#1 O vs #6 D and #5 O vs #25 D Who wins?

Vike4Life · 01-19-2010, 08:15 PM

Saints have the best offense bar none. Pass and run great. But they are facing the Vikings D that's darn good ranked #6. Great rushing D to force teams to become one dimensional. One of the best pass rushes to pressure QBs. There won't be 6 seconds and 4 yard pockets like the Cards gave Brees.

Whereas, the Saints D is ranked #25, not good at much except INT's. Most of those INT's came against inexperienced QB's Stafford, Sanchez, Freeman, Henne, and Ryan. Favre has protected the ball all year, so I don't think he's going to collapse against the Saints. I imagine the Saints will stick 8 in the box, like all other teams, so they can stop Peterson. So Rice or Berrian will be singled, which the Cowboys learned was stupid. Vikes live by "damn if you do... damn if you don't"... play the pass the run burns you... play the run and the pass burns you.

As I see it the Vikes Offense is not that far behind the Saints, whereas the Saints D is seriously lacking.

Please bring the excuses...

lumm0x · 01-19-2010, 08:22 PM

No excuses. It will be a good game. Maybe you can explain your team's mediocre 4-4 road record where you lost to any respectable team except the one road win in Green Bay which was likely as big or bigger than any game for Favre in his career. The Vikings statistically (since you seem to be enamored with them) look average at best on the road compared to their home performances with alarming lower stats on both sides of the football. Realistically should you not be comparing your road stats to our home stats to get a more accurate picture. You aren't in the friendly confines of the Metrodome this weekend.

Vike4Life · 01-19-2010, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by lumm0x

No excuses. It will be a good game. Maybe you can explain your team's mediocre 4-4 road record where you lost to any respectable team except the one road win in Green Bay which was likely as big or bigger than any game for Favre in his career. The Vikings statistically (since you seem to be enamored with them) look average at best on the road compared to their home performances with alarming lower stats on both sides of the football. Realistically should you not be comparing your road stats to our home stats to get a more accurate picture. You aren't in the friendly confines of the Metrodome this weekend.

Please fill free to cruch road vs home stats. If I recall you have been having a bit of problems at home recently, so your home cherry is broken. So I would be more worried about losing at home if I were you. Especially playing a team with a real D.

SaintPauly · 01-19-2010, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by Vike4Life

Please fill free to cruch road vs home stats. If I recall you have been having a bit of problems at home recently, so your home cherry is broken. So I would be more worried about losing at home if I were you. Especially playing a team with a real D.

We lost 2 at home, you guys lost 4 on the road. I would say that those stats pretty much even out. By the way, that real D, is what lost you guys those road games. They couldn't stop Chicago, or ARizona. And their offenses aren't even close to ours.

SmashMouth · 01-19-2010, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by Vike4Life

Please fill free to cruch road vs home stats. If I recall you have been having a bit of problems at home recently, so your home cherry is broken. So I would be more worried about losing at home if I were you. Especially playing a team with a real D.

Thanks for bringing it up ....wtf happened against Zona on turf in a Dome ... looks like you all get homesick and play like DOODOO when on the road .... take a deep breath and take in what Dallas felt like losing to y'all ... you'll need to drink that big tall drink of big-dose-of-reality and go-home-out-of-the-playoffs! Besides, Karma is a real Biatch, and so is payback!

Vike4Life · 01-20-2010, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Thanks for bringing it up ....wtf happened against Zona on turf in a Dome ... looks like you all get homesick and play like DOODOO when on the road .... take a deep breath and take in what Dallas felt like losing to y'all ... you'll need to drink that big tall drink of big-dose-of-reality and go-home-out-of-the-playoffs! Besides, Karma is a real Biatch, and so is payback!

Cards don't have turf, their field is grass and is moved out on a big tray into the parking lot.... no joke it's fun to watch.

The Card vs Vikes game was not, I was there.

Cards were ready to fight and get revenge for the beat down the Vikes did the previous season in their house.

strato · 01-20-2010, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Vike4Life

Cards don't have turf, their field is grass and is moved out on a big tray into the parking lot.... no joke it's fun to watch.

