Colts Receivers better than Ours?
 

Saints may seem like team of destiny, but Colts have edge

"Manning deservedly gets the lion's share of credit for the Colts' offensive success, but he has a remarkably deep group of pass-catchers. This team sees no drop-off after Reggie Wayne and TE Dallas Clark, because youngsters Pierre Garcon and Austin Collie are big-time playmakers. As strong as the Saints' secondary might be, this is a tough group to cover."

Edge: Colts


Now, this is where I draw the line. Wayne, Clark, Addai, Garcon, and Collie do NOT have the edge over Colston, Meachem, Henderson, Moore, Shockey, D. Thomas, Pierre T., and Reggie. I don't think Mickey would trade those guys for our guys and I'm sure Polian would. Silly stuff. :redrocket:

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I guess the talkers have to talk about something. After all, it's a guess! I, for one, would much rather have all of our players, because they are the ones who make the New Orleans Saints WHO THEY ARE!

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I'd take our receiving corp over theirs any day. They have a good bunch, but our guys fit well with our team. Just like their guys are a good fit with their team.

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As a group. I would take our receivers. Standalone, I think Reggie Wayne is the best of them all with Colston close behind.

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Funny how when they were trying to justify Manning getting the MVP, they kept talking about how he did more with less in his receiver corps. Now apparently they are all-world probowlers.

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The real difference that separates them is we have a receivers coach by the name of Curtis Johnson, who in my opinion is the main reason our receivers look so good. I sure hope we have him tied up in a nice contract.

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WHO DAT?

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A slight edge for our group because of the depth.

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Sorry, but our WR corp is leap and bounds better then the Saints.

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If it makes you feel better, Indy, go on believin' that! Cause some talking head spit it out doesn't make it so. If it's all the same to you....will keep our lineup and take our chances. ;)

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You have a very strong WR corp, one of the tops in the league, but they are not on the level of the Colts. How many of your guys had 100 receptions this year? How many TD's did your number 4 guy have this past season? Your guys are good, the Colts are just better....numbers don't lie.

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And you base this assumption on what exactly? Last time I checked, we are the number one offense in the NFL. Number one in passing. Now how is it that we are number one, but your receivers are better?

Let me go ahead and give your answer, before you do..... Ummm, we haven't played anybody as good as you guys have huh? You guys have played better defenses than we have huh? The Colts are the greatest team to ever step on the football field huh? Payton Manning is the best QB in the known universe, and alternate dimension huh?

I have seen alot of obnoxious fans come in, and out of here, for the past five years, but you sir, you are officially king of them all. Congratulations.

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Well lets be honost, 10 of your games came against some pretty sad teams, and your division was a joke....

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UGH! I made the mistake of looking around to read any articles because of course, we're not getting much here and I JUST HAD TO read this thread. I am officially convinced this kid is not only delusional about his team, but just flat out in denial that the Colts are yes good, but they ain't all that. My Lord, I hope the Saints punch that team in the mouth! I would love nothing more.

BTW Indy, you ever want to compare teams and their accomplishments, I would love to invite you to a Steelers board. I can guarantee you will gain all the football knowledge you so obviously lack.

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no question your Steelers have put together some good seasons. But lets be honost, you last two SB wins were by luck and poor officiating, and lets not even go into what happen to them this season....:p

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Leaps and bounds better? Let's try a simple approach:

Colston = Wayne
Henderson = Garcon
Moore = Collie
Meachem = Colts have no match
Shockey = Clark
Pierre Thomas = Addai
Reggie Bush = Colts have no match

And, that is without David Thomas or Mike Bell. Edge: Saints. Brees regularly throws to 6-9 receivers per game. That has a lot to do with "numbers."

By the numbers over the past 4 years Brees is a much better QB than Manning so, by your own logic, the Colts have the inferior QB. I bet you don't like your "numbers" logic now do you?

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I concur with this entire post.

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Oh no, no, no, no. This puts you right up there with fans making excuses. If you know football, which I am seriously questioning that you do, you know that every team has a chance to overcome bad calls. If you can't do that, you don't deserve to win, period. I mean let's be honest, the officials did everything in their power to try to get the Colts to win in 2005, but they just couldn't do it...the better team won, period. Officiating is an excuse for losers, nothing more, nothing less. Your team is good, they will never be in the Steelers category, ownership, champsionships, nothing. You can dream, but it will never happen.

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Wow where to start. Colston is good, he is not yet on Reggie's level. Shockey is a punk who couldn't even make the Colts, let alone hang with Clark. Henderson has some talent, but he doesn't bring the threat that Garcon does. You do have more weapons, but not better, remember we are talking "Quality" not Quanity". As for comparing Brees to Peyton...please stop drinking the Kool aid or whatever Saint fans drink and come to your senses.

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I was speaking of your "suspect win" vs the Seahawks, not us. and your lucky last second TD against the Cards.

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Where are the steelers now? Go back to your own message board and let the big boys play.

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Would you stop making excuses. There was no suspect win, only 2 bad calls as Mike Pierira pointed out. The rest were legit. The fans who didn't want the Steelers to win just can't accept that, you being one of them. The "lucky" TD pass against the Cards won the SB. This coming from a fan of a team who is one of the luckiest teams ever! Remember the Troy non penalty that could have easily won that PO game for the Colts in 2005. Worst...call...ever. And yet, they still loss because Peyton the choker couldn't overcome. Yes, Peyton chokes every 3 years. It's what he is, it's why you will never see anymore than 1 or 2 SBs in the time he has been there. What is it, he's been there 11 years and 1 SB...yeah, what an amazing team! Woo.

