Alright guys it is Wednesday-

spkb25 · 01-27-2010, 10:02 AM

We have enjoyed (and will continue to enjoy) the win, but lets start talking Colts. Do you think we can win, and if so, if not -why? I do, and I think we can because their D is not as good as Minny's, and I do not think they have the level of threats on O that Minny does. Their running game to be specific, and at the best they have an = amount. I think our defense is better than theirs, and if we protect the ball (and can handle being in the SB) we can win this game. I believe that Indy played two teams with a one dimensional Offense, and are yet to have to stop an O like ours. I also think we played a team better than they are this past week. Anyway- what do you guys think??

JoanieNTX · 01-27-2010, 10:11 AM

I think we win if we show up. If Drew comes out with confidence, and the receivers stop "dropping" the balls! Yes, we caught some good passes Sunday against the Vikes, but we also dropped some key ones. I think our defense really rose to the occasion Sunday, and if they have just ONE MORE WEEK like that....forcing turnovers, etc., then we win. I think a whole lot of it is mental, and the guys are gonna have to find a way to calm their nerves and play ball!

AsylumGuido · 01-27-2010, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by JoanieNTX

I think we win if we show up. If Drew comes out with confidence, and the receivers stop "dropping" the balls! Yes, we caught some good passes Sunday against the Vikes, but we also dropped some key ones. I think our defense really rose to the occasion Sunday, and if they have just ONE MORE WEEK like that....forcing turnovers, etc., then we win. I think a whole lot of it is mental, and the guys are gonna have to find a way to calm their nerves and play ball!

An interesting point to note has been raised many times over the years by players that have made it to the Super Bowl. To a man they have all said that the pressure felt in the Conference Championship game was many times greater than that experienced in the Super Bowl. I feel the lack of the normal sharpness that we saw against the Vikings was a direct affect of the added pressure. The Saints had everything to lose this past Sunday. They had made the Championship game just four years earlier, but fell short of the Big One. The pressure was on and they struggled with penalties, dropped balls and tentative passing. But, they won and now the pressure is off. It is all gravy now. Now is the time to go out and have fun. I think we are going to see the Saints clicking on all cylinders both offensively and defensively.

Danno · 01-27-2010, 10:27 AM

Personally, if you asked me which team I'd prefer to play for all the marbles, Vikings or Colts, I probably pick the Colts.

The Vikings are built exactly like teams that we've struggled with since Brees/Payton arrived.

We just barely got past the physical smashmouth team, now we face a team I think we match up much better against.

As far as playing against these 2009 Saints, I think the Vikings were a tougher draw than the Colts will be.

reggie060 · 01-27-2010, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Personally, if you asked me which team I'd prefer to play for all the marbles, Vikings or Colts, I probably pick the Colts.

The Vikings are built exactly like teams that we've struggled with since Brees/Payton arrived.

We just barely got past the physical smashmouth team, now we face a team I think we match up much better against.

As far as playing against these 2009 Saints, I think the Vikings were a tougher draw than the Colts will be.

that true.. I think we got out of our game plan... A few 3rd and 1's and 2's for -yards. Those are the game changers

Stiggs · 01-27-2010, 10:37 AM

If the Saints team that whupped the Patriots and the Cardinals shows, I think winning will be a "Brees". If it's the team that played Dallas or Tampa Bay 2........

Budsdrinker · 01-27-2010, 10:49 AM

The Colts defense is a little under rated. Now hopefully this ankle injury will slow Freeney down a bit because I'm not sure Bushrod can handle his speed, I know he can handle his power but not sure on his speed. Our LB corp has to do a better job on covering the TE. Dallas Clark will tear us up if we cover him as poorly as we did against Shanicoe. I believe Porter and Greer can cover Garcon and Wayne and put Gay on Collie. Offensively I believe we can handle Indy provided that Payton and Brees are patient enough to take what the Colts cover2 allows. The Colts do change their packages and Brees is smart enough to change the play at the right time to catch them in the wrong coverage. Running will be tough but we do need to run the ball to keep them biting on play action. If we settle down and come out like the Saints we know we can be we win this game 38-24.

Jabba · 01-27-2010, 11:02 AM

From a Colts fan perspective...

