Step right up and place your bets!!!!

saintfan · 09-26-2003, 11:01 AM

Oh MY G-O-D!!! LummOx never has anyone been so right on target. There\'s one game in my memory that we lost and that I hold Brooks accountable for, and that\'s the Cleveland game last year. I\'m a little rough around the edges when it comes to defending Brooks in large part because I\'m fed up with comments like the ones our \"old\" and \"tired\" buddy \"08\" keeps posting. Rather than admit he has an agenda he tries to poke hols in Brooks\' performance all the while failing to acknowledge the REAL problems with this team that you so gracefully summed up in your last post.

JOESAM2002 · 09-26-2003, 12:13 PM

Good post Lumm. I agree with you. I just hate when everytime someone says anything about him having room for improvement we get slammed as not being good fans. If I\'m not mistaken, there has only been 1 perfect person. As I have said many times I like Aaron, I just think there are things he could do better.

As for not being a good fan, I just consider the source. Until perfection is achieved, there is always room for improvement.

saintz08 · 09-26-2003, 12:21 PM

There is an old Saying for quarterbacks .

\"Quarterbacks only gets credit for the pass when it hits the receiver in the numbers , every other pass gets credited to the receiver .\"

Post reads :

He has five guys standing in front of him that are consistently missing their assignments, that are forcing him to aid in the delay of the pass rush, forcing the running game to be highly ineffective and cause more reliance on the passing game. Our marquee WR is excelling at getting open, but like the bulk of our WR corp, has managed to drop the ball at only the most inopportune times.

Missed blocking assignments , do not usually lead to a delay of the pass rush . Usually the quarterback ends up on his back or the back caught in the backfield because of an accelerated pass rush due to a missed blocking assignment .

Titans lined up 9 in the box from time to time , Do you think they really were afraid of the passing game ?? Might be that they were spying Duece and looking to cut off the underneath routes .

Receivers could be hearing the footsteps and dropping the balls , this is ball placement and if a receiver gets bell rung one to many times on bad ball placement , it happens . Look at the pounding Stallworth took in Seattle .If memory serves me well , they took Stallworths helmet off a couple of times on those shots .

It is one thing to throw a deep ball to a receiver , it is entirely another thing to consistently complete a deep ball to a receiver and make the defense respect it and not even think of putting 8 in the box .

saintfan · 09-26-2003, 12:36 PM

08...you\'re old and tired and your constant attacks on Brooks are transparent. Hush up old man...

Joesam...you\'re buying into something that doesn\'t exist. NO body that I\'ve seen back Aaron Brooks has indicated (or attempted to indicate) that he was perfect. Quite the contrary. You\'re supposed to be reading all these posts man. Tell me WHO is indicating Brooks is perfect. Those of us that defend him only want to see things accurately represented which is something 08 continuously refusus to do.

saintz08 · 09-26-2003, 12:56 PM

Saintsfan

At 3 -0 , the old man sits back and takes notes .

At 1 -2 , it\'s time for some schoolin little boy .

lumm0x · 09-26-2003, 01:11 PM

I\'ve said before that Saintsfan and Billy have \"Brooks goggles\" and it\'s also clear 08 has his anti-Brooks Grand Dragon hood on.

Brooks has earned his criticisms in my opinion, but he is not the problem in the first three games. He has played well and my take is that if you think he was the cause of the losses or contributed to the loss in the \"mechanics\" of his actions on the field then you do have an agenda against him. If he messes up a play by failing to execute the play in a sound mechanical manner then he is at fault. If he executes a play that is callled in to him exactly how he is asked to do it, and the play fails to be productive, how is that his fault? The play calling sucks and he can efficiently run all the terrible plays all day long and we\'ll lose. If he gets plays that will move the chains and he botches a throw or misses a read then it\'s his fault.

TheOriginalSwampdog · 09-26-2003, 01:57 PM

Bye Bye Brooksie. Don\'t let the door hit ya\' where the good lord split ya. DRAFT ELI MANNING AND SAVE THIS FRANCHISE!

BlackandBlue · 09-26-2003, 02:12 PM

If I\'m not mistaken, there has only been 1 perfect person.

You are correct, and let me tell you, it\'s not easy.

saintz08 · 09-27-2003, 02:03 AM

Alright Lummox ,

I like it , you are going to exploit my man coverage with :
I won\'t run the ball once until you drop to nickle D and even then I\'ll throw some deep stuff to keep the DB\'s rocking the heels.

You are going to call my defense ?

Now honestly , How many deep balls in 2+ years have you seen Brooks complete ???

saintfan · 09-26-2003, 02:52 PM

1-2 for sure, but NOT because of Brooks. The teacher needs to see you after class.

