My thoughts on the game

JOESAM2002 · 09-23-2003, 10:18 AM

Let me put it like this. I\'m always here. I just have grown tired of the conspiracy theory that everyone is after Brooks. I think the reason most look at Aaron is because he is the quarterback and responsible for the ball at the beginning of every play. As the quarterback, most expect him to be the team leader on offense. Granted he can\'t make players perform or do it for them, but he can expect more and try to get more out of them. I agree with you on somethings but I agree with 08 on some too. I really don\'t think AB does a very good job reading defenses. It\'s not my job to figure out why or to try to fix it but someone needs to. I agree that he can only call plays called into him. He can however audible, but he has a hard time doing that when he doesn\'t have any idea what the defense is doing. Four years is a long time, it just seems to me that with that much time he\'d be farther along.

Maybe time will work this out but in my experience, if I hadn\'t performed up to my bosses expectations, i\'d be home scratching my unemployed ass!

JOESAM2002 · 09-23-2003, 10:22 AM

saintfan, what 08\'s doing this year is no different than what he did last year. You know that as well as I do. I guess it just doesn\'t bother me like it does some. I remember the two of you going at it last year, the way you two do it made it fun for those of us that remember. So if you want to go at it go on and do it. I\'m sure he won\'t back down to much. LOL

saintfan · 09-23-2003, 10:24 AM

Forever the peacekeeper, you failed to acknowledge \"08\"\'s bias and agenda, and you simply can\'t deny it Joesam...cause it\'s there and we ALL know it whether the man makes sense every now and then or not.

Are you donating to the fund or not? LOL

saintz08 · 09-23-2003, 11:59 AM

Saintsfan

Do I get the Delhomme jersey too ??? He is a starter now.... :P

saintfan · 09-23-2003, 12:06 PM

Doesn\'t matter to me. They aren\'t worth much anyway. I\'m sure if enough money is donated we could swing that for ya.

SuperbowlSaints · 09-23-2003, 01:10 PM

i am goin to that game, and i\'ll tell you this, Brooks is gonna make Delhomme look like a HighSchool QB.

BillyCarpenter1 · 09-23-2003, 01:36 PM

JoeSam -- Don\'t drink the 08 kool-aid. It\'s pure poision !! I see you\'ve taken a couple of sips already, but I think me and saintsfan can save you, but you can\'t drink anymore. Joe --- for God\'s sake look at the evidence -- If this were a court of law -- 08 would be on death row and his last request would be for Delhomme to be the starting QB for the Saints.

08 -- I bet you have a Brooks\' voo-doo doll and poke it in the shoulder every time Aaron drops back to pass. Look at the talent. Look at the stats. Look at anything other that the hate that is blinding ya. Smile man. Smile with Brooks. He will take you to the promised land.....

SuperbowlSaints · 09-23-2003, 03:14 PM

08-

maybe its time you join the Brooks bandwagon, don\'t hate him, by ths time next year Brooks will be the best QB in the league, and Delhomme will be ridin the bench for the Bungles

WhoDat · 09-23-2003, 08:08 PM

I agree with Joe completely. By the way Saintfan - if ANYONE on this board has an agenda, it is YOU. You and Billy defend Brooks more ardently than ANY of us attack him. At least Billy has started to admit the man isn\'t perfect. I can\'t remember a time when you ever once conceded on this topic. No matter what we say about Aaron, we\'re just trying to discredit him b/c we have some vendetta against him.

WEll, I\'m about to flip that script. Nothing you say about Brooks is based on anything more than your undying love for him. Your agenda is to turn everyone on this board into an overly sensitive Brooks lover. In fact, you defend Aaron like he\'s your dad. Is he? Doesn\'t matter, from this day on, he is. Everything you say about AB is void b/c he\'s your dad and you defend your dad to any end.

Notice that Saintfan\'s first rant in this post mentioned how Brooks was throwing lasers? And to think, we were all talking about him not having any touch. Guess you helped prove that point.

Yeah, I\'m stirring the sh!t - and you all love me for it. ESPECIALLY Saintfan and Billy. I\'m giving them the chance to call me nuts and tell me why Brooks is the best quarterback to ever play the game yet again. Go ahead boys, we\'re all on the edge of our seats.