The Colts pass defense is WAY tough. It has been all year. They give up very few big plays, and lead the league I believe in TD Passes allowed. They also have only given up 2 TD's off of turnovers all year, and one of those was the sack/fumble against the Jets after they pulled the starters. The defense only allowed the NFL's BEST rushing offense 86 yards last week. Sure the Saints are more balanced. granted... but the Colts Defense was #8 in the league for points allowed. And they are really stingy in the red zone.

No one can cover the Colts receiver corps man to man down the line. Sure Darrell Revis covered Wayne... but the other guys lit them up. LB's have a REAL tough time covering Clark. He's too fast for LB's and too big for most BD's. Then there is Garcon and Collie. Both had great seasons, and are on page with Peyton, and all are playing with a lot of confidence. Not to mention the RB out of thebackfield, all of which are pretty good receivers too.

The Vikings tougher than the Colts? Please. the Colts were 14-2 and THREW away their shot at perfection. They simply tossed it away against the Jets, then again vs the Bills. They did that in the BEST division in the NFL (AFC South - check the stats if you doubt me).

I like the Saints. They surely are not the Ain't anymore. I like Drew Brees, I mean he's from Purdue after all. The Saints got a good shot. The Colts are gonna have to bring it, no doubt. But, I solidly believe the oddsmakers have it right with the Colts as the favorite.

Either way... a great organization will win. Congrats to everyone involved.

Jabba

strato · 01-27-2010, 11:11 AM

The only thing that scares me about this Colts team is P.M...We have an equal passing game..better run game...way more physical D..and better special teams..Only way we lose is if we beat ourselves...We get after cookie boy and we take this game...Yes Indy has a fast D...but our offense is way more physical than the Jets ...Im thinking positive and seeing things for what they are...Dont let the talking heads..fool you.... we match up well with the My Ponies...The Texans should have beat them twice this year.. but they are way to mistake happy were not ..so bring on Cookie boy..Mr McCray has something to say!!!

AsylumGuido · 01-27-2010, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Jabba

From a Colts fan perspective...

The Colts pass defense is WAY tough. It has been all year. They give up very few big plays, and lead the league I believe in TD Passes allowed. They also have only given up 2 TD's off of turnovers all year, and one of those was the sack/fumble against the Jets after they pulled the starters. The defense only allowed the NFL's BEST rushing offense 86 yards last week. Sure the Saints are more balanced. granted... but the Colts Defense was #8 in the league for points allowed. And they are really stingy in the red zone.

No one can cover the Colts receiver corps man to man down the line. Sure Darrell Revis covered Wayne... but the other guys lit them up. LB's have a REAL tough time covering Clark. He's too fast for LB's and too big for most BD's. Then there is Garcon and Collie. Both had great seasons, and are on page with Peyton, and all are playing with a lot of confidence. Not to mention the RB out of thebackfield, all of which are pretty good receivers too.

The Vikings tougher than the Colts? Please. the Colts were 14-2 and THREW away their shot at perfection. They simply tossed it away against the Jets, then again vs the Bills. They did that in the BEST division in the NFL (AFC South - check the stats if you doubt me).

I like the Saints. They surely are not the Ain't anymore. I like Drew Brees, I mean he's from Purdue after all. The Saints got a good shot. The Colts are gonna have to bring it, no doubt. But, I solidly believe the oddsmakers have it right with the Colts as the favorite.

Either way... a great organization will win. Congrats to everyone involved.

Jabba

Actually, the Colts finished the regular season ranked in a four way tie for fewest passing TD's allowed (19) with Dallas, Washington and Houston. The Saints, on the other hand, finished the season in solo possession of 5th place in the rankings with 15 TD's allowed. One important point to note is that only ONE of those 15 came against CB's Jabari Greer and Tracy Porter (64 yarder by Roddy White on a push off that was not called). Greer and Porter missed a combined 12 games.

As for red zone stinginess, the Colts were tied for 12th with Carolina for Opponents Red Zone Scoring Percentage (ORZSP) at 50%. The Saints were ranked 3rd in the NFL at ORZSP at 42.2%.

