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Ummm look at the garbage teams they played?

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If the AFC South, was the best in the NFL, then why, was there only one team from the division in the play offs? The East had two teams, and the North had two teams, NOT the South.

I agree with you about the Bucs sucking, but, if you remember, we lost that game, the same way Indy fan says we won the NFCCG. Our kicker missed a chip shot field goal, that wins the game for us. Instead, we go to overtime, and the Bucs win the toss, drive, and kick the winning field goal. The EXACT same thing that we did to Minnesota as far as overtime goes. So, according to Indyfan, the Bucs got lucky, because of a coin toss. Just going by his logic here.

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If Collie is not that wonderful how did he do what he did against the No. 1 ranked D in all of football? How many of your big time WR had 100 catches this season? The Colts have 2 good RB and 1 who can pound it down low (Addai/Brown/Hart) and the TE is a wash? Your kidding right, there is no TE in the game that can do what Clark can do. The Saints didn't play the quality of teams the colts did, thus the rankings are a big misleading.[

QUOTE=Papa Voodoo;202493]I understanding that razzing opposing teams' message boards is well and good, but willy nilly opinions are silly willy.

The Saints, not the Colts have the better offensive unit. Saints have 4 big time recievers to the Colts' 2 1/2 (Collie is not that wonderful). The Saints have 3 RB's to the Colts' 1. Let's call the TE position a wash.

Besides that, the number 1 offense in the NFL this season is New orleans. The Colts aren't even number 2. The Colts have the 25th rushing O where the Saints led the league for much of the year until PT got hurt (who is fully healthy again).

The Saints can run well and extend drives.[/QUOTE]

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Agreed. I'm sitting back and laughing at all of these people acting like these arguments are going to mean anything come Sunday. The team that plays the best Sunday will win and nobody knows for sure who that will be. The best team, even if you THINK you know which one that is, doesn't always win. It comes down to gameplans and execution and nobody here knows what the gameplans are and certainly not how they will be executed this Sunday.

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Well the South had a team with the same record as both the Jets and Ravens, but loss out on making it due to the "other" things the NFL looks at when teams have the same records. Also because our division is so tough we beat up on each other, and this year each of those other 3 teams had 2 losses from just playing the Colts (undefeated in our division, did the Saints do that)

The game with the bucs should have never been close....IT'S THE BUCS AND A ROOKIE COACH AND ROOKIE QB.

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I'm curious, since the Saints played such "garbage" teams, as you so narrow mindedly put it, who exactly, did the Colts destroy, that you are basing your borderline stalker analogies on?

Let's look at all of the amazing teams you guys played shall we?

Week one- Jacksonville 12, Indy 14_ Wow, there's a blow out.
Week 2 -Miami 23, Indy 27_ Four points this time, I'm starting to see it.
Week 3 Arizona 10, Indy 31 Considering what we did to them in the play offs, I would say that this isn't that impressive
Week 4 Seattle 17, Indy 34_ Now theirs a juggernaut, Seattle...
Week 5 Tennessee 9, Indy 31_ Division rival, that started what 0-8?
Week 6 St. Louis 6, Indy 42_ ho hummmmm
Week 7 SF 14, Indy 18, SF's defense great, the rest of the team, garbage.
Week 8 Houston 17, Indy 20_ Imagine that? A close score, in a division rival game? Whoever heard of such a thing?
Week 9 New England 34, Indy 35_ Belichek doesn't go for fourth down, whole different story.
Week 10 Baltimore 15, Indy 17_ What is Ray Lewis? A hundred years old?
Week 11 Houston 27, Indy 35_ Another CLOSE divisional game. I'm seeing a pattern.
Week 12 Ten 17, Indy 27_ Tennesse can run the ball, but not a great passing team
Week 13 Denver 16, Indy 28, Denver tanked the second half of the season.
Week 14 Jacksonville 31, Indy 35, I watched this game. Jacksonville gave you this game.

I won't even count the Jets, and Bills games, because YOU say, they shouldn't count. Now, please explain to me, how your schedule, was so much harder than ours. Point out the games specifically, if you don't mind.

