Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints (Cleveland signs Jake)

Saint_LB · 03-16-2010, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

He was not forced out of town.

To me, he was forced out of town. When you are not allowed to start when the starter obviously is injured, then you know right there that you probably aren't going to get a chance unless the starter's arm gets ripped off.

As it was, he saw a better chance to win a starting job in Carolina...and ultimately he was right.

Haslett and crew mortgaged the farm on AB and we were force-fed the smiling idiot even when he couldn't get the job done physically. If I would have been in JD's situation, I'm sure I would have done the same thing...and I'm sure he's glad he went there, too.

saintfan · 03-16-2010, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

To me, he was forced out of town. When you are not allowed to start when the starter obviously is injured, then you know right there that you probably aren't going to get a chance unless the starter's arm gets ripped off.

As it was, he saw a better chance to win a starting job in Carolina...and ultimately he was right.

Haslett and crew mortgaged the farm on AB and we were force-fed the smiling idiot even when he couldn't get the job done physically. If I would have been in JD's situation, I'm sure I would have done the same thing...and I'm sure he's glad he went there, too.

Well, we know which side of the debate you were on. I think it's funny that every discussion about Delhomme comes back to Brooks when Delhomme was undrafted, cut several times, and failed to crack the starting lineup for at least three coaches, yet it all gets washed down to Jake being 'robbed' by Haz and Brooks.

If you tell yourself something long enough you eventually begin to think it's true. I think this is what has happened to a lot of Jake Delhomme fans.

Saint_LB · 03-17-2010, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Well, we know which side of the debate you were on. I think it's funny that every discussion about Delhomme comes back to Brooks when Delhomme was undrafted, cut several times, and failed to crack the starting lineup for at least three coaches, yet it all gets washed down to Jake being 'robbed' by Haz and Brooks.

If you tell yourself something long enough you eventually begin to think it's true. I think this is what has happened to a lot of Jake Delhomme fans.

Give me a break. Where is AB today? Where is JD?

Nobody is saying JD is the greatest thing since sliced bread...nor am I saying that I'm disappointed. As I said earlier, I'm glad it worked out the way it did.

On the other hand, if you can't recognize that JD was at least as capable as AB as a starter, then it is my opinion that you are the one who was biased in the whole thing.

AB had two things going against him. He didn't know when to take a sack or throw it away...consequently providing yards and yards of AFV material...
and even more agitating were the smiles that always followed.

CantonLegend · 03-17-2010, 07:43 AM

most QBs would rather retire than go play for cleveland.....cleveland is where you go to ruin a career

Saint_LB · 03-17-2010, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

most QBs would rather retire than go play for cleveland.....cleveland is where you go to ruin a career

Yes...yes they do. Maybe this entered into Jake's thinking. It's like, "Hey, I got nothing to lose."

Can you imagine what a jolt to his career it could be if somehow he managed to guide the Brownies to the playoffs...or God forbid...further on?

Choupique · 03-17-2010, 07:46 AM

cleveland is where you go to ruin a career

Was.

Things are changing in Cleveland. They actually have a brain in the front office now.

VillainAgain · 03-17-2010, 11:07 AM

Just like our Super Bowl Victory, BLESSED THE LORD ON THIS GLORIOUS DAY!!!! He's washed up I'll take brunell holding a clip board for $300 please

CantonLegend · 03-17-2010, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

Yes...yes they do. Maybe this entered into Jake's thinking. It's like, "Hey, I got nothing to lose."

Can you imagine what a jolt to his career it could be if somehow he managed to guide the Brownies to the playoffs...or God forbid...further on?

Originally Posted by Choupique

Was.

Things are changing in Cleveland. They actually have a brain in the front office now.

i just dont see it

right when they get some good players in, they get rid of some quality players

look at the DT they traded to the lions....they just traded one of their best LBs to the raiders....and even tho they brought in fujita, they lost brodney poole and let go of hank fraley

its nice to see a giant overhaul like this, but is it for the better of the team? i dont know yet......they are still in a pretty deep hole

the good thing is that mike holmgren knows how to run a team and eric mangini knows how to draft

saintfan · 03-17-2010, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

Give me a break. Where is AB today? Where is JD?

Nobody is saying JD is the greatest thing since sliced bread...nor am I saying that I'm disappointed. As I said earlier, I'm glad it worked out the way it did.

On the other hand, if you can't recognize that JD was at least as capable as AB as a starter, then it is my opinion that you are the one who was biased in the whole thing.

AB had two things going against him. He didn't know when to take a sack or throw it away...consequently providing yards and yards of AFV material...
and even more agitating were the smiles that always followed.

Jake didn't have 1/10th the Upside Brooks had when all that drama started. Anything you or anyone else knew or knows about Jake came from AFTER he bolted New Orleans for a backup job in Carolina.

Just curious to know what you think it is that Jake did when the pressure was on. Did he 'know how to take a sack'? His numbers suggested he preferred to thow air balls up for grabs and get them intercepted. I've watched him do it time after time. So have you.

But must we talk about Brooks & Haz to discuss Jake? I don't think so, but it seems I'm in the minority. At any rate, we can discuss Jake any time. It's an easy argument to win if you're on my side of the fence and you believe what the statistics show you.

SaintPauly · 03-17-2010, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

most QBs would rather retire than go play for cleveland.....cleveland is where you go to ruin a career

Just remember, it wasn't that long ago, when New Orleans was considered an NFL graveyard as well. It only takes one championship to change that mentallity. We of all people should know that.

