Good luck Sunday from Seattle

largentslovechild · 09-05-2003, 01:21 AM

This is what I see as far as the Saints matching up agains the hawks.

1. Saints D-line vs. Seattle O -line: Advantage Saints.

2. Saints O-line vs. Seattle D-line: Advantage Saints.

3. Saints receivers vs. Seattle secondary: Advantage Saints.

4. Saints specal teams vs. Seattle special teams: Advantage Saints.

5. Duece vs. Shawn Alexendar: Advantage Duece.

6. Brooks vs. Hasslebeck: Push. But if Brooks runs...Advantage Brooks.

7. Saints secondary vs. Seattle receivers: Advantage Seattle.

8. Saints defense vs. Seattle defense: Push.

9. Saints offense vs. Seattle offense: Advantage Saints.

[Edited on 4/9/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

first off all half of your \"comparisons\" are apples to oranges. So how exactly is that a fair determination of who will win? It\'s not. Deuce vs. Shaun? How does that work? Maybe Deuce vs. Seattle Run D is what you ment? Adv: Deuce btw

Anywho, I\'ll play this game..and as I see it I have a few remarks...

1. Saints D-line vs. Seattle O -line: Advantage Saints.

How\'s that? Our left side of the line is arguably the best in the NFL. With WJ back it moves Womack back over to the RT (which in turn makes our right side better....) and when Terry arrives game 5 Womack moves back to his natural RG.

5. Duece vs. Shawn Alexendar: Advantage Duece.

Again, this doesn\'t even seem relevant...however this is a push. Sorry. It really is. Go check the stats from last season.

9. Saints offense vs. Seattle offense: Advantage Saints.

You\'re kidding right? This has GOT to be a push as well.

[Edited on 5/9/2003 by largentslovechild]

BillyCarpenter1 · 09-05-2003, 05:36 AM

Largent -- Welcome. I always enjoy talkng to rival fans. I think you will enjoy your stay here. I\'ll try to make it a comfortable as I can for you..

Anyway, here\'s the answer to your questions.

first off all half of your \"comparisons\" are apples to oranges. So how exactly is that a fair determination of who will win? It\'s not. Deuce vs. Shaun? How does that work? Maybe Deuce vs. Seattle Run D is what you ment? Adv: Deuce btw

I made the comparisions not becuase Duece will be competing against Shaun but for the same reason NFL.com compares all the running backs.

1. Saints D-line vs. Seattle O -line: Advantage Saints.

How\'s that? Our left side of the line is arguably the best in the NFL. With WJ back it moves Womack back over to the RT (which in turn makes our right side better....) and when Terry arrives game 5 Womack moves back to his natural R

Unfortunately for you and the Seahawks the right side of the O-line has to play also and your right tackle is suspended -- Advantage Saints.

5. Duece vs. Shawn Alexendar: Advantage Duece.

Again, this doesn\'t even seem relevant...however this is a push. Sorry. It really is. Go check the stats from last season

I check the stats and Duece rushed for more yards. Duece put up more yards and he missed one game and was hurt in the last 4 games. Advantage - Duece.

9. Saints offense vs. Seattle offense: Advantage Saints.

You\'re kidding right? This has GOT to be a push as well.

Nope, I\'m serious as a heart attack. While the Seahawks offense put up some nice numbers -- they play in a weak division and did it against weak teams. The Saints on the other hand play in argueably the toughest division in the NFL.

largentslovechild · 09-05-2003, 10:55 AM

I made the comparisions not becuase Duece will be competing against Shaun but for the same reason NFL.com compares all the running backs.

well then that\'s not a relevant arguement. compare parts all you want, you won\'t truly find the real difference.

Unfortunately for you and the Seahawks the right side of the O-line has to play also and your right tackle is suspended -- Advantage Saints.

Lemme know if your defensive ends miraculously start on Sunday.

I check the stats and Duece rushed for more yards. Duece put up more yards and he missed one game and was hurt in the last 4 games. Advantage - Duece.

Don\'t forget about putting it in the endzone.
Alexander scored 2 more TDs. I think that pushes your 1740 to 1635 yard comparison, even including the one game missed. 116 yard average..1856. It\'s close. It\'s a push. It\'s definitely not an advantage. And I think I\'d be surprised if the majority of your saints fans agreed with you.