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"The Saints didn't play the quality of teams the colts did"

you said it. Now which one of those teams, were that quality please? Three play off teams in all that you beat. Don't count the Jets, because you lost that game.

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Then please explain why both your games against Tennessee where so close? Or how about Jacksonville? Both of those teams, other than RBs, aren't passing teams. And you only beat Jacksonville by three points, in that Monday night game. You are retarded.

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He can't. We beat the Jets when they were undefeated. We beat the Giants when they were undefeated. We stomped the Eagles at their house. We OBLITERATED the Pats team that has had the Colts' number for what 6 years or so. How about that Miami game?

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But Papa, those are all garbage teams. I believe the Giants had the number one defense when we beat them. Stats don't lie now do they.... :)

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We only destroyed the Rams and well everyone did that. But we won, we beat everyone we lined up against and played with our A unit. I never said we blew them out, we just won. Our division games alone are 6 tougher games then your 6. You add Denver who had the 3 ranked D at the time was a tough game. Baltimore at thier place was tough.

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You lost to the Bucs.. The Tampa Bay Bucs. Nothing else needs to be said...well one other thing..

YOU LOST TO THE BUCS ON YOUR OWN FIELD......IN THE DOME....

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No, no, no.... You gave me a speech yesterday, what was it, "The only thing a win counts for, is to the bookies in Vegas. The players know what it means."

So, according to your own words, a win, is NOT, just a win. If that were true, you wouldn't be making excuses for us beating the Vikings. Which you have been harping on all week.

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I really agree with this statement. We have a good corp of players - when all are healthy!!

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And you lost to the JETS, in your OWN house! We lost to the Bucs by a field goal in OT. You lost to the JETS, by about two touchdowns. Considering how many starters we had out in the Bucs game, I would say, that your B-team reference doesn't hold water.

The Colts have one more win than we do. ONE. That's it. Say what you want, but "the numbers don't lie".

Your schedule was no harder than ours, and your offense is behind us in stats. Stop your excuses. You know that your arguments have no merit what so ever.

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We lost to the Jets with our B team, you lost to the Bucs with your A team. The Jets are an extremely better overall team then the Bucs. So Brees didn't play in your loss? how many starters missed that game? Our games vs. our own division alone makes our overall schedule tougher then what the Saints played. Stop living in denial it's just not pretty.....:cool:

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U know what, people? The Bucs are not near as bad as their record indicates. I have always respected that team, because they can burn you when you least expect. With that said, ALL of our division rivals play each other tough! Real tough! And when our defense is not healthy, well......any given Sunday! Stop dissing the Bucs, Indy! I hope they open a can of "whoopa**" on your Dolts next time they play, and they probably will!

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So Manning didn't play in the Jets game? I could have sworn he did. In fact, I seem to remember the entire starting defense staying in that game til the fourth quarter. Until you guys started losing, then of course they got pulled.

And your division is NOT that good. You are the one in denial. Tennessee, Houston, and Jacksonville? Are you f'n serious? Two of our division rivals were in the play offs, in 08, and every team, including the Saints, were .500 or better that year, so don't even go there.

All of which, don't have a damn thing to do with the game Sunday, which is what I've been trying to get through your thick skull, since you got here! You keep comparing the Superbowl, to games that are over, and done with. You use stats, when they are convenient to you, and then you turn a complete 360, when they don't, and say, "all that matters is the win." Which is another thing I said to you, over and over again. Jesus man, it's like you don't even remember things you say, one post to the next!

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You don't follow us very closely do you?

Our A-team? Laughable

I'll bet we had more starters and key players miss that game than you guys pulled versus the Jets.

Our defense was a MASH unit with several players out and several just returning from injury.

Do your homework. The Jets were a mere 5 points down when you "pulled" your A-team. I think they would have kicked your ass regardless. Perhaps your coach pulled them to prevent the embarrassment of the Jets stomping that Colt ass and possibly hurting the forehead.

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Welcome to the party. :bng:

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I thought the same thing. Their defense was giving up big plays to the Jets, and their "rookie" QB. Wouldn't have been too good to player morale to go into the play offs, with a loss, at home, to a team that limped into the play offs.

