Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning

strato · 01-28-2010, 08:08 AM

Written by Mike Florio - During their march through the playoffs, the New Orleans Saints have battered and bruised (and nearly broken) two future Hall of Fame quarterbacks -- Kurt Warner of the Cardinals and Brett Favre of the Vikings.

They're now setting their sights on a third man whose oversized forehead eventually will be memorialized in bronze.

Defensive coordinator Gregg Williams recently told a Nashville radio station that the Saints plan to rattle Colts quarterback Peyton Manning by hitting him whenever they can, and that the goal is to knock him out of the game.

"This guy's got a great clock in his head," Williams told 104.5 The Zone, via ESPN.com. "The big thing is that he throws the ball so early that we're going to have to do a good job of finding ways to get to him and when we do get to him we're going to have to make sure he gets a couple 'remember me' shots when we get there."

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Sir Psycho Sexy · 01-28-2010, 08:53 AM

I love how we are now a dirty team cause we possibly put 2 HOF QBs into retirement. While the high/lo hit probably should have been called. the low hit was started by an obvious push the back that wasn't called.

braggbro1 · 01-28-2010, 09:05 AM

As a Colts fan, I really hope that he tries. That is exactly the wrong way to defend us. Manning has seen Gregg Williams defenses before. Hell, he was in our division. We've already played the Ravens and Jets defenses in the playoffs. Gregg Williams isn't going to figure out how to effectively pressure Manning and, more, Gregg Williams knows this.

The best way to play us is to keep everything underneath and make us drive the field by picking up 4 or 5 first downs. We can do that too, but it's alot easier to screw something up and sometimes Manning isn't patient enough to not take a deep shot even when it's not there.

If you're blitzing us, two things will happen:

1. 90% of the time you won't get to Manning anyway. If, by chance, someone misses a protection, Manning just lays down so you won't be getting these big hits anyway. Check our last 2 games. 3 times when protection was blown, Manning sees it and lays down before the defender even touches him.

2. There will be receivers open downfield.

Gregg Williams knows this. I think he's just blowing smoke to try to make the Colts plan for the wrong thing. I'm not sure it's an effective strategy but Manning calls everything at the line of scrimmage anyway so everything will be determined at that time no matter what they think is coming beforehand.

exile · 01-28-2010, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by braggbro1

1. 90% of the time you won't get to Manning anyway. If, by chance, someone misses a protection, Manning just lays down so you won't be getting these big hits anyway.

I have noticed this from Manning. Although this probably loses more yards than necessary it sure saves him from some big hits. If the Saints can do either it should rattle him a bit though.

The Saints are a fast defense that likes to bring pressure from unknown places. I don't expect them to change now. Much different from the Ravens or Jets who are big physical type defenses that just punch you in the mouth.

If anyone can handle it Peyton can. We'll see how nervous he is after watching the last two Saints games. It should be FUN.

SaintPauly · 01-28-2010, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by braggbro1

As a Colts fan, I really hope that he tries. That is exactly the wrong way to defend us. Manning has seen Gregg Williams defenses before. Hell, he was in our division. We've already played the Ravens and Jets defenses in the playoffs. Gregg Williams isn't going to figure out how to effectively pressure Manning and, more, Gregg Williams knows this.

The best way to play us is to keep everything underneath and make us drive the field by picking up 4 or 5 first downs. We can do that too, but it's alot easier to screw something up and sometimes Manning isn't patient enough to not take a deep shot even when it's not there.

If you're blitzing us, two things will happen:

1. 90% of the time you won't get to Manning anyway. If, by chance, someone misses a protection, Manning just lays down so you won't be getting these big hits anyway. Check our last 2 games. 3 times when protection was blown, Manning sees it and lays down before the defender even touches him.

2. There will be receivers open downfield.

Gregg Williams knows this. I think he's just blowing smoke to try to make the Colts plan for the wrong thing. I'm not sure it's an effective strategy but Manning calls everything at the line of scrimmage anyway so everything will be determined at that time no matter what they think is coming beforehand.

Not to start anything, but bro, you just said the exact same thing a few of the Vikings, and the Cards fans said in here, a few weeks ago. I agree that Manning is not Favre, or Warner, but he isn't the most "mobile" QB in the league either. He makes mistakes, just like everybody else. I like Manning, and I think he's a great QB, but he can be gotten too just the same.

braggbro1 · 01-28-2010, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

Not to start anything, but bro, you just said the exact same thing a few of the Vikings, and the Cards fans said in here, a few weeks ago. I agree that Manning is not Favre, or Warner, but he isn't the most "mobile" QB in the league either. He makes mistakes, just like everybody else. I like Manning, and I think he's a great QB, but he can be gotten too just the same.