9. Saints offense vs. Seattle offense: Advantage Saints.

Nope, I\'m serious as a heart attack. While the Seahawks offense put up some nice numbers -- they play in a weak division and did it against weak teams. The Saints on the other hand play in argueably the toughest division in the NFL.

LOL the NFC WEST is a WEAK division?

See ya sunday. Bring your hats.

BlackandBlue · 09-05-2003, 12:00 PM

And I think I\'d be surprised if the majority of your saints fans agreed with you.

We can hardly agree with each other, you think we\'d actually have the capabilities to agree with a fan of another team??? :P While I will agree that the Saints have an overall better offense than the Seahawks (and it ain\'t by much), our defense is not as good as Seattle\'s. And running back is a push, Deuce and Shaun are both poised to have stellar seasons.
Comparitively speaking, the NFC West is weak, maybe not as weak as the North, but weaker than the South and East. The only competition you guys have is St. Louis, San Francisco does not have a good defense or head coach, and I think we can all agree that until things are shaken up in the desert, Arizona will continue to draft great players, only to see them hit their prime with other teams.

BillyCarpenter1 · 09-05-2003, 12:03 PM

Largent -- I think Shaun is a very good back. I just feel Duece is better. The stats are close. However, the NFC west is a weak division compared to the NFC South. The 49\'ers are the only team to come out of the west with a winning record. Also, look at the defensive ranking against the run in the NFC south compared to the NFC west. You might dismiss this, but I think it is highly relevant. But if you want to look only at stats -- it would appear to be a push.

I know Grant is going to play and Howard said he was. We\'ll see. I do know your right tackle isn\'t going to play and that\'s a fact.

I only wished we played in the NFC West. Try playing the Bucs and Panthers defense twice per yea. The Falcons defense ain\'t bad either.

I got my hat.... :P

[Edited on 5/9/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

Hawk03Fan · 09-05-2003, 04:53 PM

Hawks - 31
Saints - 27

The Saints fans are a little bummed, but they end up having a fantastic year - because the members of the board finally get together and (accidentally kill him while trying to pry his overblown head out of his with a 9\' crowbar). And the world rejoices.

That boy is an , though the rest of the people actually seem polite and knowledgeable.

WhoDat should be sticking a hot pocker in that idiots .

If you can\'t be nice don\'t be at all!

[Edited on 5/9/2003 by JOESAM2002]

tweeky · 09-05-2003, 05:01 PM

That boy is an obnoxious pitiable excuse for a fool, though the rest of the people actually seem polite and knowledgeable.
WhoDat should be sticking a hot pocker in that idiots ass.

He might be a BillyCarpenter, but he\'s our BillyCarpenter...
He may be obnoxious, but he\'s certainly not pitiable...
He\'ll back up what he says ALL day long, right or wrong (we know, he\'s actually done it).

BTW: Whats a pocker?

saint5221 · 09-05-2003, 05:17 PM

That boy is an obnoxious pitiable excuse for a fool, though the rest of the people actually seem polite and knowledgeable.

Funny I was just thinking the same thing about you(obnoxious pitiable excuse for a fool) and the rest of the hawks fans( polite and knowledgeable) with whom I have had no problems discussing the game . Well there is always one.

If anyone here want\'s to talk football with real Hawks fans here is the link, http://seahawks.net/phpBB/phpBB2/index.php they have been great willing to talk , listen and disagree with out sounding like this.

[Edited on 9/5/2003 by saint5221]

JOESAM2002 · 09-05-2003, 05:24 PM

Maybe he meant a hot pocket. You know like the food? Mr. Hawkfan03, don\'t come in here spewing that crap. I don\'t allow it from the members and I sure as hell ain\'t going to allow it from you. Be nice or be gone!

[Edited on 5/9/2003 by JOESAM2002]

JOESAM2002 · 09-05-2003, 05:33 PM

Just a short message to most of you Seahawks fans visiting our board. Thank you for showing such class and being the great fans I\'m sure you are to your team. Most of you guys are welcome back anytime. All are welcome back if they can show the class most of you did. Again thank you.

