Cowboys 24 Saints 17 where was the breakdown for the Saints?
 

Which area of the game was the breakdown in the loss to the Cowboys? Answer the poll and give your thoughts.

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Every area of the team...and coaching

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Top to bottom loss.
Of course, we were also 2 plays from winning the game.

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I said mostly defensive line, offensive line, can't exactly blame Drew because the o-line was crushed and both fumbles happened because he was on his butt.

AND Coaching. The team looked totally unprepared. I'm sorry but all the crowd noise and home field advantage wasn't going to help us get over the hump.

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Surprising how badly the OLine played .. and we've played better Dlines too. But like CL said in another thread, we needed to run more and stay committed. I thought Strief was playing LT now. Surprised to see Bushrod getting beat like a drum. Anyway you slice it, major suckage in most phases of the game!

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I think we were beat up everywhere but it was still a game we coulda won. We knew we had personnel problems particularly on defence against a team that knew how to pass or rush. However we pretty well messed up on offence due to offensive line getting absolutely undone. That caused all our offensive problems with Brees get plastered and then forced into 3 errors too many. Big time errors when you consider Dallas only one by ONE score.

That's my take.

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Like others have said, it was a lot of things. The lines, the QB, D-backs, playcalling...almost everything was off (running backs did okay). Just got completely outplayed for three quarters, but didn't give up and almost came back at the end.

I just hope we can clinch HFA and get healthy for a deep run in the playoffs.

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coaching..ONLY because the first 6-8 games of the year we put pressure on the opposing QB. Nothing as of late. as far as the O goes, Dallas stuffed the run for the most part, but we didnt commit to it enough for the playaction to work effectively

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I voted O line. But I'd like to note that it was more the entire offense and Payton.

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we learned one thing last night. The fat lady ain't always on our side. even when she was we did not play well enough to win.

should I dare say LOT in the draft

or DT

Do not count out CB either. Jenkins is better off at S IMO. Bring in more speed.

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Yes, Master. Pray tell and let us know whom we can select late in the draft to address our needs.

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If you want a DT or DE, this is the year to get em...

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I'll take one of each please, and throw in an OLB as well.

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yep. that leaves what, one draft pick left? :crying:

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There's always free-agency.

Maybe ole two-pick Morstead can play OLB too.

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Lots of roster decisions to make in 2010, my man. Contracts were back loaded and uncapped year... we could see a few of our own FA's go.

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In an uncapped year we won't lose them. Most will be restricted.

But what we may see, and it may be what you meant, is that we'll cut dead weight without fear of a cap hit.

Grant is probably candidate number 1, with Reggie Bush candidate #2

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And I thought I couldn't get anymore depressed.

I voted defensive backfield. We need more depth at corner, and at the safety positions. Although, if we had DE's, and DT's getting any pressure up front, then it would take alot of the heat off of our DBs. I don't know man... Still alot of needs on defense. Offense is not a priority.

I've also thought RB, as well. We need another Duece back there. How about Spiller?

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Exactly. Tuff to see Bush not here. His injuries may be his demise.

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THEY PUT 2 TDS ON OUR BUTS BEFORE WE HAD 5 MINUTES OF OFFENCE,ITS THE DEFENCE THAT KILLED US SORRY TO MUCH cussion by our cbs to soft of our corner play.the tackling was pee-wee like, they just got out physicaled by there big chump recievers. payton manning is going to have a all pro day on our asses if we don't fix the defencive problems,i'm still saying were going to the big dance.

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Alot of arm tackling out there, that's for sure. They need to get back to basics, on alot of things.

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... hard to win games when you only score 3 points in 3+ quarters.

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LMAO Still early yet but these are on top of my must see list right now.

http://blackandgold.com/saints/23131...ts-select.html-

I really like this draft from 16 to the top of the third so far. Some nice players worth the pick.

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Bad news--Bushrod needed help with Ware, coaches needed to adjust and they did not.

Good News---Demarcus Ware is only on the Cowboys team and if we see him again, hopefully a TE or RB will help Bushrod out.

3rd and 7 and you can't get off the field, you loose the game.

Cowgirls wanted it and needed it more than the Saints.