Sorry Joe, I know this stands in contrast to the spirit of your post. Everyone deserves the right to their opinion... I\'m just sick and tired of Saintfan saying that anyone who questions Brooks whatsoever has an agenda, while he is just some completely unbiased observer. Now that is RIDICULOUS!!!

AGAIN. EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD. RIDICULOUS IS NOT SPELLED WITH AN E!!! LOOK IT UP! You sound f*cking ignorant. R-i-d-i-c-u-l-o-u-s. Got it?

BillyCarpenter1 · 09-23-2003, 08:46 PM

WhoDat -- I know stupid people when I talk to one and you ain\'t stupid, so I know that you know that 08 truely does have an agenda. We can discuss it in detail if you like but you know. And while your agenda might not run as deep as 08\'s, there\'s no dening you don\'t particularly like Brooks either. The BIG difference between you and 08 is you don\'t try to tie a preceived Brooks\' weakness into every short coming the Saints have.

I don\'t see folks running around here starting posts on how great Brooks is. I see plenty blaming Brooks for damn near everything though. Criticizm goes along with the QB postion but you guys go to no end to drive it in the ground. I don\'t think I\'ve ever read a post by 08 that doesn\'t involve Aaron Brooks.

Another thing, I hear all this sh!t you criticize Brooks on, like reading defenses. First make sure you know how to read defenses before stating as fact that Brooks can\'t do it. How did you learn how to read defenses? By sitting in front of your TV on Sundays?? If it\'s that damn easy looks like anyone could to it, HUH?? You guys sound RIDICULOUS trying to come across like you\'re such student\'s of the game. Please, if you have so damn much knowledge of how to run a west coast offense, go apply for a damn coaching job.

What might make you and 08 sound much more crediable is if you critique your boy Delhomme like you do Brooks. Or, for that matter, anyone other than Brooks.

If you see me start posting how great or perfect Brooks is then feel free to tell me how much he sucks. Cause as long as y\'all keep STARTING posts that I feel are unjustified I will continue to call you on \'em. So, if you\'re sick now, you ain\'t seen nothing yet.

[Edited on 24/9/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

09-23-2003, 10:18 AM	#61
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	My thoughts on the game Let me put it like this. I\'m always here. I just have grown tired of the conspiracy theory that everyone is after Brooks. I think the reason most look at Aaron is because he is the quarterback and responsible for the ball at the beginning of every play. As the quarterback, most expect him to be the team leader on offense. Granted he can\'t make players perform or do it for them, but he can expect more and try to get more out of them. I agree with you on somethings but I agree with 08 on some too. I really don\'t think AB does a very good job reading defenses. It\'s not my job to figure out why or to try to fix it but someone needs to. I agree that he can only call plays called into him. He can however audible, but he has a hard time doing that when he doesn\'t have any idea what the defense is doing. Four years is a long time, it just seems to me that with that much time he\'d be farther along. Maybe time will work this out but in my experience, if I hadn\'t performed up to my bosses expectations, i\'d be home scratching my unemployed ass!
	Sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut and be thought an idiot, than to open it and remove all doubt!!!!! "Every time you think, you weaken the nation!" Moe Howard...The Three Stooges.

09-23-2003, 10:22 AM	#62
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	My thoughts on the game saintfan, what 08\'s doing this year is no different than what he did last year. You know that as well as I do. I guess it just doesn\'t bother me like it does some. I remember the two of you going at it last year, the way you two do it made it fun for those of us that remember. So if you want to go at it go on and do it. I\'m sure he won\'t back down to much. LOL

09-23-2003, 10:24 AM	#63
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	My thoughts on the game Forever the peacekeeper, you failed to acknowledge \"08\"\'s bias and agenda, and you simply can\'t deny it Joesam...cause it\'s there and we ALL know it whether the man makes sense every now and then or not. Are you donating to the fund or not? LOL

09-23-2003, 11:59 AM	#64
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	My thoughts on the game Saintsfan Do I get the Delhomme jersey too ??? He is a starter now.... :P
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09-23-2003, 12:06 PM	#65
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	My thoughts on the game Doesn\'t matter to me. They aren\'t worth much anyway. I\'m sure if enough money is donated we could swing that for ya.

