Five good points from Peter King

saintsfan1976 · 12-20-2009, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

he shouldnt have to......at least not every play.....and not nearly as many times as #74 made it look like

demarcus ware is good but he is having an off year and he was coming off a big injury to his neck

#74 got beat bad nearly every play and on the plays that he didnt get beat bad, he should've gotten beat bad because he picked up the wrong guy anyway

I haven't rewatched the game enuf to say otherwise. I do remember him being beat often.

But Canton, that's what you get with a backup playing the starter role. He's played well overall but should be expected to have problems with a guy like Ware (regardless of his season's stats).

He's our LT for the playoffs. I don't want to see Streif there for sure.

the-commish · 12-21-2009, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I haven't rewatched the game enuf to say otherwise. I do remember him being beat often.

But Canton, that's what you get with a backup playing the starter role. He's played well overall but should be expected to have problems with a guy like Ware (regardless of his season's stats).

He's our LT for the playoffs. I don't want to see Streif there for sure.

But we may have to run fewer empty backfield sets; with fewer receivers in the pattern. You just have to give up the extra receiver to make sure Brees is upright, and secure in the pocket.

And, above all, we are going to have to make an effort to get the running game going again.

Sir Psycho Sexy · 12-21-2009, 11:45 AM

Shockey being out prevented the Two-TE set we normally run. Which contributed to there being no help for Bushrod. I was curious why Strief was never given a shot at some point? Was he active?

neugey · 12-21-2009, 02:45 PM

I will give the Cowboys credit - the runningbacks and especially Romo, outside of one throw, did a good job of protecting the football. Saints never came close to getting a turnover.

saintsfan1976 · 12-21-2009, 02:55 PM

Cardiac arrest huh??? sniff...sniff...

foreverfan · 12-21-2009, 03:42 PM

Payton hinted at his press conference that Bushrod was playing hurt. In fact, the whole OL was banged up. Plus not having Shockey didn't help.

The running game wasn't working. Looking back, we should have ran more Lance Moore screen passes.

Tobias-Reiper · 12-21-2009, 03:57 PM

I'll have the same double captainccino obviouso grande King is having...
.. man, Shirley Povich is turning in his grave right now...

stockman311 · 12-21-2009, 03:59 PM

Let's see how opponents handle us when we have all 4 wide recievers, Shockey, and Bush healthy and a 2 week rested O LINE.

Our Bye Week was in week 4! Not sure how many time I need to remind people of this.

darstep · 12-21-2009, 04:10 PM

Put a pin in Point#1 - and then ask Sean Peyton why he didn't do something about it. Not necessarily an extra blocker; Brees is the dink-and-dunk king. This was the perfect game for gutting the opponent with the underneath routes...draws...screens. We wouldn't even have to help Bushrod when everything is happening behind Ware's bull rush - Dallas would have made DWare do something else if he was out of every play. We tried to force our will on an opponent that wasn't having it. They weren't giving us anything deep and we didn't take advantage of the short. After Bush came up lame, Lance Moore should have been sitting down in the middle. Dallas played well all around - we play lousy all around.

Cruize · 12-21-2009, 04:21 PM

Four targets out on any play through various combinations with Thomas/Bush, Colston/Meachem/Henderson/Moore, and Shockey/Thomas is good enough to move the football all night long. Not giving Bushrod any help was just a bad coaching decision.

12-20-2009, 11:06 PM	#11
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Five good points from Peter King Originally Posted by CantonLegend he shouldnt have to......at least not every play.....and not nearly as many times as #74 made it look like demarcus ware is good but he is having an off year and he was coming off a big injury to his neck #74 got beat bad nearly every play and on the plays that he didnt get beat bad, he should've gotten beat bad because he picked up the wrong guy anyway I haven't rewatched the game enuf to say otherwise. I do remember him being beat often. But Canton, that's what you get with a backup playing the starter role. He's played well overall but should be expected to have problems with a guy like Ware (regardless of his season's stats). He's our LT for the playoffs. I don't want to see Streif there for sure.

12-21-2009, 11:20 AM	#12
the-commish Longtime WhoDat Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 529	Re: Five good points from Peter King Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I haven't rewatched the game enuf to say otherwise. I do remember him being beat often. But Canton, that's what you get with a backup playing the starter role. He's played well overall but should be expected to have problems with a guy like Ware (regardless of his season's stats). He's our LT for the playoffs. I don't want to see Streif there for sure. But we may have to run fewer empty backfield sets; with fewer receivers in the pattern. You just have to give up the extra receiver to make sure Brees is upright, and secure in the pocket. And, above all, we are going to have to make an effort to get the running game going again.

12-21-2009, 11:45 AM	#13
Sir Psycho Sexy Moderator Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA - Behind enemy lines. Someone throw me a grenade!! Posts: 941	Re: Five good points from Peter King Shockey being out prevented the Two-TE set we normally run. Which contributed to there being no help for Bushrod. I was curious why Strief was never given a shot at some point? Was he active?

12-21-2009, 02:45 PM	#14
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Five good points from Peter King I will give the Cowboys credit - the runningbacks and especially Romo, outside of one throw, did a good job of protecting the football. Saints never came close to getting a turnover.

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12-21-2009, 03:42 PM	#16
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Five good points from Peter King Payton hinted at his press conference that Bushrod was playing hurt. In fact, the whole OL was banged up. Plus not having Shockey didn't help. The running game wasn't working. Looking back, we should have ran more Lance Moore screen passes.

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Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Five good points from Peter King I'll have the same double captainccino obviouso grande King is having... .. man, Shirley Povich is turning in his grave right now...

12-21-2009, 03:59 PM	#18
stockman311 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,137	Re: Five good points from Peter King Let's see how opponents handle us when we have all 4 wide recievers, Shockey, and Bush healthy and a 2 week rested O LINE. Our Bye Week was in week 4! Not sure how many time I need to remind people of this.

12-21-2009, 04:10 PM	#19
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Five good points from Peter King Put a pin in Point#1 - and then ask Sean Peyton why he didn't do something about it. Not necessarily an extra blocker; Brees is the dink-and-dunk king. This was the perfect game for gutting the opponent with the underneath routes...draws...screens. We wouldn't even have to help Bushrod when everything is happening behind Ware's bull rush - Dallas would have made DWare do something else if he was out of every play. We tried to force our will on an opponent that wasn't having it. They weren't giving us anything deep and we didn't take advantage of the short. After Bush came up lame, Lance Moore should have been sitting down in the middle. Dallas played well all around - we play lousy all around.
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12-21-2009, 04:21 PM	#20
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Five good points from Peter King Four targets out on any play through various combinations with Thomas/Bush, Colston/Meachem/Henderson/Moore, and Shockey/Thomas is good enough to move the football all night long. Not giving Bushrod any help was just a bad coaching decision.
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