Grant out for season!

AsylumGuido · 01-06-2010, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Let's hope for better than the production we've gotten from Will Smith till now...

A little more pressure from the other side can only help Bill's production. Chuck simply wasn't providing that supporting pressure.

iceshack149 · 01-06-2010, 10:10 AM

My first thought about this was that while Grant wasn't all we hoped for he was the starting DE for the Saints. He must be the second best DE the Saints had right? I won't challenge G. Williams if that's what he believed.

My second thought was a question. Who fills in? McCray just got a DUI last week right? I guess my hope is a bit renewed in Spicer but I'm not liking this too much.

exile · 01-06-2010, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

My second thought was a question. Who fills in? McCray just got a DUI last week right? I guess my hope is a bit renewed in Spicer but I'm not liking this too much.

McCray will fill in quite nicely with Charleston/Spicer rotating backups. McCray won't be suspended anytime soon if at all.

AsylumGuido · 01-06-2010, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

My first thought about this was that while Grant wasn't all we hoped for he was the starting DE for the Saints. He must be the second best DE the Saints had right? I won't challenge G. Williams if that's what he believed.

My second thought was a question. Who fills in? McCray just got a DUI last week right? I guess my hope is a bit renewed in Spicer but I'm not liking this too much.

I would love to see Tony Hargrove get the nod. He is a natural DE who has been filling the role of DT. Mario Pressley is also another high motor type who can fill the role. I have always liked Spicer, but there wasn't room for him at the beginning of the season with all the depth we had at DE. But, I see Spicer as depth rather than as a starter. Sure, I can see him getting time, especially when we go with the three DE alignment along with Ellis, but I would like to see Hargrove getting the bulk of the play opposite Smith.

Danno · 01-06-2010, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

My first thought about this was that while Grant wasn't all we hoped for he was the starting DE for the Saints. He must be the second best DE the Saints had right? I won't challenge G. Williams if that's what he believed.

My second thought was a question. Who fills in? McCray just got a DUI last week right? I guess my hope is a bit renewed in Spicer but I'm not liking this too much.

Well its a bit more complicated that that. McCray is probably better suited at RDE than LDE, and he isn't beating out Will Smith.

If Will Smith were to go down, McRay would be a better RDE than Grant would.

Spicer is a lot like Grant and Hargrove in that he has the bulk to play LDE effectively against the run, and can slide inside and play the 3-tech nicely on pass downs.

Hargrove and the suspensions being placed on hold were the main reasons Spicer was let go IMO. And also McRay is probably a better back-up at both spots than Spicer is. Spicer is probably a very poor option at RDE.

Sir Psycho Sexy · 01-05-2010, 11:56 AM

Health vs Momentum, we chose health....or did we?.

MATHIUS · 01-05-2010, 11:58 AM

adam shefter jus tweeted that we resigned paul spicer

nutria · 01-05-2010, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by MATHIUS

adam shefter jus tweeted that we resigned paul spicer

I like Spicer, but what kind of shape is he in???

MATHIUS · 01-05-2010, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by nutria

I like Spicer, but what kind of shape is he in???

hopefully hes in game shape. but i kno one thing. hes goin to have some fresh legs to pressure qbs

st thomas · 01-06-2010, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by nutria

I like Spicer, but what kind of shape is he in???

the predator looked good his first game back?

01-06-2010, 08:57 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,755	Re: Grant out for season! Originally Posted by jeanpierre Let's hope for better than the production we've gotten from Will Smith till now... A little more pressure from the other side can only help Bill's production. Chuck simply wasn't providing that supporting pressure.

01-06-2010, 10:10 AM	#2
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,441 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Grant out for season! My first thought about this was that while Grant wasn't all we hoped for he was the starting DE for the Saints. He must be the second best DE the Saints had right? I won't challenge G. Williams if that's what he believed. My second thought was a question. Who fills in? McCray just got a DUI last week right? I guess my hope is a bit renewed in Spicer but I'm not liking this too much.

01-06-2010, 10:17 AM	#3
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01-06-2010, 10:19 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,755	Re: Grant out for season! Originally Posted by iceshack149 My first thought about this was that while Grant wasn't all we hoped for he was the starting DE for the Saints. He must be the second best DE the Saints had right? I won't challenge G. Williams if that's what he believed. My second thought was a question. Who fills in? McCray just got a DUI last week right? I guess my hope is a bit renewed in Spicer but I'm not liking this too much. I would love to see Tony Hargrove get the nod. He is a natural DE who has been filling the role of DT. Mario Pressley is also another high motor type who can fill the role. I have always liked Spicer, but there wasn't room for him at the beginning of the season with all the depth we had at DE. But, I see Spicer as depth rather than as a starter. Sure, I can see him getting time, especially when we go with the three DE alignment along with Ellis, but I would like to see Hargrove getting the bulk of the play opposite Smith.

01-06-2010, 10:36 AM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Grant out for season! Originally Posted by iceshack149 My first thought about this was that while Grant wasn't all we hoped for he was the starting DE for the Saints. He must be the second best DE the Saints had right? I won't challenge G. Williams if that's what he believed. My second thought was a question. Who fills in? McCray just got a DUI last week right? I guess my hope is a bit renewed in Spicer but I'm not liking this too much. Well its a bit more complicated that that. McCray is probably better suited at RDE than LDE, and he isn't beating out Will Smith. If Will Smith were to go down, McRay would be a better RDE than Grant would. Spicer is a lot like Grant and Hargrove in that he has the bulk to play LDE effectively against the run, and can slide inside and play the 3-tech nicely on pass downs. Hargrove and the suspensions being placed on hold were the main reasons Spicer was let go IMO. And also McRay is probably a better back-up at both spots than Spicer is. Spicer is probably a very poor option at RDE.

01-05-2010, 11:56 AM	#6
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01-05-2010, 11:58 AM	#7
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01-05-2010, 08:49 PM	#8
nutria Sac-A-Lait Join Date: May 2006 Location: Prairieville, LA Posts: 262	Re: Grant out for season! Originally Posted by MATHIUS adam shefter jus tweeted that we resigned paul spicer I like Spicer, but what kind of shape is he in???

01-05-2010, 09:06 PM	#9
MATHIUS Leave no doubts Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 316	Re: Grant out for season! Originally Posted by nutria I like Spicer, but what kind of shape is he in??? hopefully hes in game shape. but i kno one thing. hes goin to have some fresh legs to pressure qbs
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01-06-2010, 10:53 PM	#10
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Grant out for season! Originally Posted by nutria I like Spicer, but what kind of shape is he in??? the predator looked good his first game back?