01-27-2010, 10:02 AM	#1
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Alright guys it is Wednesday- We have enjoyed (and will continue to enjoy) the win, but lets start talking Colts. Do you think we can win, and if so, if not -why? I do, and I think we can because their D is not as good as Minny's, and I do not think they have the level of threats on O that Minny does. Their running game to be specific, and at the best they have an = amount. I think our defense is better than theirs, and if we protect the ball (and can handle being in the SB) we can win this game. I believe that Indy played two teams with a one dimensional Offense, and are yet to have to stop an O like ours. I also think we played a team better than they are this past week. Anyway- what do you guys think??
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01-27-2010, 10:11 AM	#2
JoanieNTX 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 825	Re: Alright guys it is Wednesday- I think we win if we show up. If Drew comes out with confidence, and the receivers stop "dropping" the balls! Yes, we caught some good passes Sunday against the Vikes, but we also dropped some key ones. I think our defense really rose to the occasion Sunday, and if they have just ONE MORE WEEK like that....forcing turnovers, etc., then we win. I think a whole lot of it is mental, and the guys are gonna have to find a way to calm their nerves and play ball!

01-27-2010, 10:24 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Alright guys it is Wednesday- Originally Posted by JoanieNTX I think we win if we show up. If Drew comes out with confidence, and the receivers stop "dropping" the balls! Yes, we caught some good passes Sunday against the Vikes, but we also dropped some key ones. I think our defense really rose to the occasion Sunday, and if they have just ONE MORE WEEK like that....forcing turnovers, etc., then we win. I think a whole lot of it is mental, and the guys are gonna have to find a way to calm their nerves and play ball! An interesting point to note has been raised many times over the years by players that have made it to the Super Bowl. To a man they have all said that the pressure felt in the Conference Championship game was many times greater than that experienced in the Super Bowl. I feel the lack of the normal sharpness that we saw against the Vikings was a direct affect of the added pressure. The Saints had everything to lose this past Sunday. They had made the Championship game just four years earlier, but fell short of the Big One. The pressure was on and they struggled with penalties, dropped balls and tentative passing. But, they won and now the pressure is off. It is all gravy now. Now is the time to go out and have fun. I think we are going to see the Saints clicking on all cylinders both offensively and defensively.

01-27-2010, 10:27 AM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Alright guys it is Wednesday- Personally, if you asked me which team I'd prefer to play for all the marbles, Vikings or Colts, I probably pick the Colts. The Vikings are built exactly like teams that we've struggled with since Brees/Payton arrived. We just barely got past the physical smashmouth team, now we face a team I think we match up much better against. As far as playing against these 2009 Saints, I think the Vikings were a tougher draw than the Colts will be.

01-27-2010, 10:33 AM	#5
reggie060 Registered Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ATL Posts: 60	Re: Alright guys it is Wednesday- Originally Posted by Danno Personally, if you asked me which team I'd prefer to play for all the marbles, Vikings or Colts, I probably pick the Colts. The Vikings are built exactly like teams that we've struggled with since Brees/Payton arrived. We just barely got past the physical smashmouth team, now we face a team I think we match up much better against. As far as playing against these 2009 Saints, I think the Vikings were a tougher draw than the Colts will be. that true.. I think we got out of our game plan... A few 3rd and 1's and 2's for -yards. Those are the game changers

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Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Alright guys it is Wednesday- The Colts defense is a little under rated. Now hopefully this ankle injury will slow Freeney down a bit because I'm not sure Bushrod can handle his speed, I know he can handle his power but not sure on his speed. Our LB corp has to do a better job on covering the TE. Dallas Clark will tear us up if we cover him as poorly as we did against Shanicoe. I believe Porter and Greer can cover Garcon and Wayne and put Gay on Collie. Offensively I believe we can handle Indy provided that Payton and Brees are patient enough to take what the Colts cover2 allows. The Colts do change their packages and Brees is smart enough to change the play at the right time to catch them in the wrong coverage. Running will be tough but we do need to run the ball to keep them biting on play action. If we settle down and come out like the Saints we know we can be we win this game 38-24.

