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Old 01-27-2010, 09:37 AM   #1
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Re: Alright guys it is Wednesday-

If the Saints team that whupped the Patriots and the Cardinals shows, I think winning will be a "Brees". If it's the team that played Dallas or Tampa Bay 2........
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If the Saints team that whupped the Patriots and the Cardinals shows, I think winning will be a "Brees". If it's the team that played Dallas or Tampa Bay 2........
Yep, I second this.
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Old 01-27-2010, 09:10 PM   #3
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If the Saints team that whupped the Patriots and the Cardinals shows, I think winning will be a "Brees". If it's the team that played Dallas or Tampa Bay 2........
I completely agree with this.

If we play like we did for the first 5 weeks we are golden! If we play like we did against Washington or the VIks we are screwed!!
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Old 01-27-2010, 09:49 AM   #4
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The Colts defense is a little under rated. Now hopefully this ankle injury will slow Freeney down a bit because I'm not sure Bushrod can handle his speed, I know he can handle his power but not sure on his speed. Our LB corp has to do a better job on covering the TE. Dallas Clark will tear us up if we cover him as poorly as we did against Shanicoe. I believe Porter and Greer can cover Garcon and Wayne and put Gay on Collie. Offensively I believe we can handle Indy provided that Payton and Brees are patient enough to take what the Colts cover2 allows. The Colts do change their packages and Brees is smart enough to change the play at the right time to catch them in the wrong coverage. Running will be tough but we do need to run the ball to keep them biting on play action. If we settle down and come out like the Saints we know we can be we win this game 38-24.

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From a Colts fan perspective...

The Colts pass defense is WAY tough. It has been all year. They give up very few big plays, and lead the league I believe in TD Passes allowed. They also have only given up 2 TD's off of turnovers all year, and one of those was the sack/fumble against the Jets after they pulled the starters. The defense only allowed the NFL's BEST rushing offense 86 yards last week. Sure the Saints are more balanced. granted... but the Colts Defense was #8 in the league for points allowed. And they are really stingy in the red zone.

No one can cover the Colts receiver corps man to man down the line. Sure Darrell Revis covered Wayne... but the other guys lit them up. LB's have a REAL tough time covering Clark. He's too fast for LB's and too big for most BD's. Then there is Garcon and Collie. Both had great seasons, and are on page with Peyton, and all are playing with a lot of confidence. Not to mention the RB out of thebackfield, all of which are pretty good receivers too.

The Vikings tougher than the Colts? Please. the Colts were 14-2 and THREW away their shot at perfection. They simply tossed it away against the Jets, then again vs the Bills. They did that in the BEST division in the NFL (AFC South - check the stats if you doubt me).

I like the Saints. They surely are not the Ain't anymore. I like Drew Brees, I mean he's from Purdue after all. The Saints got a good shot. The Colts are gonna have to bring it, no doubt. But, I solidly believe the oddsmakers have it right with the Colts as the favorite.

Either way... a great organization will win. Congrats to everyone involved.

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Old 01-27-2010, 10:21 AM   #6
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Re: Alright guys it is Wednesday-

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From a Colts fan perspective...

The Colts pass defense is WAY tough. It has been all year. They give up very few big plays, and lead the league I believe in TD Passes allowed. They also have only given up 2 TD's off of turnovers all year, and one of those was the sack/fumble against the Jets after they pulled the starters. The defense only allowed the NFL's BEST rushing offense 86 yards last week. Sure the Saints are more balanced. granted... but the Colts Defense was #8 in the league for points allowed. And they are really stingy in the red zone.

No one can cover the Colts receiver corps man to man down the line. Sure Darrell Revis covered Wayne... but the other guys lit them up. LB's have a REAL tough time covering Clark. He's too fast for LB's and too big for most BD's. Then there is Garcon and Collie. Both had great seasons, and are on page with Peyton, and all are playing with a lot of confidence. Not to mention the RB out of thebackfield, all of which are pretty good receivers too.

The Vikings tougher than the Colts? Please. the Colts were 14-2 and THREW away their shot at perfection. They simply tossed it away against the Jets, then again vs the Bills. They did that in the BEST division in the NFL (AFC South - check the stats if you doubt me).

I like the Saints. They surely are not the Ain't anymore. I like Drew Brees, I mean he's from Purdue after all. The Saints got a good shot. The Colts are gonna have to bring it, no doubt. But, I solidly believe the oddsmakers have it right with the Colts as the favorite.

