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RockyMountainSaint 03-10-2010 03:10 PM

Sharper "Not feeling the love" from Saints
 
Sharper isn't feeling the love from the Saints
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 10, 2010 3:40 PM ET
Darren Sharper wants to return to the Saints; he's just not feeling the love yet.

"If the love was right, that would have been taken care of. The love would have been reciprocated," said Sharper to Mike Triplette of the New Orleans Times-Picayune.

Sharper plans to make some free agent visits in a week or two, when his surgically repaired knee has healed. He speculated that he might be a good fit with the Jets.

"The New York teams, there's something about the big lights and the big city that fits me, and I know I would fit there," Sharper said.

The 34-year-old wants a pay hike from his $1.7 million contract. But the Saints are wisely unwilling to break the bank for an older player, just like they were with Scott Fujita.

Sharper says he plans to play for a few more years and uses Rod Woodson as an example of someone that played outstanding well into his mid-thirties.

I watched Rod Woodson. I played Tecmo Super Bowl as Rod Woodson. Sorry Darren, you are no Rod Woodson.
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SaintPauly 03-10-2010 03:14 PM

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This is getting really old, really fast.....

strato 03-10-2010 03:20 PM

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yep...somebody please sign him

CantonLegend 03-10-2010 03:37 PM

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hey guess what......ur gonna be a saint.....quit ur belly achin and be happy with ur super bowl ring......

oh and sean payton and mickey loomis said ur welcome for not giving up on u after the rest of the league had

NEXTPROBOWLER 03-10-2010 03:46 PM

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does he even remember the move addai put on him in the superbowl hahaha he starting to get slower, i kinda interested in chip or malcom at safety to be honest...

RaginCajun83 03-10-2010 03:53 PM

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This is getting old, sign him or let him walk. Seems like someone wants to bite the hand that fed them last offseason

strato 03-10-2010 03:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 212577)
This is getting old, sign him or let him walk. Seems like someone wants to bite the hand that fed them last offseason

Yeah on both sides.....lol

breesfan27 03-10-2010 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 212577)
This is getting old, sign him or let him walk. Seems like someone wants to bite the hand that fed them last offseason

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subguy 03-10-2010 04:16 PM

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The drama is always played out this way....the player never understands, the team doesn't want to talk about it. I do believe he will get more than the 1.7 million but it is anyones guess as to how much more.

Sir Psycho Sexy 03-10-2010 04:22 PM

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Sharper needs to remember he's a one (but good) trick pony that fits into certain schemes. He's had a great career but he's at the end of it. As far as not showing the love. We signed him when no one else would and he got a Ring out if it.

Cruize 03-10-2010 04:37 PM

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Harper is not good in coverage. The Saints need Sharper. If more cash than what the Saints are offering is what's important to Sharper, I wish him well.

cajun911 03-10-2010 04:51 PM

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Yeah, definitely time for something to happen either way..

dizzle88 03-10-2010 04:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Psycho Sexy (Post 212583)
Sharper needs to remember he's a one (but good) trick pony that fits into certain schemes. He's had a great career but he's at the end of it. As far as not showing the love. We signed him when no one else would and he got a Ring out if it.

Totally agree, sharper achieved the very thing he was chasin for 13 years, the superbowl championship. He fits the system, but sharpers gotta realize what sort of opportunity this is

falconhater 03-10-2010 07:36 PM

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hes good to have back there for his leadership and veteran savvy but he is not a 6million dollar man... if he can get that from some bottom dweller trying to climb back into the world of relevance good for him. If he wants a legitimate shot at another ring he needs to accept his role on this team for a reasonable fee maybe 5mil for 2 years and help develop players like jenkins and young

homerj07 03-10-2010 07:41 PM

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MOney screws it all up. WHy don't people have loyalty anymore??

We were one of few teams willing to give hm a shot. He finally got is SB ring & now he whines like a little bee-atch??

Speedy Ron 03-10-2010 07:46 PM

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hate to say it but im starting to turn on him. all he has done this offseason is *****. he's the only member on this team that has complained like this since the payton era. let him walk and lets get OJ Atogwe. i cant stand cry babies.

Turbo Saint 03-10-2010 08:22 PM

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yea it's getting annoying...he needs to chill out and just wait. i like the guy, but damn, STFU, do you want to go to the browns?!

PAIN- 03-10-2010 09:25 PM

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LOL, as punishment for crying like a school girl, we should send him to Oakland! Just being stupid!