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Really are serious, the Saint's have a complete offense they can run the ball
unlike the Colt's, so I guees 100 catches by 1 reciever is not necessary


You have a very strong WR corp, one of the tops in the league, but they are not on the level of the Colts. How many of your guys had 100 receptions this year? How many TD's did your number 4 guy have this past season? Your guys are good, the Colts are just better....numbers don't lie.

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Fashionably late of course.

She's no different than the national media.

We play with 1/3 of our starters out and they say we struggled down the stretch, over-rated, one and done etc...

The Jets upset the Colts in Indy and its because the Colts pulled their starters.

Typical and predictable. I have no excuse as to why it still bothers me, it just does. I should probably just accept it and move on.

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You're exactly right, Joanie! They're the only team in our division with any REAL bragging rights. And by bragging rights, I mean, a Super Bowl title. If I recall correctly, a few years ago, they had the number one defense in the league. Say what you want about Tampa Bay, but they aren't a pushover team like everyone wants to believe they are.

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I just had to interject yet again (mostly because I can't believe this guy is still at it), but you guys are being too kind. The games you won this year were blowouts and not just to anybody, we're talking good teams. You beat the Giants by 21, Eagles by 26 and the Pats by 21. These teams aren't the likes of Jacksonville, Houston, etc. The "good" teams Indy beat were Denver by 12, Miami by a whopping 4, a game they shouldn't have won and were totally outplayed (I believe you guys beat them by a bigger margin) and the most telling is the Pats that Indy beat by 1 point DUE TO LUCK. Oh but that's right, luck has nothing to do with the Colts (thank God for that horseshoe on their helmets). They are the lucky recipients of getting into the SB by not playing the Steelers or Chargers, both teams that have knocked them out of the POs before, just like the SB in 2006, they didn't have to play either team then either. Yeah, playing two 9-7 teams is really impressive. But no, there's no luck there. The whole reason Indy is in the SB is pure luck. If I were a betting person, I would definitely be laying my money on the Saints.

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This whole, "our division is tougher than yours", is just mind boggling to me. Anyone who knows football knows, that division games are ALWAYS the toughest games you are going to play. I remember hearing Brees say, that as a player, you count a division win, as two wins, in your mind, because you know that they are going to be the hardest.

I think, and have always thought, that this game Sunday, is going to be a good one. No where, in any post, have I said that, we are going to roll the Colts. I said, I WISH we would, but that's not saying, it's going to happen.

This Indy guy is something else.

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LOL, you're talking to a fan of a team that lost to the Browns this year (and every other bottom dweller). But you're right, division games are always nail biters and aren't the tell tale of a team. No, I've read through the threads and I am so amazed how respectful and easy going you are all here, especially when you have some teeny bopper trying to make you bow down to the greatness of the Colts. Imagine that, coming onto the Saints message board proclaiming superiority. It's pure comic relief, especially when I and most people outside of Indy see this as 2 teams nearly mirror images of one another, although I still think the Saints overall this year were more impressive than the Colts based on strength of schedule playing better teams and winning with more dominance. I for one was impressed.

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He's just trying to get us riled up before Sunday. Typical troll. Has nothing intelligent to say, just talking out of his behind. And when people present facts to him, he completely ignores them, and continues to talk mess. I don't know what he thinks he's going to accomplish with any of this. So, you must think we're all of a sudden going to change our minds and root for Indy on Sunday?? Nothing before Sunday matters. Not stats, not wins or losses. Just give up and go away. You're wasting everyone's time here.

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Well that makes two of us my friend. Impressed might not be a strong enough word for me. Mesmerized, was more like it. I said this at the middle of the season, and I'm sticking to it. This is the best Saints team, I have ever seen, since I started watching them, oh so many years ago. This was the first year, that I can honestly say, that I wasn't scared of any team we played. Just like this game Sunday. I am not scared of the Colts. I have butterflies, because I really want our team to come out strong, and finish strong. But as stated, I am not scared of the Colts. I think these two teams match up well, and I don't see a blow out, on either side.