And you guys are saying the exact same things we've heard from the Jets, the Ravens, and a few other more highly-ranked defenses that are better known for bringing pressure. You know how many of those teams have exploited Peyton and beaten us this year?

Also, you won't be playing at home. I think that's a HUGE factor that both sides need to factor in when projecting their defensive performance from the past 2 games. We've stuffed 2 pretty good running teams at home the past 2 weeks but I'm not foolish enough to project that against the Saints because we're not at home and you've got a QB to go with your running game to keep us honest.

I've picked the Saints to win, but it's because of your offense, and more specifically, being more balanced than we are. If Williams decides to try to blitz us, and I do believe this is a big IF because I don't believe that's what he really intends to do, I do believe we would win.

Sir Psycho Sexy · 01-28-2010, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by braggbro1

And you guys are saying the exact same things we've heard from the Jets, the Ravens, and a few other more highly-ranked defenses that are better known for bringing pressure. You know how many of those teams have exploited Peyton and beaten us this year?

Also, you won't be playing at home. I think that's a HUGE factor that both sides need to factor in when projecting their defensive performance from the past 2 games. We've stuffed 2 pretty good running teams at home the past 2 weeks but I'm not foolish enough to project that against the Saints because we're not at home and you've got a QB to go with your running game to keep us honest.

I've picked the Saints to win, but it's because of your offense, and more specifically, being more balanced than we are. If Williams decides to try to blitz us, and I do believe this is a big IF because I don't believe that's what he really intends to do, I do believe we would win.

You know how the media keeps saying the Colts have only lost games they didn't want to win this year? Well the Saints only lost on the road once, and we played our backups for most of it. So we're OK with going on the road. Turf or grass.

braggbro1 · 01-28-2010, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by Sir Psycho Sexy

You know how the media keeps saying the Colts have only lost games they didn't want to win this year? Well the Saints only lost on the road once, and we played our backups for most of it. So we're OK with going on the road. Turf or grass.

I think the point is that a home crowd can really help the defense and we've seen that the past two weeks with both the Colts and Saints. I doubt either defense will perform nearly as well on a neutral field as they did at home.

You guys are acting as if having the tremendous homefield advantage at the Superdome meant nothing in your ability to apply pressure on Kurt Warner or Brett Favre. I think it had alot to do with it. It's because of that, and the fact that the Colts give up the fewest sacks in the league, that I believe you trying to pressure Manning is pointless. In fact, I welcome it because it's less guys in coverage.

SaintPez · 01-30-2010, 12:00 PM

I dont see anywhere where williams stated he wants to put peyton out of the game. You colts fans think when freeney and mathis get to Drew that they are bringing a box of chocolates and flowers? This is football. Crushing QBs is what all defenses want to do. Williams stated peyton is the man, and we gotta hit him hard when we can get to him. whats cheap about that? whats dirty about that?
Again the media controlling people with tiny brains....

SaintPauly · 01-28-2010, 09:12 AM

I'm going to say this, and flamers come on when I do, I don't like ANY of these special rules for QBs, and I will tell you why. He laces his shoes up, the exact same way, that a DB on special teams does, and you don't see anybody crying when that guy gets knocked out of a game. I love Drew Brees, I do, but I understand that he knew what he was getting into, when he played Pop Warner. He had MAJOR shoulder surgery, and wasn't even projected to play again, but he came back, and I haven't heard one cry baby word out of him about it. You know why? Because he's a man, and he knows that it comes with the territory.

I don't agree with SAYING in the media, that you are going to try and take someone out. That just creates controversy, and hippies coming out of the woodworks, trying to ban the sport.

If you want a sport, where everyone dances around, and loves each other, try figure skating, or gymnastics. This is a man's game, be a man, or sit in the stands.

