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OMG - GOODWIN makes PRO-BOWL ahead of Faine???
What is this world coming to.
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Re: OMG - GOODWIN makes PRO-BOWL ahead of Faine???
Well deserved if this is true. Going back to mid season last year, he's done a great job alongside Nicks and Evans opening holes up the middle for our running game. The sack numbers and lack of push up the middle by our opponents says enough about his pass protection.
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Re: OMG - GOODWIN makes PRO-BOWL ahead of Faine???
It has been an Ok season for the line over all. Bushrod has done Ok but...
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Re: OMG - GOODWIN makes PRO-BOWL ahead of Faine???
Saints' Goodwin, Giants' Smith added to NFC Pro Bowl roster
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 20, 2010 6:12 PM ET The always-evolving list of 2010 Pro Bowlers has two more names on it: Saints center Jonathan Goodwin and Giants wide receiver Steve Smith. Goodwin was added to the roster as an injury replacement for Cowboys center Andre Gurode. With guard Jahri Evans and tackle Jon Stinchcomb already on the squad, the Saints now have three offensive linemen on the NFC Pro Bowl team. At least, they do for now: They'll all miss the Pro Bowl if the Saints play in the Super Bowl. Smith is an injury replacement for Cardinals wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald. And although many players at this time of year treat the Pro Bowl like a chore they hope to avoid, Smith sounded genuinely thrilled to be chosen for the first time. "I'm really excited about playing in the Pro Bowl," Smith said. "It's truly an honor to be recognized by the fans, coaches and players as one of the best in the league." |
Re: OMG - GOODWIN makes PRO-BOWL ahead of Faine???
I think someone had posted a list of Pro-Bowl Alternates not long after the rosters were announced. Goodwin and Will Smith were both first alternates. If I remember correctly, Nicks and Colston were 2nd alternates. Goodwin deserves to be there. He's had an excellent year.
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Re: OMG - GOODWIN makes PRO-BOWL ahead of Faine???
faine was injured for a lot of the season and played on a team that was terrible
goodwin made the pro bowl by default because of the enormous amount of votes that all the saints players got this season there is nothing that goodwin does better than faine.....absolutely nothing there are several bright spots on the buccaneers team and faine is one of them he will help build their offensive line back up because he is so versatile......hes big enough to plug up the middle and fast enough to pull from the center position as well as gettin up to the second level on chips to help block linebackers goodwin rarely if ever pulls because he cant the only reason he gets any recognition is because he is in between 2 of the best guards in the league and because he played on a team that is one of the best offensive teams the league has ever seen |
Re: OMG - GOODWIN makes PRO-BOWL ahead of Faine???
His size allows him to hold up better against bigger tackles. But as far as who's the better player, this year it's Goodwin and last year it was Faine... overall, Faine obviously.
Don't see why you have to continually dumb down what Goodwin has accomplished and what he turned himself in to. The man had a good year. I'm pretty sure when players and coaches were putting in their votes, they did so because they think he's a pretty good player in his own right... not because he plays btw Nicks and Evans. Is it impossible to think they all compliment each other and they're all good? The results seem to justify it. It's like PT all over again... only this time it's Goodwin. |
Re: OMG - GOODWIN makes PRO-BOWL ahead of Faine???
ive heard goodwins name called once all year and it was his announcement to the probowl. sounds like a good thing from a center if you ask me.
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but when somebody can single out a center in between 2 studs dont you think there is something wrong? goodwin is doin a lot better with help from nicks this season, something he didnt get a lot of from jamar nesbit like you said, faine is clearly the better center but he is playing on a terrible team with a terrible offensive line......who would you rather have in the long run? faine is the faster, more mobile, and smarter of the 2......its a shame that goodwin has to start at center because he would make a great backup all acrossed our line.....he could fill in at any position temporarily.....but he is not starter material its not that i hate goodwin...its that when people give him credit for doin something, usually it wasnt even him that did it....usually he gets credit for doing something that he is not even responsible for like the pressure up the middle argument......does anybody realize what the centers job is? his job is to double team whichever DT is lined up over him.....but rarely is his job to man up on a DT.....not only that, but when drew was getting sacked and giving up fumbles early on, it was pressure from the middle getting to him.... everybody gets beat....including evans and nicks, but goodwin cant manage to double team correctly most of the time and thats what gets on my nerves....if you cant pull as a center in the NFL then there is something very wrong and goodwin barely ever pulls because he cant Quote:
im not exactly sure what you're talking about when you said we started winning when faine got hurt.....faine was hurt for 2 games during the 2007 season in which we won both games......however, we had won the 2 games prior to those 2 games in 2007 we finished the season 7-9 and that was his last season as a saint......but you are blamin the wins and losses on him? do you forget about our future hall of famer we had starting at corner for 2007? his name was jason david.....what a stud |
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