Back-up QB options?

CantonLegend · 03-18-2010, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL

Oh Ok. Because Dinkins was in the game Brunell had a poor performance. Who really has their eyes closed?

thats what you got out of my post? ....amazing

stuff like this makes me wonder if its worth my time

SAINT_MICHAEL · 03-18-2010, 03:41 PM

My apologies. You capitalizing his name made it seem like you put great importance to the point, so I responded to it. So it is ok for you to answer only certain points in other people's posts, but it’s not for others to do the same thing to you? Amazing! Case in point you ignoring my point about Brunell’s failure to hold the starting jobs in Jacksonville and Washington and for three years being unable to find a team that wants him as the starter. Instead you just keep going back to that one Carolina game and making excuses as to why he did poorly as if that is the only evidence that his game is not what it used to be. It isn't worth your time because you've got nothing except (way) past accomplishments to go with. He has not been a successful starting NFL QB for at least 4 years now.

CantonLegend · 03-18-2010, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL

My apologies. You capitalizing his name made it seem like you put great importance to the point, so I responded to it. So it is ok for you to answer only certain points in other people's posts, but it’s not for others to do the same thing to you? Amazing! Case in point you ignoring my point about Brunell’s failure to hold the starting jobs in Jacksonville and Washington and for three years being unable to find a team that wants him as the starter. Instead you just keep going back to that one Carolina game and making excuses as to why he did poorly as if that is the only evidence that his game is not what it used to be. It isn't worth your time because you've got nothing except (way) past accomplishments to go with. He has not been a successful starting NFL QB for at least 4 years now.

lol hes been a backup for the past 3 seasons.....and the one season before that may in fact be the reason that he was a backup to begin with.

jason campbell was a first round pick in 2005 so you can see why the city may have been calling for campbell to start anyway

IMO the reason brunell didnt start on those teams(even tho he did) is because when teams are losin or winning, the responsibility is always on the QB....even if its not his fault

brunell got the axe because, according the mass fans, it was his fault and campbell and leftwich were just coming into the league as high prospects. leftwich took over for brunell after he was injured and didnt relinquish the position because he was a high draft pick and because he performed admirably

SAINT_MICHAEL · 03-18-2010, 04:05 PM

That makes sense and could be part of the reason. But the fact that it happened more than once, coupled with what we have seen from his admittingly short performances in pre and regular season certainly is enough to create doubt about him. If you can't understand that and see why some doubt that he has anything "left in the tank" and would rather see us try something else then I don't know what to say. Agree or not, you should be able to see the point of view.

saintfan · 03-18-2010, 06:23 PM

Damnit where's MY award? I'm active...kinda...I like to argue at least, which should count for SOMEthing around here, especially in the off season.

CantonLegend · 03-18-2010, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Damnit where's MY award? I'm active...kinda...I like to argue at least, which should count for SOMEthing around here, especially in the off season.

here you can have this one out of my collection.....i dont need it anymore

you're welcome

saintfan · 03-18-2010, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

here you can have this one out of my collection.....i dont need it anymore

you're welcome

Guess that'll hafta do.

Cruize · 03-18-2010, 06:58 PM

The position needs to be upgraded. Brunell has been a great pro. He's a classy guy. But, age and inactivity are not on his side. The Panthers game was on the road, meaningless, and was played with the backups. But any way you want to frame it, Brunell looked like an old, lacking in skills QB. To completely ignore that is not smart. And I don't think the Saints have ignored it. There's just only so much you can do. More importantly, we all hope the backup never sees the field.

saintfan · 03-18-2010, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

The position needs to be upgraded. Brunell has been a great pro. He's a classy guy. But, age and inactivity are not on his side. The Panthers game was on the road, meaningless, and was played with the backups. But any way you want to frame it, Brunell looked like an old, lacking in skills QB. To completely ignore that is not smart. And I don't think the Saints have ignored it. There's just only so much you can do. More importantly, we all hope the backup never sees the field.

I'll agree that Brunell is too old when I see him play behind the starters. I'm not saying he could come in and win 7 or 8 in a row, and we all know none of us want that to happen, but when I've seen him play he's typically running for his life behind a backup oline and with second or third string players running crappy routes.

If we're gonna upgrade, then who are we gonna upgrade to? I think we have bigger needs.

SAINT_MICHAEL · 03-18-2010, 07:15 PM

Why do people want to forget how his teams were doing during his end time in Jacksonville and his stint in Washington? The opinion that he doesn't have much left was not formed by his one game against the Panthers. Apparently it is a fairly common belief in the NFL as well. Many teams have hunted for starting QBs over the last 5 years and not many have wanted to give Brunell a shot. I tend to think there is a reason for that. The teams that did didn't do it for long. It doesn't seem like a need until something bad happens.