The Card vs Vikes game was not, I was there.

Cards were ready to fight and get revenge for the beat down the Vikes did the previous season in their house.

And we will be ready to get revenge for our playoff losses to you...on OUR turf...Get ready its on bra...

saintsfan1976 · 01-20-2010, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Vike4Life

Cards were ready to fight and get revenge for the beat down the Vikes did the previous season in their house.

And so are the Saints.

lumm0x · 01-19-2010, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by Vike4Life

Please fill free to cruch road vs home stats. If I recall you have been having a bit of problems at home recently, so your home cherry is broken. So I would be more worried about losing at home if I were you. Especially playing a team with a real D.

Yep, we lost a couple at home, one meaningless as your team was backsliding their way into the bye not able to win on the road. We weren't the team losing with our starters in the game at the end of the year at risk of hosting a wild card game thanks to Philly choking for you. I guess the stats are a crutch for me but a pulpit for you? Typical of someone who brings nothing to the game. You can't dispute them with facts or back up so you mock them. Solid effort...

saintsfan1976 · 01-19-2010, 08:23 PM

I think you throw the stats out of the window for this game.

The defensive rank means nothing to us because our players are all finally healthy for once. It's up to Gregg Williams to put our guys in the right spot to make plays.

Both teams are healthy and have momentum. I wouldn't ask for the NFC Championship to be played any other way.

I think it comes down to who can protect their QB the best and limit turnovers.

I could see a close game and a 3 point win.

01-19-2010, 08:15 PM	#1
Vike4Life Registered Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 72	#1 O vs #6 D and #5 O vs #25 D Who wins? Saints have the best offense bar none. Pass and run great. But they are facing the Vikings D that's darn good ranked #6. Great rushing D to force teams to become one dimensional. One of the best pass rushes to pressure QBs. There won't be 6 seconds and 4 yard pockets like the Cards gave Brees. Whereas, the Saints D is ranked #25, not good at much except INT's. Most of those INT's came against inexperienced QB's Stafford, Sanchez, Freeman, Henne, and Ryan. Favre has protected the ball all year, so I don't think he's going to collapse against the Saints. I imagine the Saints will stick 8 in the box, like all other teams, so they can stop Peterson. So Rice or Berrian will be singled, which the Cowboys learned was stupid. Vikes live by "damn if you do... damn if you don't"... play the pass the run burns you... play the run and the pass burns you. As I see it the Vikes Offense is not that far behind the Saints, whereas the Saints D is seriously lacking. Please bring the excuses...
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01-19-2010, 08:38 PM	#3
Vike4Life Registered Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 72	Re: #1 O vs #6 D and #5 O vs #25 D Who wins? Originally Posted by lumm0x No excuses. It will be a good game. Maybe you can explain your team's mediocre 4-4 road record where you lost to any respectable team except the one road win in Green Bay which was likely as big or bigger than any game for Favre in his career. The Vikings statistically (since you seem to be enamored with them) look average at best on the road compared to their home performances with alarming lower stats on both sides of the football. Realistically should you not be comparing your road stats to our home stats to get a more accurate picture. You aren't in the friendly confines of the Metrodome this weekend. Please fill free to cruch road vs home stats. If I recall you have been having a bit of problems at home recently, so your home cherry is broken. So I would be more worried about losing at home if I were you. Especially playing a team with a real D.
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01-19-2010, 08:41 PM	#4
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: #1 O vs #6 D and #5 O vs #25 D Who wins? Originally Posted by Vike4Life Please fill free to cruch road vs home stats. If I recall you have been having a bit of problems at home recently, so your home cherry is broken. So I would be more worried about losing at home if I were you. Especially playing a team with a real D. We lost 2 at home, you guys lost 4 on the road. I would say that those stats pretty much even out. By the way, that real D, is what lost you guys those road games. They couldn't stop Chicago, or ARizona. And their offenses aren't even close to ours.

