The Fake Field Goal Attempt

saintsfan1976 · 12-13-2009, 09:36 PM

Personally, I liked the call. And I thought, had Brunell thrown the ball sooner, we would have gotten an easy first down.

Luckily, we were able to get a turnover, but the way our D played all game that call could have cost us the game.

So, what do you think? Was it a good call or bad one?

CantonLegend · 12-13-2009, 09:38 PM

the real issue was the missed PAT

if we had made that extra point then we would've been up 4 at that point in the game

we could've kicked the FG and been up 7 instead of 3(or 6 if we kicked the FG)

IMO 4th down is for 1 thing.....kicking.....you kick the ball on 4th down.....thats the beauty of having 4 downs instead of 3 like canadian football

3 downs to get a first down and then 4th down to either kick a field goal or punt the ball

im very rarely a fan of going for it unless the game is on the line

terrible call IMO

Fleured · 12-14-2009, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

the real issue was the missed PAT

anyone thinking that the coaching staff may be looking at Leigh Tinnis from Alabama?

SmashMouth · 12-14-2009, 06:10 AM

Originally Posted by Fleured

anyone thinking that the coaching staff may be looking at Leigh Tinnis from Alabama?

He does look good..... is his leg strong for out-of-the-endzone kick-offs?

ScottF · 12-14-2009, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

He does look good..... is his leg strong for out-of-the-endzone kick-offs?

I didn't mind the call, but I hated the 2 plays before it. Why were we throwing?

FrenzyFan · 12-14-2009, 08:52 AM

I didn't like the call. Our kicking game has been suspect for a while, but the percentages were still pretty good that we'd go up by six if we kicked it. That makes Atlanta have to drive for a TD in the two minute drill. I like those odds with Redman. He was tearing us up all day, but he was never under any pressure. Having to score a TD or lose would have unravelled him, I think.

It we make the kick, Hartley gets some experience at pressure-kicking. If we miss the kick, it may tell us we need to look a different way or change our game plan during the playoffs. Of course, maybe in practice the coaches already know he doesn't make that kick - I heard he was having trouble in the pre-game warmups and he DID miss the PAT. If it's that big a problem, we need to go another way NOW. The kicking game is too important in the playoffs.

The entire design of that fake was not exactly genius. Brunell is the best player that has a part in that play, and I don't exactly think of him as "good" any more. Dinkins is a blocking TE and it showed since his route was short of the first down marker. His hands are suspect but I'll give him credit for hauling it in. Of course, he doesn't establish himself on the sideline so its a wash. A pass catching TE does all three things well (route, catch, two-feet-in). The other receiver was Nicks. What are the chances that play works even without the hesitation?

Bad call in my opinion.

Sir Psycho Sexy · 12-14-2009, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by Fleured

anyone thinking that the coaching staff may be looking at Leigh Tinnis from Alabama?

Jeebus I hope not! I'll be so glad to see Tiffin gone next year. Guy from straight ahead is money but if it's an angled kick, he always hooks wide.

MorningWood · 12-13-2009, 09:38 PM

I would have preferred to kick a FG and forced them to get in the end zone.

the-commish · 12-14-2009, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by morningwood

i would have preferred to kick a fg and forced them to get in the end zone.

ditto!

Turbo Saint · 12-13-2009, 09:40 PM

i thought it was fine...but our game wasn't totally on today so i dunno. either way, i never got TOOOOO nervous during the game except when reggie was on the field so i guess it was a good game.

12-13-2009, 09:36 PM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,972 Blog Entries: 3	The Fake Field Goal Attempt Personally, I liked the call. And I thought, had Brunell thrown the ball sooner, we would have gotten an easy first down. Luckily, we were able to get a turnover, but the way our D played all game that call could have cost us the game. So, what do you think? Was it a good call or bad one?

12-13-2009, 09:38 PM	#2
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: The Fake Field Goal Attempt the real issue was the missed PAT if we had made that extra point then we would've been up 4 at that point in the game we could've kicked the FG and been up 7 instead of 3(or 6 if we kicked the FG) IMO 4th down is for 1 thing.....kicking.....you kick the ball on 4th down.....thats the beauty of having 4 downs instead of 3 like canadian football 3 downs to get a first down and then 4th down to either kick a field goal or punt the ball im very rarely a fan of going for it unless the game is on the line terrible call IMO
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12-14-2009, 05:38 AM	#3
Fleured The NY Geaux Getter Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 348	Re: The Fake Field Goal Attempt Originally Posted by CantonLegend the real issue was the missed PAT anyone thinking that the coaching staff may be looking at Leigh Tinnis from Alabama?

12-14-2009, 06:10 AM	#4
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,479 Blog Entries: 29	Re: The Fake Field Goal Attempt Originally Posted by Fleured anyone thinking that the coaching staff may be looking at Leigh Tinnis from Alabama? He does look good..... is his leg strong for out-of-the-endzone kick-offs?

12-14-2009, 08:14 AM	#5
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: The Fake Field Goal Attempt Originally Posted by SmashMouth He does look good..... is his leg strong for out-of-the-endzone kick-offs? I didn't mind the call, but I hated the 2 plays before it. Why were we throwing?

12-14-2009, 08:52 AM	#6
FrenzyFan 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 406	Re: The Fake Field Goal Attempt I didn't like the call. Our kicking game has been suspect for a while, but the percentages were still pretty good that we'd go up by six if we kicked it. That makes Atlanta have to drive for a TD in the two minute drill. I like those odds with Redman. He was tearing us up all day, but he was never under any pressure. Having to score a TD or lose would have unravelled him, I think. It we make the kick, Hartley gets some experience at pressure-kicking. If we miss the kick, it may tell us we need to look a different way or change our game plan during the playoffs. Of course, maybe in practice the coaches already know he doesn't make that kick - I heard he was having trouble in the pre-game warmups and he DID miss the PAT. If it's that big a problem, we need to go another way NOW. The kicking game is too important in the playoffs. The entire design of that fake was not exactly genius. Brunell is the best player that has a part in that play, and I don't exactly think of him as "good" any more. Dinkins is a blocking TE and it showed since his route was short of the first down marker. His hands are suspect but I'll give him credit for hauling it in. Of course, he doesn't establish himself on the sideline so its a wash. A pass catching TE does all three things well (route, catch, two-feet-in). The other receiver was Nicks. What are the chances that play works even without the hesitation? Bad call in my opinion.
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Sir Psycho Sexy Moderator Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA - Behind enemy lines. Someone throw me a grenade!! Posts: 941	Re: The Fake Field Goal Attempt Originally Posted by Fleured anyone thinking that the coaching staff may be looking at Leigh Tinnis from Alabama? Jeebus I hope not! I'll be so glad to see Tiffin gone next year. Guy from straight ahead is money but if it's an angled kick, he always hooks wide.

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12-13-2009, 09:40 PM	#10
Turbo Saint SoCal Saint Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: OB - San Diego, CA Posts: 726	Re: The Fake Field Goal Attempt i thought it was fine...but our game wasn't totally on today so i dunno. either way, i never got TOOOOO nervous during the game except when reggie was on the field so i guess it was a good game.