01-28-2010, 08:08 AM	#1
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning Written by Mike Florio - During their march through the playoffs, the New Orleans Saints have battered and bruised (and nearly broken) two future Hall of Fame quarterbacks -- Kurt Warner of the Cardinals and Brett Favre of the Vikings. They're now setting their sights on a third man whose oversized forehead eventually will be memorialized in bronze. Defensive coordinator Gregg Williams recently told a Nashville radio station that the Saints plan to rattle Colts quarterback Peyton Manning by hitting him whenever they can, and that the goal is to knock him out of the game. "This guy's got a great clock in his head," Williams told 104.5 The Zone, via ESPN.com. "The big thing is that he throws the ball so early that we're going to have to do a good job of finding ways to get to him and when we do get to him we're going to have to make sure he gets a couple 'remember me' shots when we get there." read the rest Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning \| ProFootballTalk.com
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01-28-2010, 08:53 AM	#2
Sir Psycho Sexy Moderator Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA - Behind enemy lines. Someone throw me a grenade!! Posts: 941	Re: Article: Looks like were gonna come after Manning I love how we are now a dirty team cause we possibly put 2 HOF QBs into retirement. While the high/lo hit probably should have been called. the low hit was started by an obvious push the back that wasn't called.

01-28-2010, 09:05 AM	#3
braggbro1 Registered Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 55	Re: Article: Looks like were gonna come after Manning As a Colts fan, I really hope that he tries. That is exactly the wrong way to defend us. Manning has seen Gregg Williams defenses before. Hell, he was in our division. We've already played the Ravens and Jets defenses in the playoffs. Gregg Williams isn't going to figure out how to effectively pressure Manning and, more, Gregg Williams knows this. The best way to play us is to keep everything underneath and make us drive the field by picking up 4 or 5 first downs. We can do that too, but it's alot easier to screw something up and sometimes Manning isn't patient enough to not take a deep shot even when it's not there. If you're blitzing us, two things will happen: 1. 90% of the time you won't get to Manning anyway. If, by chance, someone misses a protection, Manning just lays down so you won't be getting these big hits anyway. Check our last 2 games. 3 times when protection was blown, Manning sees it and lays down before the defender even touches him. 2. There will be receivers open downfield. Gregg Williams knows this. I think he's just blowing smoke to try to make the Colts plan for the wrong thing. I'm not sure it's an effective strategy but Manning calls everything at the line of scrimmage anyway so everything will be determined at that time no matter what they think is coming beforehand.
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01-28-2010, 09:22 AM	#4
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: Article: Looks like were gonna come after Manning Originally Posted by braggbro1 1. 90% of the time you won't get to Manning anyway. If, by chance, someone misses a protection, Manning just lays down so you won't be getting these big hits anyway. I have noticed this from Manning. Although this probably loses more yards than necessary it sure saves him from some big hits. If the Saints can do either it should rattle him a bit though. The Saints are a fast defense that likes to bring pressure from unknown places. I don't expect them to change now. Much different from the Ravens or Jets who are big physical type defenses that just punch you in the mouth. If anyone can handle it Peyton can. We'll see how nervous he is after watching the last two Saints games. It should be FUN.
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01-28-2010, 10:06 AM	#5
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Article: Looks like were gonna come after Manning Originally Posted by braggbro1 As a Colts fan, I really hope that he tries. That is exactly the wrong way to defend us. Manning has seen Gregg Williams defenses before. Hell, he was in our division. We've already played the Ravens and Jets defenses in the playoffs. Gregg Williams isn't going to figure out how to effectively pressure Manning and, more, Gregg Williams knows this. The best way to play us is to keep everything underneath and make us drive the field by picking up 4 or 5 first downs. We can do that too, but it's alot easier to screw something up and sometimes Manning isn't patient enough to not take a deep shot even when it's not there. If you're blitzing us, two things will happen: 1. 90% of the time you won't get to Manning anyway. If, by chance, someone misses a protection, Manning just lays down so you won't be getting these big hits anyway. Check our last 2 games. 3 times when protection was blown, Manning sees it and lays down before the defender even touches him. 2. There will be receivers open downfield. Gregg Williams knows this. I think he's just blowing smoke to try to make the Colts plan for the wrong thing. I'm not sure it's an effective strategy but Manning calls everything at the line of scrimmage anyway so everything will be determined at that time no matter what they think is coming beforehand. Not to start anything, but bro, you just said the exact same thing a few of the Vikings, and the Cards fans said in here, a few weeks ago. I agree that Manning is not Favre, or Warner, but he isn't the most "mobile" QB in the league either. He makes mistakes, just like everybody else. I like Manning, and I think he's a great QB, but he can be gotten too just the same.

