keith bullocks

CantonLegend · 03-08-2010, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by jtsaints

that would have to depend on a team liking him to know that. i sometimes wonder if merriman would fit with us. he was a beast pre injury but dont think he would fit with us. i hear seatle likes him. the whole usc thing. maybe we could get a pick from them. they draft high so it would prob be an early 2nd. i just think bush is replaceable. we dont miss him when he is hurt and when he is there he is kinda soft. plus fumble problems. i do think he ran hard in the SB though. actually lowered shoulders insted of just running out of bounds.

the problem, and the reason most trades like this dont happen is because not only do they have to give up a pick of a future player, but they have to value the player they trade for more than the player they could pick up in the draft

and with the uncertainty in reggie's health, its not very likely we will ever find a trade partner that will give us an early round pick....especially since they will be getting a running back who is really not a running back by definition and they could easily draft a starting RB in one of those early rounds who would probably be better than reggie at carrying the load

jtsaints · 03-08-2010, 10:34 PM

so what do you think about my thoughts on KC?

CantonLegend · 03-08-2010, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by jtsaints

so what do you think about my thoughts on KC?

IMO kansas city is going to focus on their defense this draft.....

im pretty sure they are content with jamaal charles at running back who averaged 5.9 ypc and only started 10 games but still managed to crack 1000 yards

they might want a running back for depth, but most backup running backs wouldnt garner an early round pick and i think thats all reggie would be if he were to go to kansas city

as for dorsey, many people want him because their fans of LSU as well

but im not so sure he is struggling in the 3-4 as many people claim.....he averages 50 tackles per season and would have no problem playing DE in a 3-4

as for our needs at DT.....IMO we need a NT more than another DT......dorsey is listed as just under 300 lbs and he would not fill a need at nose tackle

he is a good DT but would we want to use him as depth? he might start over ellis but what then? what would we do with ellis?

jtsaints · 03-08-2010, 11:10 PM

how bout your thoughts on derrick? i just saw they were bringing in rbs. other teams might be philly pitt to complement mendenhall sf to complement gore to name a few that might look at a trade. you are probably right a pick might be out of the ? but a good player or two might not.

CantonLegend · 03-08-2010, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by jtsaints

how bout your thoughts on derrick? i just saw they were bringing in rbs. other teams might be philly pitt to complement mendenhall sf to complement gore to name a few that might look at a trade. you are probably right a pick might be out of the ? but a good player or two might not.

im not really familiar with derrick johnson other than i know hes a solid contributor to the chiefs defense and is one of their leading tacklers from year to year

im not sure about pittsburgh because they are notorious for being a smash mouth football team and thats not exactly what i think of when someone mentions reggie bush

philly is an interesting prospect.....they have done deals with us before......who ru looking at from philly?

jtsaints · 03-08-2010, 11:22 PM

he was a first rounder a few years back that i wanted. this year wasnt as good because they went more to a 3 - 4 which he wasnt good at. ie vilma. they was letting him go but then put a tag on him. he isnt even a starter in their 3 - 4 scheme. i was just thowing out teams. let me look and see what i would do.

strato · 03-08-2010, 11:22 PM

Derrick played at UT..and was really wanted by Saints fans on draft day..he's a good player..But we just gave up one just as good..

jtsaints · 03-08-2010, 11:30 PM

he is younger and i would say better at this point and goin forward. not sure philly has anything we would want that they would be willing to give up in the front seven. i think KC has a few up front that we would like. maybe SF. they have a few and not sure how they feel about them.

03-08-2010, 10:31 PM	#11
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: keith bullocks Originally Posted by jtsaints that would have to depend on a team liking him to know that. i sometimes wonder if merriman would fit with us. he was a beast pre injury but dont think he would fit with us. i hear seatle likes him. the whole usc thing. maybe we could get a pick from them. they draft high so it would prob be an early 2nd. i just think bush is replaceable. we dont miss him when he is hurt and when he is there he is kinda soft. plus fumble problems. i do think he ran hard in the SB though. actually lowered shoulders insted of just running out of bounds. the problem, and the reason most trades like this dont happen is because not only do they have to give up a pick of a future player, but they have to value the player they trade for more than the player they could pick up in the draft and with the uncertainty in reggie's health, its not very likely we will ever find a trade partner that will give us an early round pick....especially since they will be getting a running back who is really not a running back by definition and they could easily draft a starting RB in one of those early rounds who would probably be better than reggie at carrying the load
	"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd

03-08-2010, 10:34 PM	#12
jtsaints 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 144	Re: keith bullocks so what do you think about my thoughts on KC?
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03-08-2010, 10:50 PM	#13
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: keith bullocks Originally Posted by jtsaints so what do you think about my thoughts on KC? IMO kansas city is going to focus on their defense this draft..... im pretty sure they are content with jamaal charles at running back who averaged 5.9 ypc and only started 10 games but still managed to crack 1000 yards they might want a running back for depth, but most backup running backs wouldnt garner an early round pick and i think thats all reggie would be if he were to go to kansas city as for dorsey, many people want him because their fans of LSU as well but im not so sure he is struggling in the 3-4 as many people claim.....he averages 50 tackles per season and would have no problem playing DE in a 3-4 as for our needs at DT.....IMO we need a NT more than another DT......dorsey is listed as just under 300 lbs and he would not fill a need at nose tackle he is a good DT but would we want to use him as depth? he might start over ellis but what then? what would we do with ellis?
	"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd

03-08-2010, 11:10 PM	#14
jtsaints 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 144	Re: keith bullocks how bout your thoughts on derrick? i just saw they were bringing in rbs. other teams might be philly pitt to complement mendenhall sf to complement gore to name a few that might look at a trade. you are probably right a pick might be out of the ? but a good player or two might not.
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03-08-2010, 11:17 PM	#15
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: keith bullocks Originally Posted by jtsaints how bout your thoughts on derrick? i just saw they were bringing in rbs. other teams might be philly pitt to complement mendenhall sf to complement gore to name a few that might look at a trade. you are probably right a pick might be out of the ? but a good player or two might not. im not really familiar with derrick johnson other than i know hes a solid contributor to the chiefs defense and is one of their leading tacklers from year to year im not sure about pittsburgh because they are notorious for being a smash mouth football team and thats not exactly what i think of when someone mentions reggie bush philly is an interesting prospect.....they have done deals with us before......who ru looking at from philly?

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03-08-2010, 11:22 PM	#16
jtsaints 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 144	Re: keith bullocks he was a first rounder a few years back that i wanted. this year wasnt as good because they went more to a 3 - 4 which he wasnt good at. ie vilma. they was letting him go but then put a tag on him. he isnt even a starter in their 3 - 4 scheme. i was just thowing out teams. let me look and see what i would do.
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03-08-2010, 11:22 PM	#17
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: keith bullocks Derrick played at UT..and was really wanted by Saints fans on draft day..he's a good player..But we just gave up one just as good..

03-08-2010, 11:30 PM	#18
jtsaints 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 144	Re: keith bullocks he is younger and i would say better at this point and goin forward. not sure philly has anything we would want that they would be willing to give up in the front seven. i think KC has a few up front that we would like. maybe SF. they have a few and not sure how they feel about them.
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