The Fake Field Goal Attempt

spkb25 · 12-13-2009, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Personally, I liked the call. And I thought, had Brunell thrown the ball sooner, we would have gotten an easy first down.

Luckily, we were able to get a turnover, but the way our D played all game that call could have cost us the game.

So, what do you think? Was it a good call or bad one?

Agree, and truthfully said it in the chat earlier. Some peeps thought I was nuts, but the way the D played I did not feel safe. I liked it, and it was there. Bad read by the old man

papz · 12-13-2009, 09:52 PM

I liked the call... it was a first down/touchdown had Brunell not been so hesitant. Prior to the field goal unit coming out, I actually wanted us to go for it... so a fake FG didn't bother me at all.

Tobias-Reiper · 12-13-2009, 10:46 PM

hhhmmmm...
fake field goal with Brunell attempting to throw a pass to a guard, vs Brees under center throwing to Colston, or Meachem, or Devery, or Thomas, or Shockey...

I don't think so, no...

eleazar · 12-14-2009, 12:04 AM

I didn't like it, but then again, I didn't like the fact that we were throwing before the 2 minute warning.

2nd down - I think that if we run the ball, we either make the first, or bring the game down the the 2 minute warning, run another play and if we don't make the first we can kick a field goal to go up by 6 leaving them 1:30ish to drive the field.

SmashMouth · 12-14-2009, 06:09 AM

At first, I disliked the call. But after thinking about it, it was the right call. If we make it and execute it right, we possibly score a TD. If we miss, which we did, it backs up the opponent and they have to go 90 yards for a TD and face a furious pass rush!

darstep · 12-14-2009, 08:22 AM

For most calls like that one, when you execute it and pull it off, you are a hero. We didn't execute it and lived to tell about it. Even if Dinkns had managed to keep both feet inbounds, he was still short of the 1st down marker. Had Brunell tossed it to the tackle-eligable/receiver Nicks, his hands looked like boxing gloves they were so wrapped up; you couldn't even see fingers. That's what we get with Sean Payton - its exciting football and I love it. He mixes it up and it works well into our diverse offense. Skins game: they call timeout to freeze the kicker - Payton sends the offense back out and continues to push down the field: I loved it! Great call then, good call ysterday to go for it. Just don't dip the well dry.

xan · 12-14-2009, 08:35 AM

Exactly Scotty, why the hell were we passing the ball if we were trying to make it hard on the Falcons? It would have been one thing if the offense ran 2 more times (forcing all ATL timeouts), getting 4 yards and it were 4th and 3 at the Clowns' 11 - and JEEEZ the freaking 11! and still tried that fake because the odds of making 4th and 3 is 70% better than 4th and 7. But damn, why risk letting them go downfield, tying the game and forcing overtime where we risk losing + injury due to fatigue.

Ridiculous.

Budsdrinker · 12-14-2009, 09:14 AM

I didn't have a problem with the call but a problem with the personnel used in the call. Instead of Nicks going deep how about another TE. Atlanta was selling out for the block and a TE is faster than Nicks and more reliable pass receiver which would have given Brunell the confidence to throw the ball down field.

neugey · 12-14-2009, 09:24 AM

You could see that we caught the Falcons off guard and it almost worked. If Dinkins runs that route a little deeper we probably get a first down and run out the clock. I think that's why Brunell hesitated to throw it. Dinkins is just not as solid as a receiver, hypothetically I think David Thomas or Billy Miller gets us that first down.

SmashMouth · 12-15-2009, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

You could see that we caught the Falcons off guard and it almost worked. If Dinkins runs that route a little deeper we probably get a first down and run out the clock. I think that's why Brunell hesitated to throw it. Dinkins is just not as solid as a receiver, hypothetically I think David Thomas or Billy Miller gets us that first down.

Actually Dinkins was wide open ... and probably for a TD too! The problem here was that Brunell did not see it quick enough and Dinkins got "unopen". We needed the quick strike thinking of Brees on that play! That brings to mind, why not have Brees hold on certain kicking plays?

