Here's a brain twister....

Tobias-Reiper · 02-04-2010, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

Archie Manning drafted by the Saints. Has a son named Peyton. Mora coaches the Saints. Peyton hangs out with the team, while he's in High School, and even goes to training camp with the team, a couple of years.
Mora leaves the Saints, goes to the Colts. Drafts a QB....... Peyton Manning. Convinces Bill Polian, to take Manning. Mora fired by the Colts, and Peyton takes the Colts to their second superbowl appearance versus.... the Saints....

Wow. Just think, had Mora not coached the Saints, and not met Peyton, maybe the Colts don't draft him. There is ALOT connecting these two teams. Seriously.

...oh you GOT to be kidding me...

The Colts drafted Peyton because they finished the 1997 season 3-13, good enough to get them the 1st pick in the 1998 draft, and at QB, they started a very ineffective 34 year old Jim Harbaugh who went 2-9, and finished the season with Paul Justin and Kelley Holocomb who combined went 1-4. Peyton was the consensus best QB in that draft, even if ESPN made its best effort to create a controversy between Manning and Leaf.

That's why the Colts drafted Peyton. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with Mora coaching the Saints and meeting Peyton before he even attended Tennessee.

SaintPauly · 02-04-2010, 11:24 PM

You must be high bro. Seriously. You don't think, that with the Leaf controversy involved, that Mora's input on Manning didn't have ANYTHING to do with that decision? He only watched this kid grow up as a football player, right in front of his own eyes.

Jim Mora Jr. was on staff with Mora when all this was going on, and he said today on NFL Network, that he used to tell the press, during those training camps, that Peyton had a stronger arm, than any of their QBs at the time.

You have to admit, that's one hell of a coincidence, that Mora just happened to be the coach, when that QB decision was made.

Saint_LB · 02-05-2010, 03:34 AM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

You must be high bro. Seriously. You don't think, that with the Leaf controversy involved, that Mora's input on Manning didn't have ANYTHING to do with that decision?

I agree with TR...although I am high right now. Must be something to it.

The Saints must've had about 32 coaches and 32 GM's on their payroll back when Peyton was working out at the Saints' facility, because there wasn't one team in that draft that wouldn't have taken Peyton first.

I agree that it is ironic that Mora was in Indy when Peyton became availabe in the draft and it was ironic that they just happened to have the #1 pick, but I think they would have picked Peyton even if Mutt was GM and Jeff was head coach.

SaintPauly · 02-05-2010, 03:54 AM

I will agree to disagree with you guys.... And being high is alright.... Didn't mean it as an insult at all...

breesfan27 · 02-05-2010, 03:57 AM

Welcome to the forum, Tjay1.

I like Mora. He was a good coach. I'll always remember him for his post game rants though! Those were the best!

Saint_LB · 02-05-2010, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by breesfan27

Welcome to the forum, Tjay1.

I like Mora. He was a good coach. I'll always remember him for his post game rants though! Those were the best!

YouTube- Jim Mora Playoffs ! ? Long Version

YouTube- Jim Mora Saints rant (better quality)

YouTube- 1993 - Jim Mora Tirade (Sick)

YouTube- jim mora remix

SaintPauly · 02-05-2010, 04:08 AM

Coach Mora was on the phone with NFL Network today, and Jim Jr. said that one of his biggest pet peeves, was not being remembered for bringing two franchises up from the ashes, but being remembered for his post game rants... Only one person to blame for that really.... I like Jim though. Drove me crazy at times back then, but water under the bridge now.

Saint_LB · 02-05-2010, 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

Coach Mora was on the phone with NFL Network today, and Jim Jr. said that one of his biggest pet peeves, was not being remembered for bringing two franchises up from the ashes, but being remembered for his post game rants... Only one person to blame for that really.... I like Jim though. Drove me crazy at times back then, but water under the bridge now.

Yes...those were good days, indeed...even though we never broke through, I wouldn't trade those for nothing. Dude had a temper.

It's early, and I'm bored again...so...keeping in mind that I'm an Ole Miss fan and was a Fourcade fan...

