Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning
 

Written by Mike Florio - During their march through the playoffs, the New Orleans Saints have battered and bruised (and nearly broken) two future Hall of Fame quarterbacks -- Kurt Warner of the Cardinals and Brett Favre of the Vikings.

They're now setting their sights on a third man whose oversized forehead eventually will be memorialized in bronze.

Defensive coordinator Gregg Williams recently told a Nashville radio station that the Saints plan to rattle Colts quarterback Peyton Manning by hitting him whenever they can, and that the goal is to knock him out of the game.

"This guy's got a great clock in his head," Williams told 104.5 The Zone, via ESPN.com. "The big thing is that he throws the ball so early that we're going to have to do a good job of finding ways to get to him and when we do get to him we're going to have to make sure he gets a couple 'remember me' shots when we get there."



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I love how we are now a dirty team cause we possibly put 2 HOF QBs into retirement. While the high/lo hit probably should have been called. the low hit was started by an obvious push the back that wasn't called.

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As a Colts fan, I really hope that he tries. That is exactly the wrong way to defend us. Manning has seen Gregg Williams defenses before. Hell, he was in our division. We've already played the Ravens and Jets defenses in the playoffs. Gregg Williams isn't going to figure out how to effectively pressure Manning and, more, Gregg Williams knows this.

The best way to play us is to keep everything underneath and make us drive the field by picking up 4 or 5 first downs. We can do that too, but it's alot easier to screw something up and sometimes Manning isn't patient enough to not take a deep shot even when it's not there.

If you're blitzing us, two things will happen:

1. 90% of the time you won't get to Manning anyway. If, by chance, someone misses a protection, Manning just lays down so you won't be getting these big hits anyway. Check our last 2 games. 3 times when protection was blown, Manning sees it and lays down before the defender even touches him.

2. There will be receivers open downfield.

Gregg Williams knows this. I think he's just blowing smoke to try to make the Colts plan for the wrong thing. I'm not sure it's an effective strategy but Manning calls everything at the line of scrimmage anyway so everything will be determined at that time no matter what they think is coming beforehand.

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I'm going to say this, and flamers come on when I do, I don't like ANY of these special rules for QBs, and I will tell you why. He laces his shoes up, the exact same way, that a DB on special teams does, and you don't see anybody crying when that guy gets knocked out of a game. I love Drew Brees, I do, but I understand that he knew what he was getting into, when he played Pop Warner. He had MAJOR shoulder surgery, and wasn't even projected to play again, but he came back, and I haven't heard one cry baby word out of him about it. You know why? Because he's a man, and he knows that it comes with the territory.

I don't agree with SAYING in the media, that you are going to try and take someone out. That just creates controversy, and hippies coming out of the woodworks, trying to ban the sport.

If you want a sport, where everyone dances around, and loves each other, try figure skating, or gymnastics. This is a man's game, be a man, or sit in the stands.

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I have noticed this from Manning. Although this probably loses more yards than necessary it sure saves him from some big hits. If the Saints can do either it should rattle him a bit though.

The Saints are a fast defense that likes to bring pressure from unknown places. I don't expect them to change now. Much different from the Ravens or Jets who are big physical type defenses that just punch you in the mouth.

If anyone can handle it Peyton can. We'll see how nervous he is after watching the last two Saints games. It should be FUN.

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Completely agree. Also agree Williams needs to watch how he says things. No need for bulletin board material. Though the media is given the SAINTS D so much bulletin board stuff it's not going to matter. Win or lose we will play hard and hit hard until the end.

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lol one of the greaters boxers in history, roberto duran was asked in one of the first live interviews what he says when people ask him what he does for a living..

his response......"I knock mother f***ers out"

thats what our defense does

we werent supposed to get to kurt warner.....we hurt him

we werent supposed to get to brett favre......we hurt him

we arent supposed to get to peyton manning.......we will see

http://images.smh.com.au/2010/01/25/...avre-420x0.jpg

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It would appear the Nation is divided.

There is the Who Dat Nation and those who whine about football being too rough. I'm not really referring to anyone in this thread, to be clear.

Unbelievable. I'd call them pansy douchebags but I am trying to make an effort to tone down stuff.

Manning can't be accurate with his pants on the ground.

Lest ye forget we pummeled Favre bean 16 times? Fairly constant body blows are actully worse than a sack now and then if'n ya think about it.

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Start by never typing the word douchebag again. hahaha....had to say it. No hard feelings.

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Yea, i was trying to bring humor. Guess it didn't work.