03-18-2010, 03:01 PM	#1
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL Oh Ok. Because Dinkins was in the game Brunell had a poor performance. Who really has their eyes closed? thats what you got out of my post? ....amazing stuff like this makes me wonder if its worth my time

03-18-2010, 03:41 PM	#2
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Re: Back-up QB options? My apologies. You capitalizing his name made it seem like you put great importance to the point, so I responded to it. So it is ok for you to answer only certain points in other people's posts, but it’s not for others to do the same thing to you? Amazing! Case in point you ignoring my point about Brunell’s failure to hold the starting jobs in Jacksonville and Washington and for three years being unable to find a team that wants him as the starter. Instead you just keep going back to that one Carolina game and making excuses as to why he did poorly as if that is the only evidence that his game is not what it used to be. It isn't worth your time because you've got nothing except (way) past accomplishments to go with. He has not been a successful starting NFL QB for at least 4 years now.
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446

03-18-2010, 03:51 PM	#3
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL My apologies. You capitalizing his name made it seem like you put great importance to the point, so I responded to it. So it is ok for you to answer only certain points in other people's posts, but it’s not for others to do the same thing to you? Amazing! Case in point you ignoring my point about Brunell’s failure to hold the starting jobs in Jacksonville and Washington and for three years being unable to find a team that wants him as the starter. Instead you just keep going back to that one Carolina game and making excuses as to why he did poorly as if that is the only evidence that his game is not what it used to be. It isn't worth your time because you've got nothing except (way) past accomplishments to go with. He has not been a successful starting NFL QB for at least 4 years now. lol hes been a backup for the past 3 seasons.....and the one season before that may in fact be the reason that he was a backup to begin with. jason campbell was a first round pick in 2005 so you can see why the city may have been calling for campbell to start anyway IMO the reason brunell didnt start on those teams(even tho he did) is because when teams are losin or winning, the responsibility is always on the QB....even if its not his fault brunell got the axe because, according the mass fans, it was his fault and campbell and leftwich were just coming into the league as high prospects. leftwich took over for brunell after he was injured and didnt relinquish the position because he was a high draft pick and because he performed admirably
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03-18-2010, 04:05 PM	#4
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Re: Back-up QB options? That makes sense and could be part of the reason. But the fact that it happened more than once, coupled with what we have seen from his admittingly short performances in pre and regular season certainly is enough to create doubt about him. If you can't understand that and see why some doubt that he has anything "left in the tank" and would rather see us try something else then I don't know what to say. Agree or not, you should be able to see the point of view.
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03-18-2010, 06:23 PM	#5
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Back-up QB options? Damnit where's MY award? I'm active...kinda...I like to argue at least, which should count for SOMEthing around here, especially in the off season.

03-18-2010, 06:28 PM	#6
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by saintfan Damnit where's MY award? I'm active...kinda...I like to argue at least, which should count for SOMEthing around here, especially in the off season. here you can have this one out of my collection.....i dont need it anymore you're welcome

03-18-2010, 06:39 PM	#7
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by CantonLegend here you can have this one out of my collection.....i dont need it anymore you're welcome Guess that'll hafta do.

03-18-2010, 06:58 PM	#8
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Back-up QB options? The position needs to be upgraded. Brunell has been a great pro. He's a classy guy. But, age and inactivity are not on his side. The Panthers game was on the road, meaningless, and was played with the backups. But any way you want to frame it, Brunell looked like an old, lacking in skills QB. To completely ignore that is not smart. And I don't think the Saints have ignored it. There's just only so much you can do. More importantly, we all hope the backup never sees the field.
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03-18-2010, 07:02 PM	#9
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by Cruize The position needs to be upgraded. Brunell has been a great pro. He's a classy guy. But, age and inactivity are not on his side. The Panthers game was on the road, meaningless, and was played with the backups. But any way you want to frame it, Brunell looked like an old, lacking in skills QB. To completely ignore that is not smart. And I don't think the Saints have ignored it. There's just only so much you can do. More importantly, we all hope the backup never sees the field. I'll agree that Brunell is too old when I see him play behind the starters. I'm not saying he could come in and win 7 or 8 in a row, and we all know none of us want that to happen, but when I've seen him play he's typically running for his life behind a backup oline and with second or third string players running crappy routes. If we're gonna upgrade, then who are we gonna upgrade to? I think we have bigger needs.

03-18-2010, 07:15 PM	#10
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Re: Back-up QB options? Why do people want to forget how his teams were doing during his end time in Jacksonville and his stint in Washington? The opinion that he doesn't have much left was not formed by his one game against the Panthers. Apparently it is a fairly common belief in the NFL as well. Many teams have hunted for starting QBs over the last 5 years and not many have wanted to give Brunell a shot. I tend to think there is a reason for that. The teams that did didn't do it for long. It doesn't seem like a need until something bad happens.
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446