03-16-2010, 02:57 PM	#111
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints (Cleveland signs Jake) Originally Posted by saintfan He was not forced out of town. To me, he was forced out of town. When you are not allowed to start when the starter obviously is injured, then you know right there that you probably aren't going to get a chance unless the starter's arm gets ripped off. As it was, he saw a better chance to win a starting job in Carolina...and ultimately he was right. Haslett and crew mortgaged the farm on AB and we were force-fed the smiling idiot even when he couldn't get the job done physically. If I would have been in JD's situation, I'm sure I would have done the same thing...and I'm sure he's glad he went there, too.
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03-16-2010, 04:20 PM	#112
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints (Cleveland signs Jake) Originally Posted by Saint_LB To me, he was forced out of town. When you are not allowed to start when the starter obviously is injured, then you know right there that you probably aren't going to get a chance unless the starter's arm gets ripped off. As it was, he saw a better chance to win a starting job in Carolina...and ultimately he was right. Haslett and crew mortgaged the farm on AB and we were force-fed the smiling idiot even when he couldn't get the job done physically. If I would have been in JD's situation, I'm sure I would have done the same thing...and I'm sure he's glad he went there, too. Well, we know which side of the debate you were on. I think it's funny that every discussion about Delhomme comes back to Brooks when Delhomme was undrafted, cut several times, and failed to crack the starting lineup for at least three coaches, yet it all gets washed down to Jake being 'robbed' by Haz and Brooks. If you tell yourself something long enough you eventually begin to think it's true. I think this is what has happened to a lot of Jake Delhomme fans.

03-17-2010, 07:34 AM	#113
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints (Cleveland signs Jake) Originally Posted by saintfan Well, we know which side of the debate you were on. I think it's funny that every discussion about Delhomme comes back to Brooks when Delhomme was undrafted, cut several times, and failed to crack the starting lineup for at least three coaches, yet it all gets washed down to Jake being 'robbed' by Haz and Brooks. If you tell yourself something long enough you eventually begin to think it's true. I think this is what has happened to a lot of Jake Delhomme fans. Give me a break. Where is AB today? Where is JD? Nobody is saying JD is the greatest thing since sliced bread...nor am I saying that I'm disappointed. As I said earlier, I'm glad it worked out the way it did. On the other hand, if you can't recognize that JD was at least as capable as AB as a starter, then it is my opinion that you are the one who was biased in the whole thing. AB had two things going against him. He didn't know when to take a sack or throw it away...consequently providing yards and yards of AFV material... and even more agitating were the smiles that always followed.
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03-17-2010, 07:43 AM	#114
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Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints (Cleveland signs Jake) Originally Posted by CantonLegend most QBs would rather retire than go play for cleveland.....cleveland is where you go to ruin a career Yes...yes they do. Maybe this entered into Jake's thinking. It's like, "Hey, I got nothing to lose." Can you imagine what a jolt to his career it could be if somehow he managed to guide the Brownies to the playoffs...or God forbid...further on?
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03-17-2010, 02:54 PM	#118
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints (Cleveland signs Jake) Originally Posted by Saint_LB Yes...yes they do. Maybe this entered into Jake's thinking. It's like, "Hey, I got nothing to lose." Can you imagine what a jolt to his career it could be if somehow he managed to guide the Brownies to the playoffs...or God forbid...further on? Originally Posted by Choupique Was. Things are changing in Cleveland. They actually have a brain in the front office now. i just dont see it right when they get some good players in, they get rid of some quality players look at the DT they traded to the lions....they just traded one of their best LBs to the raiders....and even tho they brought in fujita, they lost brodney poole and let go of hank fraley its nice to see a giant overhaul like this, but is it for the better of the team? i dont know yet......they are still in a pretty deep hole the good thing is that mike holmgren knows how to run a team and eric mangini knows how to draft
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03-17-2010, 04:21 PM	#119
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints (Cleveland signs Jake) Originally Posted by Saint_LB Give me a break. Where is AB today? Where is JD? Nobody is saying JD is the greatest thing since sliced bread...nor am I saying that I'm disappointed. As I said earlier, I'm glad it worked out the way it did. On the other hand, if you can't recognize that JD was at least as capable as AB as a starter, then it is my opinion that you are the one who was biased in the whole thing. AB had two things going against him. He didn't know when to take a sack or throw it away...consequently providing yards and yards of AFV material... and even more agitating were the smiles that always followed. Jake didn't have 1/10th the Upside Brooks had when all that drama started. Anything you or anyone else knew or knows about Jake came from AFTER he bolted New Orleans for a backup job in Carolina. Just curious to know what you think it is that Jake did when the pressure was on. Did he 'know how to take a sack'? His numbers suggested he preferred to thow air balls up for grabs and get them intercepted. I've watched him do it time after time. So have you. But must we talk about Brooks & Haz to discuss Jake? I don't think so, but it seems I'm in the minority. At any rate, we can discuss Jake any time. It's an easy argument to win if you're on my side of the fence and you believe what the statistics show you.
	C'mon Man...

03-17-2010, 07:59 PM	#120
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Jake Delhomme to Visit Saints (Cleveland signs Jake) Originally Posted by CantonLegend most QBs would rather retire than go play for cleveland.....cleveland is where you go to ruin a career Just remember, it wasn't that long ago, when New Orleans was considered an NFL graveyard as well. It only takes one championship to change that mentallity. We of all people should know that.