Either way... a great organization will win. Congrats to everyone involved.

Jabba
Actually, the Colts finished the regular season ranked in a four way tie for fewest passing TD's allowed (19) with Dallas, Washington and Houston. The Saints, on the other hand, finished the season in solo possession of 5th place in the rankings with 15 TD's allowed. One important point to note is that only ONE of those 15 came against CB's Jabari Greer and Tracy Porter (64 yarder by Roddy White on a push off that was not called). Greer and Porter missed a combined 12 games.

As for red zone stinginess, the Colts were tied for 12th with Carolina for Opponents Red Zone Scoring Percentage (ORZSP) at 50%. The Saints were ranked 3rd in the NFL at ORZSP at 42.2%.
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Originally Posted by Jabba View Post
From a Colts fan perspective...The Vikings tougher than the Colts? Please. the Colts were 14-2 and THREW away their shot at perfection. They simply tossed it away against the Jets, then again vs the Bills. They did that in the BEST division in the NFL (AFC South - check the stats if you doubt me).

I like the Saints. They surely are not the Ain't anymore. I like Drew Brees, I mean he's from Purdue after all. The Saints got a good shot. The Colts are gonna have to bring it, no doubt. But, I solidly believe the oddsmakers have it right with the Colts as the favorite.

Either way... a great organization will win. Congrats to everyone involved.

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From a match-up standpoint against the Saints... YES the Vikes are tougher.

Tougher doesn't mean better. But the Vikings absolutely dominated us on 3rd and short. We finished 3 of 12 on third down conversion. It was like trying to run through a brick wall. The Colts are not quite as stout along the front as the Vikings are. I don't think we struggle as much on 3rd and short against the Colts.

The Colts are the best team in football, but I stand by my statement that the Vikes were a tougher "match-up" for our personnel.

You guys also don't have the run game that Minnesota does. They averaged 5.8 YPC against us. And I also doubt that we'll be penalized for 88 yards again, with most of those penalties on 3rd down giving the Vikes 1st downs.

We had twice the penalties and twice the penalty yardage we normally have.
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The only thing that scares me about this Colts team is P.M...We have an equal passing game..better run game...way more physical D..and better special teams..Only way we lose is if we beat ourselves...We get after cookie boy and we take this game...Yes Indy has a fast D...but our offense is way more physical than the Jets ...Im thinking positive and seeing things for what they are...Dont let the talking heads..fool you.... we match up well with the My Ponies...The Texans should have beat them twice this year.. but they are way to mistake happy were not ..so bring on Cookie boy..Mr McCray has something to say!!!

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The Saints need to turn in a better offensive performance against the Colts to win the game. Only 15 first downs in the last game....not enough to win most games. There were several missed opportunities in the game after the defense forced some turnovers. The offense would go out there and go 3 and out. We have to have a better clock management, have more 3rd down conversions and the defense has to turn in another great performance.

I think I said it a few days ago when a lot of people were concerned about Drew's play in the game. Drew didn't play bad, he just didn't let it fly like he usually does. I really believe Drew was trying to manage the game and didn't want to make mistakes. He didn't want to be the reason the Saints didn't make it to the SB. He didn't take the chances he usually does. Well, that pressure is gone. The NFC Championship is sewn up and Drew will air it out in the SB. I think we will see Drew being Drew in the big game. I don't think that the Colts can get in the way of fate. The Saints will win this game.
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Old 01-27-2010, 10:37 AM   #10
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I will start here:

Shockey need to play the way he did in 1Q against Arizona.
Coleston needs to land with the ball still in his hands.
Reggie needs to Show up.
Everyone needs to play like this is their last game.

To the Colts fan:

On Turnovers: The Vikings came into that game feeling the same way. They were not going to turn it over like everyone else did. I will quote Warren Sapp " The Saints lead in scoring because of their Defense getting turn overs, the VIKINGS will not turn the ball over". WRONG

On QB: You have an epic quarterback. We faced two of near equality in the last two weeks and heard the same (Saints do not stand a chance against Epic Quarterbacks with playoff and SB experience like Warner and Farve) WRONG

At this point stats do not matter. The winner will be the team that shows up and commits the least fatal errors. It is about Smart Football not hard forceful football.

It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau
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