Peyton Manning shoud be cut !!

WhoDat · 09-13-2003, 11:39 PM

What I think Billy is trying to say here is that Manning has had more time in Indy and isn\'t \"coming through\" the way the fans want him to there either - so if you advocate finding a replacement for Brooks then you have to advocate finding a replacement for Manning. Is that right Billy?

I, for one, AGREE COMPLETELY with that rational. I DO NOT think Peyton will be able to get it done wearing blue and white and I think he DOES need a change of scenery. I didn\'t say Manning was bad, I said he\'s not working in the system. Same holds true for Brooks.

Peyton and Brooks are actually similar QBs in that they both make a lot of bone-headed decisions, but are both gifted talent-wise. So why do I like Peyton more than Brooks? Obviously I have a vendetta.

No, the reason is this - toughness. Manning sits in the pocket and takes hits. The man played with a freakin\' broken jaw. I\'m sure there will be plenty of arguments from the guys who log into this site from the bushes outside of Aaron\'s house ripping that comment for one reason or another, but that\'s my opinion.

I also think Manning\'s talent-set is a better fit for our scheme, but that\'s just me. But, Billy is right. Manning is yet to prove that he is THE answer in Indy. Just as Brooks has failed to prove himself in black and gold.

BillyCarpenter1 · 09-13-2003, 11:40 PM

BMG --

Well, you know with a name like BrooksMustGo that you are certain to get a slight amount of resistance from the Brooks supporters and I\'m his biggest one.

It\'s all in good fun though. We just argue our points and it doesn\'t change anything on the field.

Sometimes it gets a little heated but I think we all get over it. The members I argue with the most are the one\'s I like the most.

Just don\'t let Gator get hold of you -- He told me some things when I first started on here and oh how right he was !!!

[Edited on 14/9/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

BillyCarpenter1 · 09-13-2003, 11:45 PM

WhoDat --

I have to admit I am very surprised. You kept true to your beliefs and graded Manning the same way you did Brooks. I respect that.

I disagree with you completely but I respect your truthfulness.

[Edited on 14/9/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

tweeky · 09-14-2003, 09:31 AM

Manning looks too much like a T-Rex when he runs.
His little arms move faster than his legs.
I say cut him.

WhoDat · 09-14-2003, 10:00 AM

Brooks always looks like Gumby to me when he runs. Everything\'s in slow motion until he tries to juke someone and then his legs get all elastic and start flopping back and forth every which way.

subguy · 09-14-2003, 11:42 AM

I feel no need to post anymore, arguing with Billy gets old, but this is some funny stuff. Tweeky , B&B, WhoDat you guys are killing me. Manning, does need a change of scenery and for the Saints to have success Brooks needs to have a scenery change also. Manning would face some fire from our ineffective line, I think Gatorman said that, and I agree, but Manning is a leader(maturity) and is smart. Those 2 things alone would give us an advantage over what we have. Of course Delhomme may have been an improvement in both of those areas. Billy, you and Haslett stick by boy even when he is hurt and is a detriment to the entire team. The only difference is Haslett will lose his job over his loyalty, Billy, you will just have to eat crow. Numbers can be read to meet your own needs anyway you would like to.....and neither has been an incredible winner, sometiomes gut feelings factor in and I would take that trade straight up.

BillyCarpenter1 · 09-14-2003, 11:48 AM

Subguy --

I don\'t know what your definition of leadership is but I thought it was to lead your team to victory. Peyton is 25 & 25 as a starter. Peyton is a choke artist. He did it at Tennessee, he\'s done it with the Colts. You\'re not argueing with me, you are arguing with the FACTS.

I\'m glad you have a gut feeling about Peyton and pay no attention to the facts. Brooks has done more than Peyton in a much shorter time. I just don\'t get all the bashing of Brooks and people like you stand up for Peyton.

At least you were honest and said the only reason you are standing up for Peyton is a GUT FEELING....

You say Peyton is smart. Is that why he throws in to double coverage all the time and gets picked off. If throwing more interceptions than Brooks proves Manning is smart then I\'ll take a dumb QB everytime. And let\'s not overlook the FACT that Manning has been in the NFL twice as long as Brooks. Looks to me like Manning has reached his potential and Brooks still has some upside.

[Edited on 14/9/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

saintz08 · 09-14-2003, 12:19 PM

Looks like the current starting quarterback to be cut standard is 84.1 .

Manning 85.4 is above the standard .
Brooks 79.2 is below the standard .

Bring on Eli .....# 18

SugarbowlBaby · 09-14-2003, 05:02 PM

What a dumb thing to say.