OldMaid 03-10-2010 09:42 PM

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Hey, what is good for Fujita is good for Sharper and anybody else.
Really where are these posts coming from. This is not getting old.
Sharper would be stupid not to go for the biggest payday he can at this point in his career.
Yeah, it is sad to see the Saints SB team leaving, but that is how it goes.
I don't like contracts being talked about by players and their agents in the press. Do it behind the scenes. Make the decision.

Positive side instead of me posting on and on how the Saints SB players , FA, seasoned vets,etc. are going for the biggest pay, who knows what team will get in the draft. I amgoing to look at it that way.
TheSaints might pick up some really good players without the hype. Some teams could get some draftees with all the hype and no game.


Is the coach and staff more impt. or is the team more impt?
Payton and staff are a good coaching staff. The players they had, have been good, fair, really good, but the coaches worked it.Old debate of which is more impt? Coaches or players.
I think both are, but I really like how Payton and staff molded the 2009 team. I think Payton and staff are a high calibur coaching team to be under and that can get a lot of good-to- diamonds in the rough,wanting to come to the Saints.:bng:

Saint_LB 03-11-2010 03:50 AM

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Oh...I so hate it when people give others advice that they themselves would not heed.

The 2nd ring is nowhere in site or on the radar screen compared to the first...and IMO...even the 1st doesn't trump a giant payday. In other words...a ring is nice but you'd be in trouble if you tried to eat it.

I know that there is nobody here that would turn down 5 mil/year at any place on the planet to play for 3 in NO.

Some people are just talking through their heart and not letting their brain intervene, IMO.

Choupique 03-11-2010 05:17 AM

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What he might be feeling is his knee.

RockyMountainSaint 03-11-2010 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 212641)
Oh...I so hate it when people give others advice that they themselves would not heed.

The 2nd ring is nowhere in site or on the radar screen compared to the first...and IMO...even the 1st doesn't trump a giant payday. In other words...a ring is nice but you'd be in trouble if you tried to eat it.

I know that there is nobody here that would turn down 5 mil/year at any place on the planet to play for 3 in NO.

Some people are just talking through their heart and not letting their brain intervene, IMO.

What about Sharper's legacy? His life as an active NFL player vs his life as a retired NFL player?
He was a part of the Packers' community and to a lesser extent the Vikes' as well. Canton OH is chock full of Packers. He is not considered one of their greats. Starr yes. Sharper, no.

His time in Minnesota probably won't be his fondest memories, nor will his play there be remembered as his best.

He is a Super Bowl Champion Saint now. He will always be associated with the wonderful feelings that we, as fans have. Our 1st (hopefully of many) Championship! Sharper's 1st too.

We LOVE our players! We are new to this "Champions" stuff, but we are well versed in appreciating our players. Whether it be HOF Saint "City Champ" Rickey Jackson, Sam Mills, Vaughn Dunbar, Pat Swilling or nearly all that we have seen come and go. We LOVE them! They are Saints!

Darren is in a position to be remembered as a damn good Safety in Green Bay, a good Safety in Minnesota, or a GOD in Louisiana!

His life after football here in La would be pretty nice I think.

Saint_LB 03-11-2010 05:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 212648)
What about Sharper's legacy? His life as an active NFL player vs his life as a retired NFL player?
He was a part of the Packers' community and to a lesser extent the Vikes' as well. Canton OH is chock full of Packers. He is not considered one of their greats. Starr yes. Sharper, no.

His time in Minnesota probably won't be his fondest memories, nor will his play there be remembered as his best.

He is a Super Bowl Champion Saint now. He will always be associated with the wonderful feelings that we, as fans have. Our 1st (hopefully of many) Championship! Sharper's 1st too.

We LOVE our players! We are new to this "Champions" stuff, but we are well versed in appreciating our players. Whether it be HOF Saint "City Champ" Rickey Jackson, Sam Mills, Vaughn Dunbar, Pat Swilling or nearly all that we have seen come and go. We LOVE them! They are Saints!

Darren is in a position to be remembered as a damn good Safety in Green Bay, a good Safety in Minnesota, or a GOD in Louisiana!

His life after football here in La would be pretty nice I think.

I understand all that...and they are great sentiments...however, I just don't think the average professional athlete is very concerned...with very being the operative word...about their legacy. I mean...they care...I just think they care about money and securing their retirement more.

