BOLTS4LIFE
.. but then you post...
Originally Posted by BOLTS4LIFE
You can't have your cake and eat it too, buddy.
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12-11-2009, 04:07 PM | #30 |
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Re: Would things have been different if...
Originally Posted by cargojon
EXACTLY!!! Both teams are more than happy with their QBs and they should be! |