01-27-2010, 11:02 AM	#8
Jabba Registered Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 41	Re: Alright guys it is Wednesday- From a Colts fan perspective... The Colts pass defense is WAY tough. It has been all year. They give up very few big plays, and lead the league I believe in TD Passes allowed. They also have only given up 2 TD's off of turnovers all year, and one of those was the sack/fumble against the Jets after they pulled the starters. The defense only allowed the NFL's BEST rushing offense 86 yards last week. Sure the Saints are more balanced. granted... but the Colts Defense was #8 in the league for points allowed. And they are really stingy in the red zone. No one can cover the Colts receiver corps man to man down the line. Sure Darrell Revis covered Wayne... but the other guys lit them up. LB's have a REAL tough time covering Clark. He's too fast for LB's and too big for most BD's. Then there is Garcon and Collie. Both had great seasons, and are on page with Peyton, and all are playing with a lot of confidence. Not to mention the RB out of thebackfield, all of which are pretty good receivers too. The Vikings tougher than the Colts? Please. the Colts were 14-2 and THREW away their shot at perfection. They simply tossed it away against the Jets, then again vs the Bills. They did that in the BEST division in the NFL (AFC South - check the stats if you doubt me). I like the Saints. They surely are not the Ain't anymore. I like Drew Brees, I mean he's from Purdue after all. The Saints got a good shot. The Colts are gonna have to bring it, no doubt. But, I solidly believe the oddsmakers have it right with the Colts as the favorite. Either way... a great organization will win. Congrats to everyone involved. Jabba
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01-27-2010, 11:11 AM	#9
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Alright guys it is Wednesday- The only thing that scares me about this Colts team is P.M...We have an equal passing game..better run game...way more physical D..and better special teams..Only way we lose is if we beat ourselves...We get after cookie boy and we take this game...Yes Indy has a fast D...but our offense is way more physical than the Jets ...Im thinking positive and seeing things for what they are...Dont let the talking heads..fool you.... we match up well with the My Ponies...The Texans should have beat them twice this year.. but they are way to mistake happy were not ..so bring on Cookie boy..Mr McCray has something to say!!!
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01-27-2010, 11:21 AM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Alright guys it is Wednesday- Originally Posted by Jabba From a Colts fan perspective... The Colts pass defense is WAY tough. It has been all year. They give up very few big plays, and lead the league I believe in TD Passes allowed. They also have only given up 2 TD's off of turnovers all year, and one of those was the sack/fumble against the Jets after they pulled the starters. The defense only allowed the NFL's BEST rushing offense 86 yards last week. Sure the Saints are more balanced. granted... but the Colts Defense was #8 in the league for points allowed. And they are really stingy in the red zone. No one can cover the Colts receiver corps man to man down the line. Sure Darrell Revis covered Wayne... but the other guys lit them up. LB's have a REAL tough time covering Clark. He's too fast for LB's and too big for most BD's. Then there is Garcon and Collie. Both had great seasons, and are on page with Peyton, and all are playing with a lot of confidence. Not to mention the RB out of thebackfield, all of which are pretty good receivers too. The Vikings tougher than the Colts? Please. the Colts were 14-2 and THREW away their shot at perfection. They simply tossed it away against the Jets, then again vs the Bills. They did that in the BEST division in the NFL (AFC South - check the stats if you doubt me). I like the Saints. They surely are not the Ain't anymore. I like Drew Brees, I mean he's from Purdue after all. The Saints got a good shot. The Colts are gonna have to bring it, no doubt. But, I solidly believe the oddsmakers have it right with the Colts as the favorite. Either way... a great organization will win. Congrats to everyone involved. Jabba Actually, the Colts finished the regular season ranked in a four way tie for fewest passing TD's allowed (19) with Dallas, Washington and Houston. The Saints, on the other hand, finished the season in solo possession of 5th place in the rankings with 15 TD's allowed. One important point to note is that only ONE of those 15 came against CB's Jabari Greer and Tracy Porter (64 yarder by Roddy White on a push off that was not called). Greer and Porter missed a combined 12 games. As for red zone stinginess, the Colts were tied for 12th with Carolina for Opponents Red Zone Scoring Percentage (ORZSP) at 50%. The Saints were ranked 3rd in the NFL at ORZSP at 42.2%.