01-20-2010, 03:36 PM	#6
Vike4Life Registered Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 72	Re: #1 O vs #6 D and #5 O vs #25 D Who wins? Originally Posted by SmashMouth Thanks for bringing it up ....wtf happened against Zona on turf in a Dome ... looks like you all get homesick and play like DOODOO when on the road .... take a deep breath and take in what Dallas felt like losing to y'all ... you'll need to drink that big tall drink of big-dose-of-reality and go-home-out-of-the-playoffs! Besides, Karma is a real Biatch, and so is payback! Cards don't have turf, their field is grass and is moved out on a big tray into the parking lot.... no joke it's fun to watch. The Card vs Vikes game was not, I was there. Cards were ready to fight and get revenge for the beat down the Vikes did the previous season in their house.
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01-20-2010, 03:40 PM	#7
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: #1 O vs #6 D and #5 O vs #25 D Who wins? Originally Posted by Vike4Life Cards don't have turf, their field is grass and is moved out on a big tray into the parking lot.... no joke it's fun to watch. The Card vs Vikes game was not, I was there. Cards were ready to fight and get revenge for the beat down the Vikes did the previous season in their house. And we will be ready to get revenge for our playoff losses to you...on OUR turf...Get ready its on bra...

01-19-2010, 08:22 PM	#2
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: #1 O vs #6 D and #5 O vs #25 D Who wins? No excuses. It will be a good game. Maybe you can explain your team's mediocre 4-4 road record where you lost to any respectable team except the one road win in Green Bay which was likely as big or bigger than any game for Favre in his career. The Vikings statistically (since you seem to be enamored with them) look average at best on the road compared to their home performances with alarming lower stats on both sides of the football. Realistically should you not be comparing your road stats to our home stats to get a more accurate picture. You aren't in the friendly confines of the Metrodome this weekend.

01-19-2010, 08:46 PM	#5
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Re: #1 O vs #6 D and #5 O vs #25 D Who wins? Originally Posted by Vike4Life Please fill free to cruch road vs home stats. If I recall you have been having a bit of problems at home recently, so your home cherry is broken. So I would be more worried about losing at home if I were you. Especially playing a team with a real D. Thanks for bringing it up ....wtf happened against Zona on turf in a Dome ... looks like you all get homesick and play like DOODOO when on the road .... take a deep breath and take in what Dallas felt like losing to y'all ... you'll need to drink that big tall drink of big-dose-of-reality and go-home-out-of-the-playoffs! Besides, Karma is a real Biatch, and so is payback!

01-20-2010, 03:55 PM	#8
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,972 Blog Entries: 3	Re: #1 O vs #6 D and #5 O vs #25 D Who wins? Originally Posted by Vike4Life Cards were ready to fight and get revenge for the beat down the Vikes did the previous season in their house. And so are the Saints.

01-19-2010, 11:46 PM	#9
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: #1 O vs #6 D and #5 O vs #25 D Who wins? Originally Posted by Vike4Life Please fill free to cruch road vs home stats. If I recall you have been having a bit of problems at home recently, so your home cherry is broken. So I would be more worried about losing at home if I were you. Especially playing a team with a real D. Yep, we lost a couple at home, one meaningless as your team was backsliding their way into the bye not able to win on the road. We weren't the team losing with our starters in the game at the end of the year at risk of hosting a wild card game thanks to Philly choking for you. I guess the stats are a crutch for me but a pulpit for you? Typical of someone who brings nothing to the game. You can't dispute them with facts or back up so you mock them. Solid effort...

01-19-2010, 08:23 PM	#10
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,972 Blog Entries: 3	Re: #1 O vs #6 D and #5 O vs #25 D Who wins? I think you throw the stats out of the window for this game. The defensive rank means nothing to us because our players are all finally healthy for once. It's up to Gregg Williams to put our guys in the right spot to make plays. Both teams are healthy and have momentum. I wouldn't ask for the NFC Championship to be played any other way. I think it comes down to who can protect their QB the best and limit turnovers. I could see a close game and a 3 point win.