[Edited on 14/9/2003 by SugarbowlBaby]

09-13-2003, 11:39 PM	#21
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Peyton Manning shoud be cut !! What I think Billy is trying to say here is that Manning has had more time in Indy and isn\'t \"coming through\" the way the fans want him to there either - so if you advocate finding a replacement for Brooks then you have to advocate finding a replacement for Manning. Is that right Billy? I, for one, AGREE COMPLETELY with that rational. I DO NOT think Peyton will be able to get it done wearing blue and white and I think he DOES need a change of scenery. I didn\'t say Manning was bad, I said he\'s not working in the system. Same holds true for Brooks. Peyton and Brooks are actually similar QBs in that they both make a lot of bone-headed decisions, but are both gifted talent-wise. So why do I like Peyton more than Brooks? Obviously I have a vendetta. No, the reason is this - toughness. Manning sits in the pocket and takes hits. The man played with a freakin\' broken jaw. I\'m sure there will be plenty of arguments from the guys who log into this site from the bushes outside of Aaron\'s house ripping that comment for one reason or another, but that\'s my opinion. I also think Manning\'s talent-set is a better fit for our scheme, but that\'s just me. But, Billy is right. Manning is yet to prove that he is THE answer in Indy. Just as Brooks has failed to prove himself in black and gold.
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09-13-2003, 11:40 PM	#22
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Peyton Manning shoud be cut !! BMG -- Well, you know with a name like BrooksMustGo that you are certain to get a slight amount of resistance from the Brooks supporters and I\'m his biggest one. It\'s all in good fun though. We just argue our points and it doesn\'t change anything on the field. Sometimes it gets a little heated but I think we all get over it. The members I argue with the most are the one\'s I like the most. Just don\'t let Gator get hold of you -- He told me some things when I first started on here and oh how right he was !!! [Edited on 14/9/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]
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09-13-2003, 11:45 PM	#23
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Peyton Manning shoud be cut !! WhoDat -- I have to admit I am very surprised. You kept true to your beliefs and graded Manning the same way you did Brooks. I respect that. I disagree with you completely but I respect your truthfulness. [Edited on 14/9/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]
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09-14-2003, 09:31 AM	#24
tweeky 500th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: South Alabama Posts: 779	Peyton Manning shoud be cut !! Manning looks too much like a T-Rex when he runs. His little arms move faster than his legs. I say cut him.

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WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Peyton Manning shoud be cut !! Brooks always looks like Gumby to me when he runs. Everything\'s in slow motion until he tries to juke someone and then his legs get all elastic and start flopping back and forth every which way.
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09-14-2003, 11:42 AM	#26
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,096	Peyton Manning shoud be cut !! I feel no need to post anymore, arguing with Billy gets old, but this is some funny stuff. Tweeky , B&B, WhoDat you guys are killing me. Manning, does need a change of scenery and for the Saints to have success Brooks needs to have a scenery change also. Manning would face some fire from our ineffective line, I think Gatorman said that, and I agree, but Manning is a leader(maturity) and is smart. Those 2 things alone would give us an advantage over what we have. Of course Delhomme may have been an improvement in both of those areas. Billy, you and Haslett stick by boy even when he is hurt and is a detriment to the entire team. The only difference is Haslett will lose his job over his loyalty, Billy, you will just have to eat crow. Numbers can be read to meet your own needs anyway you would like to.....and neither has been an incredible winner, sometiomes gut feelings factor in and I would take that trade straight up.
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09-14-2003, 11:48 AM	#27
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Peyton Manning shoud be cut !! Subguy -- I don\'t know what your definition of leadership is but I thought it was to lead your team to victory. Peyton is 25 & 25 as a starter. Peyton is a choke artist. He did it at Tennessee, he\'s done it with the Colts. You\'re not argueing with me, you are arguing with the FACTS. I\'m glad you have a gut feeling about Peyton and pay no attention to the facts. Brooks has done more than Peyton in a much shorter time. I just don\'t get all the bashing of Brooks and people like you stand up for Peyton. At least you were honest and said the only reason you are standing up for Peyton is a GUT FEELING.... You say Peyton is smart. Is that why he throws in to double coverage all the time and gets picked off. If throwing more interceptions than Brooks proves Manning is smart then I\'ll take a dumb QB everytime. And let\'s not overlook the FACT that Manning has been in the NFL twice as long as Brooks. Looks to me like Manning has reached his potential and Brooks still has some upside. [Edited on 14/9/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]
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saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Peyton Manning shoud be cut !! Looks like the current starting quarterback to be cut standard is 84.1 . Manning 85.4 is above the standard . Brooks 79.2 is below the standard . Bring on Eli .....# 18
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09-14-2003, 05:02 PM	#29
SugarbowlBaby Rookie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 24	Peyton Manning shoud be cut !! What a dumb thing to say. [Edited on 14/9/2003 by SugarbowlBaby]
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