01-28-2010, 10:18 AM	#6
braggbro1 Registered Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 55	Re: Article: Looks like were gonna come after Manning Originally Posted by saintpaul25 Not to start anything, but bro, you just said the exact same thing a few of the Vikings, and the Cards fans said in here, a few weeks ago. I agree that Manning is not Favre, or Warner, but he isn't the most "mobile" QB in the league either. He makes mistakes, just like everybody else. I like Manning, and I think he's a great QB, but he can be gotten too just the same. And you guys are saying the exact same things we've heard from the Jets, the Ravens, and a few other more highly-ranked defenses that are better known for bringing pressure. You know how many of those teams have exploited Peyton and beaten us this year? Also, you won't be playing at home. I think that's a HUGE factor that both sides need to factor in when projecting their defensive performance from the past 2 games. We've stuffed 2 pretty good running teams at home the past 2 weeks but I'm not foolish enough to project that against the Saints because we're not at home and you've got a QB to go with your running game to keep us honest. I've picked the Saints to win, but it's because of your offense, and more specifically, being more balanced than we are. If Williams decides to try to blitz us, and I do believe this is a big IF because I don't believe that's what he really intends to do, I do believe we would win.
braggbro1 Registered Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 55

01-28-2010, 10:27 AM	#7
Sir Psycho Sexy Moderator Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA - Behind enemy lines. Someone throw me a grenade!! Posts: 941	Re: Article: Looks like were gonna come after Manning Originally Posted by braggbro1 And you guys are saying the exact same things we've heard from the Jets, the Ravens, and a few other more highly-ranked defenses that are better known for bringing pressure. You know how many of those teams have exploited Peyton and beaten us this year? Also, you won't be playing at home. I think that's a HUGE factor that both sides need to factor in when projecting their defensive performance from the past 2 games. We've stuffed 2 pretty good running teams at home the past 2 weeks but I'm not foolish enough to project that against the Saints because we're not at home and you've got a QB to go with your running game to keep us honest. I've picked the Saints to win, but it's because of your offense, and more specifically, being more balanced than we are. If Williams decides to try to blitz us, and I do believe this is a big IF because I don't believe that's what he really intends to do, I do believe we would win. You know how the media keeps saying the Colts have only lost games they didn't want to win this year? Well the Saints only lost on the road once, and we played our backups for most of it. So we're OK with going on the road. Turf or grass.

01-28-2010, 11:14 AM	#8
braggbro1 Registered Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 55	Re: Article: Looks like were gonna come after Manning Originally Posted by Sir Psycho Sexy You know how the media keeps saying the Colts have only lost games they didn't want to win this year? Well the Saints only lost on the road once, and we played our backups for most of it. So we're OK with going on the road. Turf or grass. I think the point is that a home crowd can really help the defense and we've seen that the past two weeks with both the Colts and Saints. I doubt either defense will perform nearly as well on a neutral field as they did at home. You guys are acting as if having the tremendous homefield advantage at the Superdome meant nothing in your ability to apply pressure on Kurt Warner or Brett Favre. I think it had alot to do with it. It's because of that, and the fact that the Colts give up the fewest sacks in the league, that I believe you trying to pressure Manning is pointless. In fact, I welcome it because it's less guys in coverage.
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01-30-2010, 12:00 PM	#9
SaintPez Registered Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 82	Re: Gregg Williams suggests the Saints want to injure Manning I dont see anywhere where williams stated he wants to put peyton out of the game. You colts fans think when freeney and mathis get to Drew that they are bringing a box of chocolates and flowers? This is football. Crushing QBs is what all defenses want to do. Williams stated peyton is the man, and we gotta hit him hard when we can get to him. whats cheap about that? whats dirty about that? Again the media controlling people with tiny brains....
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01-28-2010, 09:12 AM	#10
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Article: Looks like were gonna come after Manning I'm going to say this, and flamers come on when I do, I don't like ANY of these special rules for QBs, and I will tell you why. He laces his shoes up, the exact same way, that a DB on special teams does, and you don't see anybody crying when that guy gets knocked out of a game. I love Drew Brees, I do, but I understand that he knew what he was getting into, when he played Pop Warner. He had MAJOR shoulder surgery, and wasn't even projected to play again, but he came back, and I haven't heard one cry baby word out of him about it. You know why? Because he's a man, and he knows that it comes with the territory. I don't agree with SAYING in the media, that you are going to try and take someone out. That just creates controversy, and hippies coming out of the woodworks, trying to ban the sport. If you want a sport, where everyone dances around, and loves each other, try figure skating, or gymnastics. This is a man's game, be a man, or sit in the stands.
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