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Not to start anything, but bro, you just said the exact same thing a few of the Vikings, and the Cards fans said in here, a few weeks ago. I agree that Manning is not Favre, or Warner, but he isn't the most "mobile" QB in the league either. He makes mistakes, just like everybody else. I like Manning, and I think he's a great QB, but he can be gotten too just the same.

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And you guys are saying the exact same things we've heard from the Jets, the Ravens, and a few other more highly-ranked defenses that are better known for bringing pressure. You know how many of those teams have exploited Peyton and beaten us this year?

Also, you won't be playing at home. I think that's a HUGE factor that both sides need to factor in when projecting their defensive performance from the past 2 games. We've stuffed 2 pretty good running teams at home the past 2 weeks but I'm not foolish enough to project that against the Saints because we're not at home and you've got a QB to go with your running game to keep us honest.

I've picked the Saints to win, but it's because of your offense, and more specifically, being more balanced than we are. If Williams decides to try to blitz us, and I do believe this is a big IF because I don't believe that's what he really intends to do, I do believe we would win.

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You know how the media keeps saying the Colts have only lost games they didn't want to win this year? Well the Saints only lost on the road once, and we played our backups for most of it. So we're OK with going on the road. Turf or grass.

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That's right, psycho. We ONLY lost the one road game and it was a practice game for those that never get to play and an opportunity to try different plays to see how they might work. Even at that game, and I was there, our bench played well and the Saints were only beaten by 13 pts. I'm betting that the Saints will have the advantage at the "Away" game. Saints fan til I die!

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I would like for Payton to show the team the total a$$-wiping that Peyton gave the Saints, I think it was on Monday night a few years back...they put up over half-a-hundred on us...if I remember it right. It wasn't pretty. Could be pretty inspirtational...or demoralizing. Nevermind.

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It's irrelevant honestly. Not the same offense - we've added Shockey, PT, D. Thomas, Meach, and Henderson is a completely different receiver.

And our D is a completely different squad all together.

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I know all that...but I was thinking it might be a favor we'd like to return...but I wouldn't want them to all the sudden have "the fear of God" when it comes to Peyton...so, that's why I said nevermind.

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I like the board over on NBC, where this story is posted. How all of these guys who "were on the Saints bandwagon, are now off, because we are dirty players." Are you serious? Most of them Vikings fans of course.

IF, any of those hits on Favre would have been considered malicious, then guess what, the refs would have thrown said player, out of the freaking game. I've seen it happen before, so obviously, they weren't considered that bad.

Some other guy rants on about how, he has always thought that refs calls in the superdome were "suspect". Suspect? Yeah, I guess all those 3-13 seasons we had, really showed the rest of the league, how the refs favor us at home huh?

One superbowl under our belts, almost, and now we are not only dirty players, with cheating coaches, but we also have the refs in our back pockets, when we play at home. Wow. There are some reaaaally stupid people watching football huh?

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Oh yeah, and real quick from one of our Saints staticians, how many years, have the Saints been in the top five, of MOST PENALIZED TEAMS IN THE LEAGUE?

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McCray is making a name for himself.."The Quarterback Killer"..lol

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I would just like to point out, once again....Our defense is not ranked up there with your other "elite" defenses due to one reason. We had too many key injuries early on....corners out...etc. Otherwise, we'd be ranked much higher. So our defensive 'standing' is a little misleading, because we are healthy once again. But......that's ok if you want to overlook us. ;) We got no problem with that!

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So you think you'd be better than the Jets if you had them all year?

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The Saints D is already better at causing turnovers than the Jets. Does that count? :D

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Yes. I do. If I remember correctly, the Jets were on what, on a 5 or 6 game win streak, when we destroyed them.

Our defense was in the top ten against the run, and against the pass, before Greer, and Porter went down. You can check that out. They are the most underrated corners in the league by far.

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I think the point is that a home crowd can really help the defense and we've seen that the past two weeks with both the Colts and Saints. I doubt either defense will perform nearly as well on a neutral field as they did at home.

You guys are acting as if having the tremendous homefield advantage at the Superdome meant nothing in your ability to apply pressure on Kurt Warner or Brett Favre. I think it had alot to do with it. It's because of that, and the fact that the Colts give up the fewest sacks in the league, that I believe you trying to pressure Manning is pointless. In fact, I welcome it because it's less guys in coverage.

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Ummmmm, yeahhhhh! We already beat the Jets once this year in a big way, dude. Stats can be very misleading. Don't say you didn't hear it here, k?