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And you shouldn't be scared of the Colts, there's no reason to be. I'm quite certain the players aren't. The Saints only have 1 guy to worry about and that's Manning. Their run game is nil and unimpressive. The Saints have a great QB in Brees and all the pieces in place. I wish more people would look at the big picture of the Saints wins this season and who they were against versus the Colts wins and who they were against. It's really not even comparable. The talking heads just love Peyton a little too much, maybe it's because of his years of PO failures. You guys just may be the beginning of the NFC dominance in the NFL should you win Sunday. You know, these things go in cycles, but the Saints will be a force for a good while.

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Really? Well, how about this to make you question it? The Saints and Colts played 6 common opponents this year; the Dolphins, Jets, Cardinals, Rams, Pats, and Bills. We'll take out the Bills as I know you will say you guys didn't try. So between the remaining 5 teams, if you look at average of yards gained and points scored it boils down to this:

Colts 399.5 ypg 30.0 ppg
Saints 415 ypg 33.8 ppg

So, explain to me how there is no question that the Colts have the better offense. I'm not saying the Saints ARE better. I'm just saying that there is no question your statement is stupid.

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THANK YOU Saint Michael! Although, now he's going to say, that stats don't have anything to do with it..... Watch.... Indy is like the greased up deaf guy, he can wiggle his way, out of anything he says.

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ok.....lets get back on topic.....sorry i missed this thread earlier cuz it would've been over a long time ago

reggie wayne and dallas clark had 100 catches during the regular season....they both had 10 TDs

they averaged 12.6 and 11.1 yards per catch respectively

now....none of our receivers had 100 catches....but 1 of them was over 1000 yards receiving with only 70 catches

our top 2 WRs averaged 15.3 and 15.8 ypc......so with that averaged out to 100 catches.....

colston would've had 1533 yards.....wayne only had 1264

henderson would've had 1578.......clark only had 1106

5 WRs on the colts scored TDs....pretty impressive.....except that the saints had 10 players score a receiving TD this season....not including a few dropped TDs by offensive linemen

so while we are guarding garcon, wayne and clark....you guys can guard colston, henderson, meachem, shockey, thomas, moore, reggie, pierre, and dinkins

oh and dont forget that streif is an eligible receiver when he comes in as an extra blocker because we will throw to him

some colts fan asked earlier how good our 4th WR was......

9 TDs.....is that alright?

so lets recap

your top WR is one of the best in the league....but is targeted more times than any WR on our team.....had our top WR been targeted as many times, he would've had a more productive season

your 2nd WR is a TE and had twice as many catches as our 2nd WR......you know what that tells me

your offense is 1 dimensional....you throw to either wayne or clark.....if i were gregg williams i wouldnt worry about collie or garcon or addai.....none of them are threats because the colts either throw it to wayne or clark

so....which WRs would the colts cover......please tell me because id love to tell you how the other 2 are going to rip your defense apart....oh and that running game of yours....tsk tsk

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I was thinking along the lines of a dynasty. Capped off in SB XLVII of course.

:bng:

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the first team to ever play a home game in the super bowl......it would be glorious

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That would be amazing! :bng:

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And as for the trolls here, let us not forget the absolute douchebaggery from the Vikes fans. This is nothing.

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Douchebagitude would be the proper term for the Purple Pansy Sub Station.

Can't really call them a nation. There are just a few of them in MinnieSooooota.

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Nice work, CL. Very nice work.

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One word. Sharper

Another word. Harper

Yet another. Greer

Not to mention Gay, Porter, Fujita, Shanle and introducing Malcolm Jenkins.

The Dolts ain't ready for this. They just think they are. Remember
how the Saints shut down the Cardinals excellent WR's?

Who Dat ain't askeeert.

They are going to hit Manning early, often and hard. Mark my words.
Observe and learn, Hater Nation.

Ask Warner and Favre Bean how it worked out for them. The Saints D
wasn't supposed to be able to touch them either.

Errrrrnt. Dolts are going down. Pants on the ground.