The ol' sayin' that "money talks and BS walks" certainly applies here. Again, JMO.

DrewDat 03-11-2010 06:53 AM

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I totally agree with Sir Psycho!!! Couldnt have said it better

ScottF 03-11-2010 10:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 212641)

I know that there is nobody here that would turn down 5 mil/year at any place on the planet to play for 3 in NO.

Some people are just talking through their heart and not letting their brain intervene, IMO.

Well put.

As far as Sharper not feeling the love, the bottom line is he doesn't really want the love, he wants the payday.

QBREES9 03-11-2010 12:36 PM

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Thats to bad. You just can't over pay for someone. Sharper had a great year last year. Do we really think he can repeat it. I do want him back.

Turbo Saint 03-11-2010 04:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 212680)
Well put.

As far as Sharper not feeling the love, the bottom line is he doesn't really want the love, he wants the payday.


agreed with the latter...but to the statement that 3 to 5 anywhere on the planet...BS, location is #1 for me. job's a job, but you gotta be happy where you go home at night. (nfl players can probably fly anywhere, but my point stands).

SaintPauly 03-11-2010 04:57 PM

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I said this earlier guys, and I'm going to say it again. I don't blame ANYONE for wanting to get paid
for a good job done, scheme, or no scheme, HE did the work, not us, and not the coaching staff, or management.
Everyone wants to get paid for their work. If u guys want to think this way, then how about every player, for every
team, get paid the exact same amount? If its a team game, then how about the entire team get paid the same?
We all know that isn't going to happen. Players who get the bigger paychecks, get them because they earned them.
Sharper earned this, I mean COME ON. We were all going nuts over this guy, almost the entire season, and now
we are turning on him, questioning HIS loyalty? This is ridiculous. He did the job asked of him, now he deserves
to get paid for it. That's it.

stockman311 03-11-2010 04:58 PM

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Like I said, Porter and Greer had more to do with his success than he had to do with theirs.
I find it funny how some players b*tch and moan when their team puts the franchise tag, and Sharper was damn near begging us to do it. Now that he has his freedom he is upset that we are letting him test the market. At some point the realization of the situation will become apparent. No team is going to over extend in years or dollars in this economy on a 34 year old safety.

PAIN- 03-11-2010 07:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintpaul25 (Post 212740)
I said this earlier guys, and I'm going to say it again. I don't blame ANYONE for wanting to get paid
for a good job done, scheme, or no scheme, HE did the work, not us, and not the coaching staff, or management.
Everyone wants to get paid for their work. If u guys want to think this way, then how about every player, for every
team, get paid the exact same amount? If its a team game, then how about the entire team get paid the same?
We all know that isn't going to happen. Players who get the bigger paychecks, get them because they earned them.
Sharper earned this, I mean COME ON. We were all going nuts over this guy, almost the entire season, and now
we are turning on him, questioning HIS loyalty? This is ridiculous. He did the job asked of him, now he deserves
to get paid for it. That's it.

Hold on a second, he got paid by the saints last year when nobody else would pay him. He's not worth what he wants. I have no problem with players wanting the big pay day, but don't you dare say that he hasn't been shown the love! We took him in when nobody wanted him, and yes he did an excellent job. So, if he wants to get his ass kicked in Chicago or wherever, go for it Sharp! He's not our future anyway, so get a good front seven, so we have a pass rush. Greer and Porter on the corners, and i'll take jenkins at safety.

Turbo Saint 03-11-2010 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stockman311 (Post 212741)
Like I said, Porter and Greer had more to do with his success than he had to do with theirs.
I find it funny how some players b*tch and moan when their team puts the franchise tag, and Sharper was damn near begging us to do it. Now that he has his freedom he is upset that we are letting him test the market. At some point the realization of the situation will become apparent. No team is going to over extend in years or dollars in this economy on a 34 year old safety.

i completely agree...

i would take less (but comparable for the field) money to work in san diego than more money to work in alabama...that simple. who wouldn't want that?

Saint_LB 03-12-2010 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbo Saint (Post 212735)
agreed with the latter...but to the statement that 3 to 5 anywhere on the planet...BS, location is #1 for me. job's a job, but you gotta be happy where you go home at night. (nfl players can probably fly anywhere, but my point stands).

And I'm calling BS on you...it's easy to say that you would turn down an extra 2 million when it's not really an alternative.

