Here's a brain twister....

SaintPauly · 02-05-2010, 12:24 AM

You must be high bro. Seriously. You don't think, that with the Leaf controversy involved, that Mora's input on Manning didn't have ANYTHING to do with that decision? He only watched this kid grow up as a football player, right in front of his own eyes.

Jim Mora Jr. was on staff with Mora when all this was going on, and he said today on NFL Network, that he used to tell the press, during those training camps, that Peyton had a stronger arm, than any of their QBs at the time.

You have to admit, that's one hell of a coincidence, that Mora just happened to be the coach, when that QB decision was made.

QBREES9 · 02-05-2010, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by Tjay1

Wow thats alot of history between the two teams. This is my first time on the forums, just dropping in to say hi to all the fellow Saints fans!

Welcome, take your jacket off and stay awhile.

Saint_LB · 02-05-2010, 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

You must be high bro. Seriously. You don't think, that with the Leaf controversy involved, that Mora's input on Manning didn't have ANYTHING to do with that decision?

I agree with TR...although I am high right now. Must be something to it.

The Saints must've had about 32 coaches and 32 GM's on their payroll back when Peyton was working out at the Saints' facility, because there wasn't one team in that draft that wouldn't have taken Peyton first.

I agree that it is ironic that Mora was in Indy when Peyton became availabe in the draft and it was ironic that they just happened to have the #1 pick, but I think they would have picked Peyton even if Mutt was GM and Jeff was head coach.

SaintPauly · 02-05-2010, 04:54 AM

I will agree to disagree with you guys.... And being high is alright.... Didn't mean it as an insult at all...

breesfan27 · 02-05-2010, 04:57 AM

Welcome to the forum, Tjay1.

I like Mora. He was a good coach. I'll always remember him for his post game rants though! Those were the best!

Saint_LB · 02-05-2010, 05:03 AM

Originally Posted by breesfan27

Welcome to the forum, Tjay1.

I like Mora. He was a good coach. I'll always remember him for his post game rants though! Those were the best!

YouTube- Jim Mora Playoffs ! ? Long Version

YouTube- Jim Mora Saints rant (better quality)

YouTube- 1993 - Jim Mora Tirade (Sick)

YouTube- jim mora remix

SaintPauly · 02-05-2010, 05:08 AM

Coach Mora was on the phone with NFL Network today, and Jim Jr. said that one of his biggest pet peeves, was not being remembered for bringing two franchises up from the ashes, but being remembered for his post game rants... Only one person to blame for that really.... I like Jim though. Drove me crazy at times back then, but water under the bridge now.

Saint_LB · 02-05-2010, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

Coach Mora was on the phone with NFL Network today, and Jim Jr. said that one of his biggest pet peeves, was not being remembered for bringing two franchises up from the ashes, but being remembered for his post game rants... Only one person to blame for that really.... I like Jim though. Drove me crazy at times back then, but water under the bridge now.

Yes...those were good days, indeed...even though we never broke through, I wouldn't trade those for nothing. Dude had a temper.

It's early, and I'm bored again...so...keeping in mind that I'm an Ole Miss fan and was a Fourcade fan...

I remember back during the days when they had the strike, and then Fourcade entered the scene, then Fourcade stuck with the team, then Fourcade beat Hebert out for the starting job, then Hebert left for Atlanta leaving us only with Fourcade, then we went out and mortgaged the farm for Steve Walsh, then Mora removed Fourcade as starter and inserted Walsh, and then I called his weekly show and asked him this...

Me: "Coach Mora, I have a few questions if you don't mind?"
Coach: "OK."
Me: "Who has the better arm between Fourcade and Walsh?"
Coach: "Blah, blah, blah....Fourcade."
Me: "Who is the more mobile QB of the two?"
Coach: "Blah, blah, blah...Fourcade."
Me: "Who presently knows our system better of the two."
Coach: "Blah, blah, blah...Fourcade."
Me: "Then why in the hell are you playing Walsh right now?"
Coach: "You $%$#$%^%$. You don't know &*%$ about %$&^$ and you %$^&4# come here and &&^%%$& tell me this Y&^%^&?"

21Hilliard · 02-05-2010, 10:09 AM

Odd bit of trivia for you, completely off the posted topic, but related to what Saint_LB was saying.

Hebert & Fourcade were the opposing quarterbacks in the 1976/77 school year Louisiana High School Football Championship game. Hebert for South Lafourche, and Fourcade for Archbishop Shaw. South won the game, taking their second (and last!) State Title.

UK_WhoDat · 02-05-2010, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

Me: "Coach Mora, I have a few questions if you don't mind?"
Coach: "OK."
Me: "Who has the better arm between Fourcade and Walsh?"
Coach: "Blah, blah, blah....Fourcade."
Me: "Who is the more mobile QB of the two?"
Coach: "Blah, blah, blah...Fourcade."
Me: "Who presently knows our system better of the two."
Coach: "Blah, blah, blah...Fourcade."
Me: "Then why in the hell are you playing Walsh right now?"
Coach: "You $%$#$%^%$. You don't know &*%$ about %$&^$ and you %$^&4# come here and &&^%%$& tell me this Y&^%^&?"