I remember back during the days when they had the strike, and then Fourcade entered the scene, then Fourcade stuck with the team, then Fourcade beat Hebert out for the starting job, then Hebert left for Atlanta leaving us only with Fourcade, then we went out and mortgaged the farm for Steve Walsh, then Mora removed Fourcade as starter and inserted Walsh, and then I called his weekly show and asked him this...

Me: "Coach Mora, I have a few questions if you don't mind?"
Coach: "OK."
Me: "Who has the better arm between Fourcade and Walsh?"
Coach: "Blah, blah, blah....Fourcade."
Me: "Who is the more mobile QB of the two?"
Coach: "Blah, blah, blah...Fourcade."
Me: "Who presently knows our system better of the two."
Coach: "Blah, blah, blah...Fourcade."
Me: "Then why in the hell are you playing Walsh right now?"
Coach: "You $%$#$%^%$. You don't know &*%$ about %$&^$ and you %$^&4# come here and &&^%%$& tell me this Y&^%^&?"

UK_WhoDat · 02-05-2010, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

Me: "Coach Mora, I have a few questions if you don't mind?"
Coach: "OK."
Me: "Who has the better arm between Fourcade and Walsh?"
Coach: "Blah, blah, blah....Fourcade."
Me: "Who is the more mobile QB of the two?"
Coach: "Blah, blah, blah...Fourcade."
Me: "Who presently knows our system better of the two."
Coach: "Blah, blah, blah...Fourcade."
Me: "Then why in the hell are you playing Walsh right now?"
Coach: "You $%$#$%^%$. You don't know &*%$ about %$&^$ and you %$^&4# come here and &&^%%$& tell me this Y&^%^&?"

That is good! And I was a Fourcade fan too.

21Hilliard · 02-05-2010, 09:09 AM

Odd bit of trivia for you, completely off the posted topic, but related to what Saint_LB was saying.

Hebert & Fourcade were the opposing quarterbacks in the 1976/77 school year Louisiana High School Football Championship game. Hebert for South Lafourche, and Fourcade for Archbishop Shaw. South won the game, taking their second (and last!) State Title.

02-04-2010, 10:20 PM	#1
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Here's a brain twister.... Originally Posted by saintpaul25 Archie Manning drafted by the Saints. Has a son named Peyton. Mora coaches the Saints. Peyton hangs out with the team, while he's in High School, and even goes to training camp with the team, a couple of years. Mora leaves the Saints, goes to the Colts. Drafts a QB....... Peyton Manning. Convinces Bill Polian, to take Manning. Mora fired by the Colts, and Peyton takes the Colts to their second superbowl appearance versus.... the Saints.... Wow. Just think, had Mora not coached the Saints, and not met Peyton, maybe the Colts don't draft him. There is ALOT connecting these two teams. Seriously. ...oh you GOT to be kidding me... The Colts drafted Peyton because they finished the 1997 season 3-13, good enough to get them the 1st pick in the 1998 draft, and at QB, they started a very ineffective 34 year old Jim Harbaugh who went 2-9, and finished the season with Paul Justin and Kelley Holocomb who combined went 1-4. Peyton was the consensus best QB in that draft, even if ESPN made its best effort to create a controversy between Manning and Leaf. That's why the Colts drafted Peyton. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with Mora coaching the Saints and meeting Peyton before he even attended Tennessee.
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02-04-2010, 11:24 PM	#2
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Here's a brain twister.... You must be high bro. Seriously. You don't think, that with the Leaf controversy involved, that Mora's input on Manning didn't have ANYTHING to do with that decision? He only watched this kid grow up as a football player, right in front of his own eyes. Jim Mora Jr. was on staff with Mora when all this was going on, and he said today on NFL Network, that he used to tell the press, during those training camps, that Peyton had a stronger arm, than any of their QBs at the time. You have to admit, that's one hell of a coincidence, that Mora just happened to be the coach, when that QB decision was made.
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02-05-2010, 03:34 AM	#3
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Here's a brain twister.... Originally Posted by saintpaul25 You must be high bro. Seriously. You don't think, that with the Leaf controversy involved, that Mora's input on Manning didn't have ANYTHING to do with that decision? I agree with TR...although I am high right now. Must be something to it. The Saints must've had about 32 coaches and 32 GM's on their payroll back when Peyton was working out at the Saints' facility, because there wasn't one team in that draft that wouldn't have taken Peyton first. I agree that it is ironic that Mora was in Indy when Peyton became availabe in the draft and it was ironic that they just happened to have the #1 pick, but I think they would have picked Peyton even if Mutt was GM and Jeff was head coach.
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02-05-2010, 03:54 AM	#4
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Here's a brain twister.... I will agree to disagree with you guys.... And being high is alright.... Didn't mean it as an insult at all...