09-26-2003, 11:01 AM	#1
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Step right up and place your bets!!!! Oh MY G-O-D!!! LummOx never has anyone been so right on target. There\'s one game in my memory that we lost and that I hold Brooks accountable for, and that\'s the Cleveland game last year. I\'m a little rough around the edges when it comes to defending Brooks in large part because I\'m fed up with comments like the ones our \"old\" and \"tired\" buddy \"08\" keeps posting. Rather than admit he has an agenda he tries to poke hols in Brooks\' performance all the while failing to acknowledge the REAL problems with this team that you so gracefully summed up in your last post.
	C'mon Man...

09-26-2003, 12:13 PM	#2
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Step right up and place your bets!!!! Good post Lumm. I agree with you. I just hate when everytime someone says anything about him having room for improvement we get slammed as not being good fans. If I\'m not mistaken, there has only been 1 perfect person. As I have said many times I like Aaron, I just think there are things he could do better. As for not being a good fan, I just consider the source. Until perfection is achieved, there is always room for improvement.

09-26-2003, 12:21 PM	#3
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Step right up and place your bets!!!! There is an old Saying for quarterbacks . \"Quarterbacks only gets credit for the pass when it hits the receiver in the numbers , every other pass gets credited to the receiver .\" Post reads : He has five guys standing in front of him that are consistently missing their assignments, that are forcing him to aid in the delay of the pass rush, forcing the running game to be highly ineffective and cause more reliance on the passing game. Our marquee WR is excelling at getting open, but like the bulk of our WR corp, has managed to drop the ball at only the most inopportune times. Missed blocking assignments , do not usually lead to a delay of the pass rush . Usually the quarterback ends up on his back or the back caught in the backfield because of an accelerated pass rush due to a missed blocking assignment . Titans lined up 9 in the box from time to time , Do you think they really were afraid of the passing game ?? Might be that they were spying Duece and looking to cut off the underneath routes . Receivers could be hearing the footsteps and dropping the balls , this is ball placement and if a receiver gets bell rung one to many times on bad ball placement , it happens . Look at the pounding Stallworth took in Seattle .If memory serves me well , they took Stallworths helmet off a couple of times on those shots . It is one thing to throw a deep ball to a receiver , it is entirely another thing to consistently complete a deep ball to a receiver and make the defense respect it and not even think of putting 8 in the box .
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	\"Americans play to win at all times. I wouldn\'t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.\" - George S. Patton On another note, I\'ll take a bite of that crow 08. - Saintfan Brooks is a moron!! - Halo

09-26-2003, 12:36 PM	#4
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Step right up and place your bets!!!! 08...you\'re old and tired and your constant attacks on Brooks are transparent. Hush up old man... Joesam...you\'re buying into something that doesn\'t exist. NO body that I\'ve seen back Aaron Brooks has indicated (or attempted to indicate) that he was perfect. Quite the contrary. You\'re supposed to be reading all these posts man. Tell me WHO is indicating Brooks is perfect. Those of us that defend him only want to see things accurately represented which is something 08 continuously refusus to do.

09-26-2003, 12:56 PM	#5
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Step right up and place your bets!!!! Saintsfan At 3 -0 , the old man sits back and takes notes . At 1 -2 , it\'s time for some schoolin little boy .
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09-26-2003, 01:11 PM	#6
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Step right up and place your bets!!!! I\'ve said before that Saintsfan and Billy have \"Brooks goggles\" and it\'s also clear 08 has his anti-Brooks Grand Dragon hood on. Brooks has earned his criticisms in my opinion, but he is not the problem in the first three games. He has played well and my take is that if you think he was the cause of the losses or contributed to the loss in the \"mechanics\" of his actions on the field then you do have an agenda against him. If he messes up a play by failing to execute the play in a sound mechanical manner then he is at fault. If he executes a play that is callled in to him exactly how he is asked to do it, and the play fails to be productive, how is that his fault? The play calling sucks and he can efficiently run all the terrible plays all day long and we\'ll lose. If he gets plays that will move the chains and he botches a throw or misses a read then it\'s his fault.

09-26-2003, 01:57 PM	#7
TheOriginalSwampdog 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 215	Step right up and place your bets!!!! Bye Bye Brooksie. Don\'t let the door hit ya\' where the good lord split ya. DRAFT ELI MANNING AND SAVE THIS FRANCHISE!

09-26-2003, 02:12 PM	#8
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Step right up and place your bets!!!! If I\'m not mistaken, there has only been 1 perfect person. You are correct, and let me tell you, it\'s not easy.

09-27-2003, 02:03 AM	#9
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Step right up and place your bets!!!! Alright Lummox , I like it , you are going to exploit my man coverage with : I won\'t run the ball once until you drop to nickle D and even then I\'ll throw some deep stuff to keep the DB\'s rocking the heels. You are going to call my defense ? Now honestly , How many deep balls in 2+ years have you seen Brooks complete ???
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09-26-2003, 02:52 PM	#10
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Step right up and place your bets!!!! 1-2 for sure, but NOT because of Brooks. The teacher needs to see you after class.