That is good! And I was a Fourcade fan too.

02-05-2010, 12:24 AM	#11
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Here's a brain twister.... You must be high bro. Seriously. You don't think, that with the Leaf controversy involved, that Mora's input on Manning didn't have ANYTHING to do with that decision? He only watched this kid grow up as a football player, right in front of his own eyes. Jim Mora Jr. was on staff with Mora when all this was going on, and he said today on NFL Network, that he used to tell the press, during those training camps, that Peyton had a stronger arm, than any of their QBs at the time. You have to admit, that's one hell of a coincidence, that Mora just happened to be the coach, when that QB decision was made.
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02-05-2010, 12:28 AM	#12
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Here's a brain twister.... Originally Posted by Tjay1 Wow thats alot of history between the two teams. This is my first time on the forums, just dropping in to say hi to all the fellow Saints fans! Welcome, take your jacket off and stay awhile.

02-05-2010, 04:34 AM	#13
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Here's a brain twister.... Originally Posted by saintpaul25 You must be high bro. Seriously. You don't think, that with the Leaf controversy involved, that Mora's input on Manning didn't have ANYTHING to do with that decision? I agree with TR...although I am high right now. Must be something to it. The Saints must've had about 32 coaches and 32 GM's on their payroll back when Peyton was working out at the Saints' facility, because there wasn't one team in that draft that wouldn't have taken Peyton first. I agree that it is ironic that Mora was in Indy when Peyton became availabe in the draft and it was ironic that they just happened to have the #1 pick, but I think they would have picked Peyton even if Mutt was GM and Jeff was head coach.
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02-05-2010, 04:54 AM	#14
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02-05-2010, 05:08 AM	#17
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Here's a brain twister.... Coach Mora was on the phone with NFL Network today, and Jim Jr. said that one of his biggest pet peeves, was not being remembered for bringing two franchises up from the ashes, but being remembered for his post game rants... Only one person to blame for that really.... I like Jim though. Drove me crazy at times back then, but water under the bridge now.

02-05-2010, 05:29 AM	#18
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Here's a brain twister.... Originally Posted by saintpaul25 Coach Mora was on the phone with NFL Network today, and Jim Jr. said that one of his biggest pet peeves, was not being remembered for bringing two franchises up from the ashes, but being remembered for his post game rants... Only one person to blame for that really.... I like Jim though. Drove me crazy at times back then, but water under the bridge now. Yes...those were good days, indeed...even though we never broke through, I wouldn't trade those for nothing. Dude had a temper. It's early, and I'm bored again...so...keeping in mind that I'm an Ole Miss fan and was a Fourcade fan... I remember back during the days when they had the strike, and then Fourcade entered the scene, then Fourcade stuck with the team, then Fourcade beat Hebert out for the starting job, then Hebert left for Atlanta leaving us only with Fourcade, then we went out and mortgaged the farm for Steve Walsh, then Mora removed Fourcade as starter and inserted Walsh, and then I called his weekly show and asked him this... Me: "Coach Mora, I have a few questions if you don't mind?" Coach: "OK." Me: "Who has the better arm between Fourcade and Walsh?" Coach: "Blah, blah, blah....Fourcade." Me: "Who is the more mobile QB of the two?" Coach: "Blah, blah, blah...Fourcade." Me: "Who presently knows our system better of the two." Coach: "Blah, blah, blah...Fourcade." Me: "Then why in the hell are you playing Walsh right now?" Coach: "You $%$#$%^%$. You don't know &*%$ about %$&^$ and you %$^&4# come here and &&^%%$& tell me this Y&^%^&?"
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02-05-2010, 10:09 AM	#19
21Hilliard 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Raised on the Bayou - living in DFW Posts: 136	Re: Here's a brain twister.... Odd bit of trivia for you, completely off the posted topic, but related to what Saint_LB was saying. Hebert & Fourcade were the opposing quarterbacks in the 1976/77 school year Louisiana High School Football Championship game. Hebert for South Lafourche, and Fourcade for Archbishop Shaw. South won the game, taking their second (and last!) State Title.

02-05-2010, 12:28 PM	#20
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,947	Re: Here's a brain twister.... Originally Posted by Saint_LB Me: "Coach Mora, I have a few questions if you don't mind?" Coach: "OK." Me: "Who has the better arm between Fourcade and Walsh?" Coach: "Blah, blah, blah....Fourcade." Me: "Who is the more mobile QB of the two?" Coach: "Blah, blah, blah...Fourcade." Me: "Who presently knows our system better of the two." Coach: "Blah, blah, blah...Fourcade." Me: "Then why in the hell are you playing Walsh right now?" Coach: "You $%$#$%^%$. You don't know &*%$ about %$&^$ and you %$^&4# come here and &&^%%$& tell me this Y&^%^&?" That is good! And I was a Fourcade fan too.