12-13-2009, 09:50 PM	#1
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,123	Re: The Fake Field Goal Attempt Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Personally, I liked the call. And I thought, had Brunell thrown the ball sooner, we would have gotten an easy first down. Luckily, we were able to get a turnover, but the way our D played all game that call could have cost us the game. So, what do you think? Was it a good call or bad one? Agree, and truthfully said it in the chat earlier. Some peeps thought I was nuts, but the way the D played I did not feel safe. I liked it, and it was there. Bad read by the old man

12-13-2009, 09:52 PM	#2
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,774	Re: The Fake Field Goal Attempt I liked the call... it was a first down/touchdown had Brunell not been so hesitant. Prior to the field goal unit coming out, I actually wanted us to go for it... so a fake FG didn't bother me at all.

12-13-2009, 10:46 PM	#3
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: The Fake Field Goal Attempt hhhmmmm... fake field goal with Brunell attempting to throw a pass to a guard, vs Brees under center throwing to Colston, or Meachem, or Devery, or Thomas, or Shockey... I don't think so, no...

12-14-2009, 12:04 AM	#4
eleazar Rookie Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Denton, TX via NOLA Posts: 13	Re: The Fake Field Goal Attempt I didn't like it, but then again, I didn't like the fact that we were throwing before the 2 minute warning. 2nd down - I think that if we run the ball, we either make the first, or bring the game down the the 2 minute warning, run another play and if we don't make the first we can kick a field goal to go up by 6 leaving them 1:30ish to drive the field.

12-14-2009, 06:09 AM	#5
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,553 Blog Entries: 29	Re: The Fake Field Goal Attempt At first, I disliked the call. But after thinking about it, it was the right call. If we make it and execute it right, we possibly score a TD. If we miss, which we did, it backs up the opponent and they have to go 90 yards for a TD and face a furious pass rush!

12-14-2009, 08:22 AM	#6
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: The Fake Field Goal Attempt For most calls like that one, when you execute it and pull it off, you are a hero. We didn't execute it and lived to tell about it. Even if Dinkns had managed to keep both feet inbounds, he was still short of the 1st down marker. Had Brunell tossed it to the tackle-eligable/receiver Nicks, his hands looked like boxing gloves they were so wrapped up; you couldn't even see fingers. That's what we get with Sean Payton - its exciting football and I love it. He mixes it up and it works well into our diverse offense. Skins game: they call timeout to freeze the kicker - Payton sends the offense back out and continues to push down the field: I loved it! Great call then, good call ysterday to go for it. Just don't dip the well dry.
	SaintSince67 Last edited by darstep; 12-14-2009 at 08:24 AM..

12-14-2009, 08:35 AM	#7
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,372 Blog Entries: 34	Re: The Fake Field Goal Attempt Exactly Scotty, why the hell were we passing the ball if we were trying to make it hard on the Falcons? It would have been one thing if the offense ran 2 more times (forcing all ATL timeouts), getting 4 yards and it were 4th and 3 at the Clowns' 11 - and JEEEZ the freaking 11! and still tried that fake because the odds of making 4th and 3 is 70% better than 4th and 7. But damn, why risk letting them go downfield, tying the game and forcing overtime where we risk losing + injury due to fatigue. Ridiculous.

12-14-2009, 09:14 AM	#8
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: The Fake Field Goal Attempt I didn't have a problem with the call but a problem with the personnel used in the call. Instead of Nicks going deep how about another TE. Atlanta was selling out for the block and a TE is faster than Nicks and more reliable pass receiver which would have given Brunell the confidence to throw the ball down field.

12-14-2009, 09:24 AM	#9
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,834 Blog Entries: 13	Re: The Fake Field Goal Attempt You could see that we caught the Falcons off guard and it almost worked. If Dinkins runs that route a little deeper we probably get a first down and run out the clock. I think that's why Brunell hesitated to throw it. Dinkins is just not as solid as a receiver, hypothetically I think David Thomas or Billy Miller gets us that first down.

12-15-2009, 06:54 AM	#10
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,553 Blog Entries: 29	Re: The Fake Field Goal Attempt Originally Posted by neugey You could see that we caught the Falcons off guard and it almost worked. If Dinkins runs that route a little deeper we probably get a first down and run out the clock. I think that's why Brunell hesitated to throw it. Dinkins is just not as solid as a receiver, hypothetically I think David Thomas or Billy Miller gets us that first down. Actually Dinkins was wide open ... and probably for a TD too! The problem here was that Brunell did not see it quick enough and Dinkins got "unopen". We needed the quick strike thinking of Brees on that play! That brings to mind, why not have Brees hold on certain kicking plays?