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offensive line....

coaching staff...

special teams......not hartley and morstead.....but coverage was terrible

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Thank You. Everybody always jumps on the defense. If we score our average point total we win. The O-line was terrible. Thomas missed 2 blitzes and the defender came in untouched. Too many dropped passes and on the Brees interception the whole timing of the play was thrown off from the beginning when Goodwin left the game after being shaken up and leckey came in and the shotgun snap hit Brees in the facemask which cost him a second and threw off his timing an he under threw the ball. Payton should have given help to Bushrod but didn't and we really missed Shockey. We beat Tampa this week and we can rest everyone for 2 weeks to get healthy and we will be fine for the playoffs.

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the difference is right here. the cowboys played like a desperate team who absolutely had to have this win to save their season and dignity. the saints arent desperate and weren't ready to match the cowboys intensity. which is only natural when your being told all week how you're so much better than the cowboys and how they dont stand a chance. naturally the saints came out laid back and not ready for the more focused cowboys. as much as it hurts to say, but its true.

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We got behind early...AGAIN...and this time the well was dry. After last weeks win, Peyton tried to be what he calls "balanced", rather than taking what was being given, and it backfired. Balance will come because we have so many weapons that open up other parts of our game. We got down and became one dimensional: 45 throws and 11 rushes. There was no protection, no push up front, no pass rush on the other side of the ball, poor tackling: we did everything necessary to lose the game. Cowboys did what they had to to win: rushed for over 100, protected Romo, kept the ball out of our hands (T.O.P.), and held on down the stretch. Good on "D"...and shame on us.

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GOTTA TACKLE somebody.... all this diving at runners' legs and shoulder bumping ... tackle... tackle... tackle....

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The offensive line had there issues but for the most part the gaurd and center play wasn't that bad. The tackles and running backs are a totally different story, yes we saw Bushrod get beat all night but there were plays that Peirre Thomas was supposed to pick up a blitzing linebacker that was coming up the middle and missed, supposed to chip the defensive end and did nothing. It was pretty much known by all that Bushrod couldn't handle Ware by himself, Where was the Help?

I said this earlier, IMO Shockey was missed more for his blocking ability than his pass catching.

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When the Cowboys play up to their abilities, they are a good team. They were playing for their season. Throw in the Saints not playing a good game and you have the outcome. Just like any team in the NFL, if you don't show up, if you turn the ball over and don't create any turnovers, or you simply don't play your best, you can be beat.

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Unbelievable that we've been putting Strief over with Bushrod all season except against Dallas. Big Fat F- on that one Sean :( Dinkins and Strief should have been in a lot more once Spencer and Ware fired up.

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o line and backfield gave up too many big plays

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I knew we were screwed when the Times-Picayune ran a love story for Corporate Johnny (Benson); they need to keep Rita front and center...that brunette has some good karma...

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Couldn't agree with you more...

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HA HA HA

LMAO

I read that too and thought the same thing. 4 years ago he tried to move the team through the night out of a disaster area and lied his butt off and got busted. Remember the dead refridgerators on the side of the road spray painted with "DON'T OPEN TOM BENSON INSIDE"

4 years later, OH WE LOVE YOU TOM!

Put Rita out front man and leave it like that, please.

You're right, JINX!

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The break down with the Saints came before they ever set foot on the field. They walked into the game like they all had the flu. No one including Drew Brees had any fire to them. It looked like a Zombie movie out there. Nobody showed any signs of life until late in the game.

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On every play the are 10 or 11 battles going on,we're not going to win them all,but when you get to the 4th qtr. and you're down by 3 or 4(had to figure the cowboys would get at least another field goal) scores,I can think of no reason to let our offense huddle...I watched OUR coach piss away 2-4 min. with poor clock management...If we'd had 3-4min. for that last drive,we could've had a lot better options against there aggressive pass rush....I'm not saying we didn't have problems with our O-line or in giving up some big 3rd dwns.,but by not going to the hurry-up, a HUGE opportunity was squandered.We hardly deserved the win,and still could've...Yes, we were down early,and were losing most of those individual battles,but if there's one thing this team as shown me this yr.,that I've not seen in the 16yrs. I've been in NOLA,is stamina...They haven't given up,and shame on the Who Dats,who got discouraged early....In 641 we're on our feet,and screamin our asses off for EVERY Def. play...."We might have lost that game, But dey can't keep us down,,Da Black & Gold,Gonna be Miami Bound.....WHO DAT!!!!!

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O-Line basically got owned! D-Line & D-Backs were so so! Game planning needs a little work.

WarEagle, split up that po' boy!!