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I wonder how much of this is smoke and mirrors- try to rattle PM B4 even hitting the field. I wonder if we will show a lot of blitz then drop back in coverage or vary it up. Probably the latter, but interesting to guess at

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You remember incorrectly. They were 3-0 and they kept your offense out of the endzone until late in the 4th quarter. You won because of 2 turnovers returned for touchdowns.

You are better than the Jets but they have the better defense and it doesn't matter if you guys are missing anyone or at full strength.

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Like I said, you beat the Jets but they kept YOUR offense, the best in the league, without a touchdown until late in the fourth quarter. Their defense is better than yours and it's not really even a debate for anyone that's being honest with themselves.

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As far as road games....the Saints have always been a pretty good road team. I know Sean has said that he likes away games sometimes because he has an easier time eliminating distractions. So....we'll see!

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Okay- I give you that that their D is better, but their offense is like a men to boys scenario. That would be with us being the men. Both teams you played had limited passing attacks. Good luck competing against an offense that does both well. Does that mean we are going to win this game- of course not, but to pretend that beating the Jets and Ravens is the same as beating us- ummm okay- hope your team feels the same way.

We played a team as good as the Colts in my opinion. This game comes down to running the ball and defense- I like our chances in both areas. That said this game will be extremely extremely tough- for both teams, but I hope everyone keeps counting us out. Just the way I like it.

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The point I am trying to make is, with healthy corners, even on the road, we got pressure, on pretty much every team we played, on the road. Now, WITHOUT, our starting corners, against the Patriots, we shut down both of their star receivers, and teed off on Brady. I will give the TE edge to the Colts, but I wouldn't say Collier is better than Wes Welker. You take Collier out, in one on one, and that leaves Clark, and Wayne, or Addai, but our defense has been known to shut down offenses like this before.

I am not jumping any guns here, believe me. I reallize that the Colts are a great team, and this will be a great test for us, no doubt. Just comparing teams, that's all.

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I do give a huge edge to the Colts having been there before... Hopefully SP having been there with the Giants will help a lot

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You are completely mis-representing what I've said. In fact, I have picked the Saints to win because of the balance of your offense compared to ours.

However, I think many here are completely delusional about your defense and their ability to get after Manning. My only comparisons to the Jets and Ravens were not in terms of a complete team, but in terms of their defensive units. Many here are confidently predicting the Saints defense to do things that those two better defensive units were not able to do. I really do hope that Gregg Williams does what he said he was going to try to do. That is when Manning is at his best and it opens up alot of things downfield.

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I stand corrected. It was a long time ago.

I would also point out, the best game, in my opinion, to compare the Colts, and the Saints, would be the Patriots game. They were both played at home for both teams. If we were going to gauge both offenses, and defenses.

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That New England comparison is fine except for you're leaving out the entire pass protection element of both offenses. The Patriots, in 2009, were not even in the same league as the Colts in terms of protecting the quarterback. Not even close.

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The only one who is delusional is you. You act like Manning can't be touched. Whatever.

That is what the fans of the Pats, Jets, Cards, Vikes and other
teams said this season. They were mistaken just like you are.

Ask Warner and Favre bean how that worked out for them.

After our defense plants Manning's arse in the ground are you gonna
come back like the VyQueen fans and whine about how tough our
D is? Say it ain't so.

The trick is to admit it when you are wrong. Then you won't be so deluded. See you after the game in this thread. We shall see whose
pants are on the ground.

Defense wins championships. ALL that matters here is who Manning faces, not the Jets / Saints comparisons.

All these folks who say... "the other team would have one IF" are the delusional people. Period. No debate.

Would you care to back up that mouth with a wager? I usually go about a grand per bet. You up for that?

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OK. If you want to judge based on your best performance and one of our worst, that's up to you. I would pick the Rams game as a common-opponent measuring stick if it were up to me and it would be just as pointless. How each team matches up against any 3rd opponent is irrelevant and that has been proven over and over, in almost every sport, time and time again.

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Yes. If the Saints sack Manning twice and win the game I will donate $100 to Haiti. I don't even care if you put up anything against it.

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I got your back 100% to compare Manning or Brees to Nameth, Marino, Elway, Unitas, Montana, Starbach, hell just look at Bradshaws mug, he is proof they got hit hard .... Your comparing apples to oranges.

Those quarterback played a different game under a different set of rules. Receivers could get hit as long as the ball was not in the air, QB's got hit period.... QB's were head hunted...