P.S. You do know we\'re still going to whip ya\'ll azzzzzzzz! LOL

09-05-2003, 01:21 AM	#21
largentslovechild Rookie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 8	Good luck Sunday from Seattle This is what I see as far as the Saints matching up agains the hawks. 1. Saints D-line vs. Seattle O -line: Advantage Saints. 2. Saints O-line vs. Seattle D-line: Advantage Saints. 3. Saints receivers vs. Seattle secondary: Advantage Saints. 4. Saints specal teams vs. Seattle special teams: Advantage Saints. 5. Duece vs. Shawn Alexendar: Advantage Duece. 6. Brooks vs. Hasslebeck: Push. But if Brooks runs...Advantage Brooks. 7. Saints secondary vs. Seattle receivers: Advantage Seattle. 8. Saints defense vs. Seattle defense: Push. 9. Saints offense vs. Seattle offense: Advantage Saints. [Edited on 4/9/2003 by BillyCarpenter1] first off all half of your \"comparisons\" are apples to oranges. So how exactly is that a fair determination of who will win? It\'s not. Deuce vs. Shaun? How does that work? Maybe Deuce vs. Seattle Run D is what you ment? Adv: Deuce btw Anywho, I\'ll play this game..and as I see it I have a few remarks... 1. Saints D-line vs. Seattle O -line: Advantage Saints. How\'s that? Our left side of the line is arguably the best in the NFL. With WJ back it moves Womack back over to the RT (which in turn makes our right side better....) and when Terry arrives game 5 Womack moves back to his natural RG. 5. Duece vs. Shawn Alexendar: Advantage Duece. Again, this doesn\'t even seem relevant...however this is a push. Sorry. It really is. Go check the stats from last season. 9. Saints offense vs. Seattle offense: Advantage Saints. You\'re kidding right? This has GOT to be a push as well. [Edited on 5/9/2003 by largentslovechild]
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09-05-2003, 05:36 AM	#22
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Good luck Sunday from Seattle Largent -- Welcome. I always enjoy talkng to rival fans. I think you will enjoy your stay here. I\'ll try to make it a comfortable as I can for you.. Anyway, here\'s the answer to your questions. first off all half of your \"comparisons\" are apples to oranges. So how exactly is that a fair determination of who will win? It\'s not. Deuce vs. Shaun? How does that work? Maybe Deuce vs. Seattle Run D is what you ment? Adv: Deuce btw I made the comparisions not becuase Duece will be competing against Shaun but for the same reason NFL.com compares all the running backs. 1. Saints D-line vs. Seattle O -line: Advantage Saints. How\'s that? Our left side of the line is arguably the best in the NFL. With WJ back it moves Womack back over to the RT (which in turn makes our right side better....) and when Terry arrives game 5 Womack moves back to his natural R Unfortunately for you and the Seahawks the right side of the O-line has to play also and your right tackle is suspended -- Advantage Saints. 5. Duece vs. Shawn Alexendar: Advantage Duece. Again, this doesn\'t even seem relevant...however this is a push. Sorry. It really is. Go check the stats from last season I check the stats and Duece rushed for more yards. Duece put up more yards and he missed one game and was hurt in the last 4 games. Advantage - Duece. 9. Saints offense vs. Seattle offense: Advantage Saints. You\'re kidding right? This has GOT to be a push as well. Nope, I\'m serious as a heart attack. While the Seahawks offense put up some nice numbers -- they play in a weak division and did it against weak teams. The Saints on the other hand play in argueably the toughest division in the NFL.
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09-05-2003, 10:55 AM	#23
largentslovechild Rookie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 8	Good luck Sunday from Seattle I made the comparisions not becuase Duece will be competing against Shaun but for the same reason NFL.com compares all the running backs. well then that\'s not a relevant arguement. compare parts all you want, you won\'t truly find the real difference. Unfortunately for you and the Seahawks the right side of the O-line has to play also and your right tackle is suspended -- Advantage Saints. Lemme know if your defensive ends miraculously start on Sunday. I check the stats and Duece rushed for more yards. Duece put up more yards and he missed one game and was hurt in the last 4 games. Advantage - Duece. Don\'t forget about putting it in the endzone. Alexander scored 2 more TDs. I think that pushes your 1740 to 1635 yard comparison, even including the one game missed. 116 yard average..1856. It\'s close. It\'s a push. It\'s definitely not an advantage. And I think I\'d be surprised if the majority of your saints fans agreed with you. 9. Saints offense vs. Seattle offense: Advantage Saints. Nope, I\'m serious as a heart attack. While the Seahawks offense put up some nice numbers -- they play in a weak division and did it against weak teams. The Saints on the other hand play in argueably the toughest division in the NFL. LOL the NFC WEST is a WEAK division? See ya sunday. Bring your hats.
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09-05-2003, 12:00 PM	#24
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Good luck Sunday from Seattle And I think I\'d be surprised if the majority of your saints fans agreed with you. We can hardly agree with each other, you think we\'d actually have the capabilities to agree with a fan of another team??? :P While I will agree that the Saints have an overall better offense than the Seahawks (and it ain\'t by much), our defense is not as good as Seattle\'s. And running back is a push, Deuce and Shaun are both poised to have stellar seasons. Comparitively speaking, the NFC West is weak, maybe not as weak as the North, but weaker than the South and East. The only competition you guys have is St. Louis, San Francisco does not have a good defense or head coach, and I think we can all agree that until things are shaken up in the desert, Arizona will continue to draft great players, only to see them hit their prime with other teams.
	The waiting drove me mad.... I don't want to hear from those that know... Everything has changed, absolutely nothing's changed Eddie is a....draftnik?