It's only 1 year. I could put up with anything for 1 year for an extra 2 million.

Hell...I find myself in WV today for an extra 45K. I don't like it here...and I will most definitely be leaving soon as my contract is up in 1 more month...but I came here for the extra 45K. That's $1,999,955.00 less than the 2 mil I was referring to.

I still don't think you've really thought it out...but, jmo.

Edit--Oh yeah...one other thing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo Saint
but you gotta be happy where you go home at night.

This statement is true...but have you thought about the possibility of someone being extremely unhappy every night he goes home thinking about the 2 million he left on the street?

Turbo Saint 03-12-2010 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 212823)
And I'm calling BS on you...it's easy to say that you would turn down an extra 2 million when it's not really an alternative.

It's only 1 year. I could put up with anything for 1 year for an extra 2 million.

Hell...I find myself in WV today for an extra 45K. I don't like it here...and I will most definitely be leaving soon as my contract is up in 1 more month...but I came here for the extra 45K. That's $1,999,955.00 less than the 2 mil I was referring to.

I still don't think you've really thought it out...but, jmo.

Edit--Oh yeah...one other thing.


This statement is true...but have you thought about the possibility of someone being extremely unhappy every night he goes home thinking about the 2 million he left on the street?


more reverted BS calls...3 mill or 5 mil...what's the difference, really? a 5000sqft house vs a 10k sqft house? come on. the difference is more understandable at a middle class level, but at his level, it's about the team and the locale IMO. your math is wrong too, btw :P

:bng:

stockman311 03-12-2010 11:33 AM

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Loomis to WWL this morning:

Loomis: "I got all the love in the world for Darren Sharper. I just don’t have all the money in the world for Darren.....

NOLA54 03-12-2010 12:17 PM

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Greed is thicker than loyalty. You can give loyalty but don't expect it in return. I wonder how many Saints jerserys with the #44 were sold? We embraced him and this is how it ends? I guess the Super Bowl doesn't mean anything to him either.

Saint_LB 03-12-2010 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbo Saint (Post 212878)
your math is wrong too,

Oops! Good catch...I thought something looked funny about that. Anyway, you get the point, I think.

I hope for your sake that you get the opportunity to turn down an extra 2 million a year and are able to tell me about it.

CantonLegend 03-12-2010 02:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo Saint (Post 212878)
more reverted BS calls...3 mill or 5 mil...what's the difference, really? a 5000sqft house vs a 10k sqft house? come on. the difference is more understandable at a middle class level, but at his level, it's about the team and the locale IMO. your math is wrong too, btw :P

:bng:

2 million dollars is a lot of money no matter who you are

73Saint 03-12-2010 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NOLA54 (Post 212899)
Greed is thicker than loyalty. You can give loyalty but don't expect it in return. I wonder how many Saints jerserys with the #44 were sold? We embraced him and this is how it ends? I guess the Super Bowl doesn't mean anything to him either.


It's actually #42. Just sayin':)

Danno 03-12-2010 05:10 PM

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I wonder how much of the 2009 success was Darren Sharper being a lot better than anyone thought, or Gregg Williams defense making just about any above average FS look phenominal.

Personally I think Gregg Williams and Sean Payton know exactly how much of the success was really Darren Sharper and how much was really Gregg Williams.

IIRC, there was very little interest in Sharper last off-season and I think he was our 2nd choice. I know we offered Sensabaugh a 3 year deal.

OldMaid 03-12-2010 06:30 PM

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Confused here??????:confused:
Why so hard on Sharper? Just asking,just asking. The tone of this thread is rather odd.
Yeah, the guy is 34 and just came off a SB winning team.
He wants to use that leverage and the work of his last year to get the biggest pay day he can.
The Saints cannot give him a pay he wants and will not do so and that is fine.
Soooooo, Sharper's (agents) will shop him around out there for the biggest pay day he can get.
So what if he ends up at Buffalo, Detroit or worst?
He'll play for big pay a year and call it a career over. Afterbeing part of a SB winning team, there is really no place to go but to the bank.
Another SB win or try for any team is very hard to do.
Fujita is in Cleveland.
Hey, the same thing Sharper is doing, Fujita did and we all wished him well etc.
Why not the same thing for Sharper?
This is the NFL ( Not For Long).
All of this loyalty talk and talk on how Sharper should look for the less pay day he can get is really silly.
Would you if you were Sharper ? No.
Would you if you were Fujita? No.


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