What does 16-0 mean to you?

bobad · 12-13-2009, 09:00 AM

If Payton sits the starters with a game still in doubt, I think the players and fans feel ripped off. I think every player on the team wants to go 19-0. How could any coach take that away from them?

Out of the Saints 400-500 losses, only 1 made me bitter: The loss on Christmas Eve 2006 where we laid down like little b****** for the Panthers. How'd that work out?

SaintFanInATLHELL · 12-13-2009, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by bobad

If Payton sits the starters with a game still in doubt, I think the players and fans feel ripped off. I think every player on the team wants to go 19-0. How could any coach take that away from them?

Brees gets clocked by Julius Peppers in the 4th quarter of a meaningless game in terms of the playoffs and because of severe headaches cannot start the first postseason game.

Yes I know that it could happen today, or happen next week. But in those instances the team is still playing for something relevant to the playoffs. In this instance it's absolutely positively meaningless in terms of getting to the ultimate goal. Also if it happened sooner rather than later, there may still be time to recover.

I would feel both cheated and foolish if something like that happened.

As I have said, let them play enough to be sharp. Look at the preseason. Brees played not at all in the Miami game, the last preseason game. Did he look rusty against the Lions the next week.

What makes you think these guys will forget how to light it up if they take some time off. I don't mean not practice. I don't even mean not to play in the game. But a series or two just to get warmed up should be sufficient to stay sharp.

Out of the Saints 400-500 losses, only 1 made me bitter: The loss on Christmas Eve 2006 where we laid down like little b****** for the Panthers. How'd that work out?

Um, we beat the Eagles after a week off and made it to the NFC championship game? Sounds like a strawman to me.

I'm not saying take all the time off. All I'm saying, and will continue to say, is to be smart about it because the most important thing now is to be healthy for the playoffs.

There is nothing more important than that right now.

Nothing.

SFIAH

bobad · 12-13-2009, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Brees gets clocked by Julius Peppers in the 4th quarter of a meaningless game in terms of the playoffs and because of severe headaches cannot start the first postseason game.

Yes I know that it could happen today, or happen next week. But in those instances the team is still playing for something relevant to the playoffs. In this instance it's absolutely positively meaningless in terms of getting to the ultimate goal. Also if it happened sooner rather than later, there may still be time to recover.

I would feel both cheated and foolish if something like that happened.

As I have said, let them play enough to be sharp. Look at the preseason. Brees played not at all in the Miami game, the last preseason game. Did he look rusty against the Lions the next week.

What makes you think these guys will forget how to light it up if they take some time off. I don't mean not practice. I don't even mean not to play in the game. But a series or two just to get warmed up should be sufficient to stay sharp.

Um, we beat the Eagles after a week off and made it to the NFC championship game? Sounds like a strawman to me.

I'm not saying take all the time off. All I'm saying, and will continue to say, is to be smart about it because the most important thing now is to be healthy for the playoffs.

There is nothing more important than that right now.

Nothing.

SFIAH

Obviously, our priorities are much different.

Mine is to do what we must do to win every game. That's what we have been doing for 13 weeks.

Yours is to win the SB. OK, fine. But I much rather make history while doing it. When history calls, champions don't hide under their beds.

A coach that calls off the dogs and loses the big game will be reviled and criticized forever.

A coach that goes all out to win and loses the big game will be sorry for 1 day.

Not a strawman, buddy. Karma. Teams that lay down on their fans and the integrity of the game get what's coming to them. Strawman my a$$. I don't care how many times you say "um", I know I'm right.

I think every Saints player wants to go all out to win. But they're just a 12-0 team, so what do they know about winning?

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12-13-2009, 09:00 AM	#1
bobad 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 247	Re: What does 16-0 mean to you? If Payton sits the starters with a game still in doubt, I think the players and fans feel ripped off. I think every player on the team wants to go 19-0. How could any coach take that away from them? Out of the Saints 400-500 losses, only 1 made me bitter: The loss on Christmas Eve 2006 where we laid down like little b****** for the Panthers. How'd that work out?
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12-13-2009, 10:14 AM	#2
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,789	Re: What does 16-0 mean to you? Originally Posted by bobad If Payton sits the starters with a game still in doubt, I think the players and fans feel ripped off. I think every player on the team wants to go 19-0. How could any coach take that away from them? Brees gets clocked by Julius Peppers in the 4th quarter of a meaningless game in terms of the playoffs and because of severe headaches cannot start the first postseason game. Yes I know that it could happen today, or happen next week. But in those instances the team is still playing for something relevant to the playoffs. In this instance it's absolutely positively meaningless in terms of getting to the ultimate goal. Also if it happened sooner rather than later, there may still be time to recover. I would feel both cheated and foolish if something like that happened. As I have said, let them play enough to be sharp. Look at the preseason. Brees played not at all in the Miami game, the last preseason game. Did he look rusty against the Lions the next week. What makes you think these guys will forget how to light it up if they take some time off. I don't mean not practice. I don't even mean not to play in the game. But a series or two just to get warmed up should be sufficient to stay sharp. Out of the Saints 400-500 losses, only 1 made me bitter: The loss on Christmas Eve 2006 where we laid down like little b****** for the Panthers. How'd that work out? Um, we beat the Eagles after a week off and made it to the NFC championship game? Sounds like a strawman to me. I'm not saying take all the time off. All I'm saying, and will continue to say, is to be smart about it because the most important thing now is to be healthy for the playoffs. There is nothing more important than that right now. Nothing. SFIAH
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12-13-2009, 10:38 AM	#3
bobad 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 247	Re: What does 16-0 mean to you? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Brees gets clocked by Julius Peppers in the 4th quarter of a meaningless game in terms of the playoffs and because of severe headaches cannot start the first postseason game. Yes I know that it could happen today, or happen next week. But in those instances the team is still playing for something relevant to the playoffs. In this instance it's absolutely positively meaningless in terms of getting to the ultimate goal. Also if it happened sooner rather than later, there may still be time to recover. I would feel both cheated and foolish if something like that happened. As I have said, let them play enough to be sharp. Look at the preseason. Brees played not at all in the Miami game, the last preseason game. Did he look rusty against the Lions the next week. What makes you think these guys will forget how to light it up if they take some time off. I don't mean not practice. I don't even mean not to play in the game. But a series or two just to get warmed up should be sufficient to stay sharp. Um, we beat the Eagles after a week off and made it to the NFC championship game? Sounds like a strawman to me. I'm not saying take all the time off. All I'm saying, and will continue to say, is to be smart about it because the most important thing now is to be healthy for the playoffs. There is nothing more important than that right now. Nothing. SFIAH Obviously, our priorities are much different. Mine is to do what we must do to win every game. That's what we have been doing for 13 weeks. Yours is to win the SB. OK, fine. But I much rather make history while doing it. When history calls, champions don't hide under their beds. A coach that calls off the dogs and loses the big game will be reviled and criticized forever. A coach that goes all out to win and loses the big game will be sorry for 1 day. Not a strawman, buddy. Karma. Teams that lay down on their fans and the integrity of the game get what's coming to them. Strawman my a$$. I don't care how many times you say "um", I know I'm right. I think every Saints player wants to go all out to win. But they're just a 12-0 team, so what do they know about winning?
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