09-05-2003, 12:03 PM	#25
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Good luck Sunday from Seattle Largent -- I think Shaun is a very good back. I just feel Duece is better. The stats are close. However, the NFC west is a weak division compared to the NFC South. The 49\'ers are the only team to come out of the west with a winning record. Also, look at the defensive ranking against the run in the NFC south compared to the NFC west. You might dismiss this, but I think it is highly relevant. But if you want to look only at stats -- it would appear to be a push. I know Grant is going to play and Howard said he was. We\'ll see. I do know your right tackle isn\'t going to play and that\'s a fact. I only wished we played in the NFC West. Try playing the Bucs and Panthers defense twice per yea. The Falcons defense ain\'t bad either. I got my hat.... :P [Edited on 5/9/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]
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Hawk03Fan Rookie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2	Good luck Sunday from Seattle Hawks - 31 Saints - 27 The Saints fans are a little bummed, but they end up having a fantastic year - because the members of the board finally get together and (accidentally kill him while trying to pry his overblown head out of his with a 9\' crowbar). And the world rejoices. That boy is an , though the rest of the people actually seem polite and knowledgeable. WhoDat should be sticking a hot pocker in that idiots . If you can\'t be nice don\'t be at all! [Edited on 5/9/2003 by JOESAM2002]
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09-05-2003, 05:01 PM	#27
tweeky 500th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: South Alabama Posts: 779	Good luck Sunday from Seattle That boy is an obnoxious pitiable excuse for a fool, though the rest of the people actually seem polite and knowledgeable. WhoDat should be sticking a hot pocker in that idiots ass. He might be a BillyCarpenter, but he\'s our BillyCarpenter... He may be obnoxious, but he\'s certainly not pitiable... He\'ll back up what he says ALL day long, right or wrong (we know, he\'s actually done it). BTW: Whats a pocker?

09-05-2003, 05:17 PM	#28
saint5221 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 598	Good luck Sunday from Seattle That boy is an obnoxious pitiable excuse for a fool, though the rest of the people actually seem polite and knowledgeable. Funny I was just thinking the same thing about you(obnoxious pitiable excuse for a fool) and the rest of the hawks fans( polite and knowledgeable) with whom I have had no problems discussing the game . Well there is always one. If anyone here want\'s to talk football with real Hawks fans here is the link, http://seahawks.net/phpBB/phpBB2/index.php they have been great willing to talk , listen and disagree with out sounding like this. [Edited on 9/5/2003 by saint5221]
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09-05-2003, 05:24 PM	#29
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Good luck Sunday from Seattle Maybe he meant a hot pocket. You know like the food? Mr. Hawkfan03, don\'t come in here spewing that crap. I don\'t allow it from the members and I sure as hell ain\'t going to allow it from you. Be nice or be gone! [Edited on 5/9/2003 by JOESAM2002]

09-05-2003, 05:33 PM	#30
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Good luck Sunday from Seattle Just a short message to most of you Seahawks fans visiting our board. Thank you for showing such class and being the great fans I\'m sure you are to your team. Most of you guys are welcome back anytime. All are welcome back if they can show the class most of you did. Again thank you. P.S. You do know we\'re still going to whip ya\'ll azzzzzzzz! LOL