02-05-2010, 03:57 AM	#5
breesfan27 Mrs. Drew Brees Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Who Dat Nation (by way of South Dakota) Posts: 2,276 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Here's a brain twister.... Welcome to the forum, Tjay1. I like Mora. He was a good coach. I'll always remember him for his post game rants though! Those were the best!

02-05-2010, 04:08 AM	#7
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Here's a brain twister.... Coach Mora was on the phone with NFL Network today, and Jim Jr. said that one of his biggest pet peeves, was not being remembered for bringing two franchises up from the ashes, but being remembered for his post game rants... Only one person to blame for that really.... I like Jim though. Drove me crazy at times back then, but water under the bridge now.

02-05-2010, 04:29 AM	#8
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Here's a brain twister.... Originally Posted by saintpaul25 Coach Mora was on the phone with NFL Network today, and Jim Jr. said that one of his biggest pet peeves, was not being remembered for bringing two franchises up from the ashes, but being remembered for his post game rants... Only one person to blame for that really.... I like Jim though. Drove me crazy at times back then, but water under the bridge now. Yes...those were good days, indeed...even though we never broke through, I wouldn't trade those for nothing. Dude had a temper. It's early, and I'm bored again...so...keeping in mind that I'm an Ole Miss fan and was a Fourcade fan... I remember back during the days when they had the strike, and then Fourcade entered the scene, then Fourcade stuck with the team, then Fourcade beat Hebert out for the starting job, then Hebert left for Atlanta leaving us only with Fourcade, then we went out and mortgaged the farm for Steve Walsh, then Mora removed Fourcade as starter and inserted Walsh, and then I called his weekly show and asked him this... Me: "Coach Mora, I have a few questions if you don't mind?" Coach: "OK." Me: "Who has the better arm between Fourcade and Walsh?" Coach: "Blah, blah, blah....Fourcade." Me: "Who is the more mobile QB of the two?" Coach: "Blah, blah, blah...Fourcade." Me: "Who presently knows our system better of the two." Coach: "Blah, blah, blah...Fourcade." Me: "Then why in the hell are you playing Walsh right now?" Coach: "You $%$#$%^%$. You don't know &*%$ about %$&^$ and you %$^&4# come here and &&^%%$& tell me this Y&^%^&?"
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02-05-2010, 11:28 AM	#9
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,001	Re: Here's a brain twister.... Originally Posted by Saint_LB Me: "Coach Mora, I have a few questions if you don't mind?" Coach: "OK." Me: "Who has the better arm between Fourcade and Walsh?" Coach: "Blah, blah, blah....Fourcade." Me: "Who is the more mobile QB of the two?" Coach: "Blah, blah, blah...Fourcade." Me: "Who presently knows our system better of the two." Coach: "Blah, blah, blah...Fourcade." Me: "Then why in the hell are you playing Walsh right now?" Coach: "You $%$#$%^%$. You don't know &*%$ about %$&^$ and you %$^&4# come here and &&^%%$& tell me this Y&^%^&?" That is good! And I was a Fourcade fan too.

02-05-2010, 09:09 AM	#10
21Hilliard 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Raised on the Bayou - living in DFW Posts: 136	Re: Here's a brain twister.... Odd bit of trivia for you, completely off the posted topic, but related to what Saint_LB was saying. Hebert & Fourcade were the opposing quarterbacks in the 1976/77 school year Louisiana High School Football Championship game. Hebert for South Lafourche, and Fourcade for Archbishop Shaw. South won the game, taking their second (and last!) State Title.