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You don't own this board. I was not posting to you. Don't care where the Steelers are right now. It makes no difference. Go do your homework.

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So, according your extensive football knowledge, I guess the only team that has actually earned their championship, is the Colts. The rest of the league, that has either won, or gotten too, the superbowl, is either lucky, or had the refs give them calls. Is that what you are saying?

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hey, they're just like the Eagles

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Reggie Wayne is great. No argument. Colston is a different type of receiver.

Shockey is a punk who will block his ass off and make plays. Again, different type of player than Clark (who is arguably top 5 TE in the NFL)

What "threat" does Garcon present that Henderson doesn't??? Garcon has 54 catches in his career... Unless you consider potential as a threat, I don't see your point.

And let me correct you - Qaulity doesn't mean jack when your guys can't cover the QUANTITY of threats we have on the field.
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Agreed.

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B I N G O! The Colts are untouchable don't you know. I mean, Manning has only been in the league what, 3 years since his last SB, right? Must be because if they were so great and he God like they so proclaim, they would have what, like 11 SB wins by now. Yeah, they're the only "legit" team. Their fans cannot be taken seriously. They're right up there with Philly, obnoxious bandwagoners. Like the Chargers fan said, a fake team.

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He's mad.




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Already tiring of this argument, both corps are great, all that matters is whose plays best on Sunday.

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Yes, you are correct. It's really hard for some fans to give their opponents the respect they deserve and to come to terms they are evenly matched. You guys earned and deserve your spot. From an outsider, I see the defenses evenly matched with the Saints having the edge in the secondary and running game. Colts secondary is suspect, and I think Brees can and will keep up with Manning and quite honestly, I'm just having a real hard time thinking of any reasons the Saints will lose unless they shoot themselves in the foot. If the Saints can keep from beating themselves, I can see a Lombardi in your trophy case.

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Leave it to the trolls to come in and crap all over the place.

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But the thing is that Indy must be schizo or bi-polar (no offense to those who have the legit problem), because one minute he concedes defeat to the Saints, and the next, he's touting the Dolts offense as the best there is. Make up your mind, Indy!

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Both squads are good. I can only comment on two issues in this whole thread. 1. don't lump "Colts Fans" all into the same bag. 2. Shockey and Clark are WAY different receivers. Although Clark is officially a TE, he plays the slot as much as anywhere, and is not a prototypical TE like Shockey is. Personally, I think Shockey is a punk... but I also admit, that editing can make a pretty good guy look bad. He's probably OK, but has a lot of passion that sometimes gets expressed in a less than appropriate way. But Clark creates match-up problems for defenses. LB's struggle with his speed, and DB's struggle with his size. Not to mention... that if there are DB's covering Clark... that sure frees up Wayne, Collie OR Garcon for a man to man, that Peyton will find. And the Colts are down Marvin Harrison AND Antonio Gonzales this year.

I am not that familiar with the Saints receiver corps... other than they, and drew brees put up a LOT of offense this year.

Jabba

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They are two different issues. There is no question the Colts have the better offensive unit, but that doesn't mean they will win the game, because as the local and national media has said, the Colts are defenseless without Freeney and the Saints will role.

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If the Dolts have better WR than the SAINTS, why did the Black & Gold lead the league in O? Who Dat!

Sure, all teams have wide outs.

We have Colston, Henderson, Meach and REG-GIE! too?

Get out of town. The Dolts D had better bring their A game, is more like it.

WE LEAD THE LEAGUE IN OFFENSE, lest ye forget.

Neighbor please.

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I understanding that razzing opposing teams' message boards is well and good, but willy nilly opinions are silly willy.

The Saints, not the Colts have the better offensive unit. Saints have 4 big time recievers to the Colts' 2 1/2 (Collie is not that wonderful). The Saints have 3 RB's to the Colts' 1. Let's call the TE position a wash.

Besides that, the number 1 offense in the NFL this season is New orleans. The Colts aren't even number 2. The Colts have the 25th rushing O where the Saints led the league for much of the year until PT got hurt (who is fully healthy again).

The Saints can run well and extend drives.

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I'll beat Indy to it...

In a terrible division, in the weaker conference.

Ya'll are tough... but stats mean squat. They mean nothing coming from us colts fans... and they mean nothing coming from Saints fans. Maybe they have the BEST O in the league... but coming out of the NFC, and more specifically the NFC South offensive stats will always be questioned no matter how impressive they are.

Jabba

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Well, allow me to retort.... Can anyone answer this question... How many AFC teams, did the Saints lose too, this past season? Anybody?

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The AFC was 10 games better than the NFC this year in head to head games. The AFC South had 38 wins in the divisional teams. The worst one was 7-9 Jags. The NFC South won 33 games, with the lowly Bucs at 3-13 who you LOST to. Now... granted it was in garbage time at the end of the year... just like our losses to the JETS and the Bills. Throw away games. But the rest is pretty undisputable. The NFC South was mediocre. The AFC South was the best in the NFL.