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09-23-2003, 01:10 PM	#66
SuperbowlSaints Registered Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 90	My thoughts on the game i am goin to that game, and i\'ll tell you this, Brooks is gonna make Delhomme look like a HighSchool QB.
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09-23-2003, 01:36 PM	#67
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	My thoughts on the game JoeSam -- Don\'t drink the 08 kool-aid. It\'s pure poision !! I see you\'ve taken a couple of sips already, but I think me and saintsfan can save you, but you can\'t drink anymore. Joe --- for God\'s sake look at the evidence -- If this were a court of law -- 08 would be on death row and his last request would be for Delhomme to be the starting QB for the Saints. 08 -- I bet you have a Brooks\' voo-doo doll and poke it in the shoulder every time Aaron drops back to pass. Look at the talent. Look at the stats. Look at anything other that the hate that is blinding ya. Smile man. Smile with Brooks. He will take you to the promised land.....
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09-23-2003, 03:14 PM	#68
SuperbowlSaints Registered Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 90	My thoughts on the game 08- maybe its time you join the Brooks bandwagon, don\'t hate him, by ths time next year Brooks will be the best QB in the league, and Delhomme will be ridin the bench for the Bungles
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09-23-2003, 08:08 PM	#69
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	My thoughts on the game I agree with Joe completely. By the way Saintfan - if ANYONE on this board has an agenda, it is YOU. You and Billy defend Brooks more ardently than ANY of us attack him. At least Billy has started to admit the man isn\'t perfect. I can\'t remember a time when you ever once conceded on this topic. No matter what we say about Aaron, we\'re just trying to discredit him b/c we have some vendetta against him. WEll, I\'m about to flip that script. Nothing you say about Brooks is based on anything more than your undying love for him. Your agenda is to turn everyone on this board into an overly sensitive Brooks lover. In fact, you defend Aaron like he\'s your dad. Is he? Doesn\'t matter, from this day on, he is. Everything you say about AB is void b/c he\'s your dad and you defend your dad to any end. Notice that Saintfan\'s first rant in this post mentioned how Brooks was throwing lasers? And to think, we were all talking about him not having any touch. Guess you helped prove that point. Yeah, I\'m stirring the sh!t - and you all love me for it. ESPECIALLY Saintfan and Billy. I\'m giving them the chance to call me nuts and tell me why Brooks is the best quarterback to ever play the game yet again. Go ahead boys, we\'re all on the edge of our seats. Sorry Joe, I know this stands in contrast to the spirit of your post. Everyone deserves the right to their opinion... I\'m just sick and tired of Saintfan saying that anyone who questions Brooks whatsoever has an agenda, while he is just some completely unbiased observer. Now that is RIDICULOUS!!! AGAIN. EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD. RIDICULOUS IS NOT SPELLED WITH AN E!!! LOOK IT UP! You sound f*cking ignorant. R-i-d-i-c-u-l-o-u-s. Got it?
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09-23-2003, 08:46 PM	#70
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	My thoughts on the game WhoDat -- I know stupid people when I talk to one and you ain\'t stupid, so I know that you know that 08 truely does have an agenda. We can discuss it in detail if you like but you know. And while your agenda might not run as deep as 08\'s, there\'s no dening you don\'t particularly like Brooks either. The BIG difference between you and 08 is you don\'t try to tie a preceived Brooks\' weakness into every short coming the Saints have. I don\'t see folks running around here starting posts on how great Brooks is. I see plenty blaming Brooks for damn near everything though. Criticizm goes along with the QB postion but you guys go to no end to drive it in the ground. I don\'t think I\'ve ever read a post by 08 that doesn\'t involve Aaron Brooks. Another thing, I hear all this sh!t you criticize Brooks on, like reading defenses. First make sure you know how to read defenses before stating as fact that Brooks can\'t do it. How did you learn how to read defenses? By sitting in front of your TV on Sundays?? If it\'s that damn easy looks like anyone could to it, HUH?? You guys sound RIDICULOUS trying to come across like you\'re such student\'s of the game. Please, if you have so damn much knowledge of how to run a west coast offense, go apply for a damn coaching job. What might make you and 08 sound much more crediable is if you critique your boy Delhomme like you do Brooks. Or, for that matter, anyone other than Brooks. If you see me start posting how great or perfect Brooks is then feel free to tell me how much he sucks. Cause as long as y\'all keep STARTING posts that I feel are unjustified I will continue to call you on \'em. So, if you\'re sick now, you ain\'t seen nothing yet. [Edited on 24/9/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]
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