Grant out for season!

exile · 01-06-2010, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Well its a bit more complicated that that. McCray is probably better suited at RDE than LDE, and he isn't beating out Will Smith.

If Will Smith were to go down, McRay would be a better RDE than Grant would.

Spicer is a lot like Grant and Hargrove in that he has the bulk to play LDE effectively against the run, and can slide inside and play the 3-tech nicely on pass downs.

Hargrove and the suspensions being placed on hold were the main reasons Spicer was let go IMO. And also McRay is probably a better back-up at both spots than Spicer is. Spicer is probably a very poor option at RDE.

That's all true Danno. But I still think McCray gets the start in Grant's spot. He has played there at times anyway. And don't forget this guy. I bet we see more of him than Spicer.

Jeff Charleston | #97 | DE
New Orleans Saints | Official Team Site
Height: 6-4 Weight: 265 Age: 26 Born: 1/19/1983 Oregon City , OR
College: Idaho State
Experience: 3rd season
High School: Central HS [Independence, OR]

As far as Hargrove. I doubt he plays DE since we really need him in the middle. Pressley hasn't proven he can cut it as that guy and Hargrove is way to valuable on the interior d-line.

Danno · 01-06-2010, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by exile

That's all true Danno. But I still think McCray gets the start in Grant's spot. He has played there at times anyway. And don't forget this guy. I bet we see more of him than Spicer.

Jeff Charleston | #97 | DE
New Orleans Saints | Official Team Site
Height: 6-4 Weight: 265 Age: 26 Born: 1/19/1983 Oregon City , OR
College: Idaho State
Experience: 3rd season
High School: Central HS [Independence, OR]

As far as Hargrove. I doubt he plays DE since we really need him in the middle. Pressley hasn't proven he can cut it as that guy and Hargrove is way to valuable on the interior d-line.

Probably true. Spicer is here strictly for depth in the rotation. And I agree, Hargrove is probably our best LDE option, but it would weaken our DT's way too much to make him switch.

McCray has back problems so that worries me.

I also would not be surprised if we made some more moves. Spicer may not be here very long.

iceshack149 · 01-06-2010, 11:33 AM

Was it just me (and my slow, poor resolution work computer) or was Pressley involved in a lot of run stuffs last week? If so, he might be a blessing in disguise.

And hopefully Charleston will come on like he did in that game last year (I forget which one) when he had two sacks allowing Hargrove to stay in the middle.

Danno · 01-06-2010, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Was it just me (and my slow, poor resolution work computer) or was Pressley involved in a lot of run stuffs last week? If so, he might be a blessing in disguise.

And hopefully Charleston will come on like he did in that game last year (I forget which one) when he had two sacks allowing Hargrove to stay in the middle.

Well he was credited with 3 solo tackles, and for a space eating DT whose main job is to occupy blockers, thats above average.

Good observation.

01-06-2010, 10:53 AM	#1
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: Grant out for season! Originally Posted by Danno Well its a bit more complicated that that. McCray is probably better suited at RDE than LDE, and he isn't beating out Will Smith. If Will Smith were to go down, McRay would be a better RDE than Grant would. Spicer is a lot like Grant and Hargrove in that he has the bulk to play LDE effectively against the run, and can slide inside and play the 3-tech nicely on pass downs. Hargrove and the suspensions being placed on hold were the main reasons Spicer was let go IMO. And also McRay is probably a better back-up at both spots than Spicer is. Spicer is probably a very poor option at RDE. That's all true Danno. But I still think McCray gets the start in Grant's spot. He has played there at times anyway. And don't forget this guy. I bet we see more of him than Spicer. Jeff Charleston \| #97 \| DE New Orleans Saints \| Official Team Site Height: 6-4 Weight: 265 Age: 26 Born: 1/19/1983 Oregon City , OR College: Idaho State Experience: 3rd season High School: Central HS [Independence, OR] As far as Hargrove. I doubt he plays DE since we really need him in the middle. Pressley hasn't proven he can cut it as that guy and Hargrove is way to valuable on the interior d-line.
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01-06-2010, 11:03 AM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Grant out for season! Originally Posted by exile That's all true Danno. But I still think McCray gets the start in Grant's spot. He has played there at times anyway. And don't forget this guy. I bet we see more of him than Spicer. Jeff Charleston \| #97 \| DE New Orleans Saints \| Official Team Site Height: 6-4 Weight: 265 Age: 26 Born: 1/19/1983 Oregon City , OR College: Idaho State Experience: 3rd season High School: Central HS [Independence, OR] As far as Hargrove. I doubt he plays DE since we really need him in the middle. Pressley hasn't proven he can cut it as that guy and Hargrove is way to valuable on the interior d-line. Probably true. Spicer is here strictly for depth in the rotation. And I agree, Hargrove is probably our best LDE option, but it would weaken our DT's way too much to make him switch. McCray has back problems so that worries me. I also would not be surprised if we made some more moves. Spicer may not be here very long.

01-06-2010, 11:33 AM	#3
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,407 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Grant out for season! Was it just me (and my slow, poor resolution work computer) or was Pressley involved in a lot of run stuffs last week? If so, he might be a blessing in disguise. And hopefully Charleston will come on like he did in that game last year (I forget which one) when he had two sacks allowing Hargrove to stay in the middle.

01-06-2010, 01:08 PM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Grant out for season! Originally Posted by iceshack149 Was it just me (and my slow, poor resolution work computer) or was Pressley involved in a lot of run stuffs last week? If so, he might be a blessing in disguise. And hopefully Charleston will come on like he did in that game last year (I forget which one) when he had two sacks allowing Hargrove to stay in the middle. Well he was credited with 3 solo tackles, and for a space eating DT whose main job is to occupy blockers, thats above average. Good observation.