Back-up QB options?

D_it_up · 03-18-2010, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

now that we are even we need a tie breaker im all for coming up with ridiculous arguments if you guys can use them

That's pretty much what you've been coming up with so far and not being able to back them up, so be my guest.

CantonLegend · 03-18-2010, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL

Oh Ok. Because Dinkins was in the game Brunell had a poor performance. Who really has their eyes closed?

thats what you got out of my post? ....amazing

stuff like this makes me wonder if its worth my time

CantonLegend · 03-18-2010, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by D_it_up

That's pretty much what you've been coming up with so far and not being able to back them up, so be my guest.

what havent i backed up.....im more than willing to try and elaborate

but so far nobody has really answered my question as to why brunell has nothing left in the tank

the only answer ive heard is because he stunk in the carolina game....i feel like arguing that game is like talking to a wall since for some reason my point has gone over everyone's head

D_it_up · 03-18-2010, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

what havent i backed up.....im more than willing to try and elaborate

but so far nobody has really answered my question as to why brunell has nothing left in the tank

You haven't backed up a reason why he still has something left in the tank....other than posting a resume' that pretty much ended four years ago. Oh yeah...and two plays.

CantonLegend · 03-18-2010, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by D_it_up

You haven't backed up a reason why he still has something left in the tank....other than posting a resume' that pretty much ended four years ago. Oh yeah...and two plays.

i dont care if he isnt an all pro

i was merely trying to point out that he isnt washed up and that basing an opinion on 1 game is kind of dumb

he is a backup....thats what hes supposed to be

but rather than answer the original question, you guys turned it around on me to make me prove that he is a stud....im not saying he is

but i am wondering why, AFTER 1 GAME, you guys have decided he is washed up

im glad we didnt do the same thing after drew's first game as a saint

when he threw for 170 yards on 16 of 30 attempts for a QB rating of 67.....AGAINST THE BROWNS

looks like maybe we shouldnt judge QBs after one game eh?

SAINT_MICHAEL · 03-18-2010, 03:41 PM

My apologies. You capitalizing his name made it seem like you put great importance to the point, so I responded to it. So it is ok for you to answer only certain points in other people's posts, but it’s not for others to do the same thing to you? Amazing! Case in point you ignoring my point about Brunell’s failure to hold the starting jobs in Jacksonville and Washington and for three years being unable to find a team that wants him as the starter. Instead you just keep going back to that one Carolina game and making excuses as to why he did poorly as if that is the only evidence that his game is not what it used to be. It isn't worth your time because you've got nothing except (way) past accomplishments to go with. He has not been a successful starting NFL QB for at least 4 years now.

CantonLegend · 03-18-2010, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL

My apologies. You capitalizing his name made it seem like you put great importance to the point, so I responded to it. So it is ok for you to answer only certain points in other people's posts, but it’s not for others to do the same thing to you? Amazing! Case in point you ignoring my point about Brunell’s failure to hold the starting jobs in Jacksonville and Washington and for three years being unable to find a team that wants him as the starter. Instead you just keep going back to that one Carolina game and making excuses as to why he did poorly as if that is the only evidence that his game is not what it used to be. It isn't worth your time because you've got nothing except (way) past accomplishments to go with. He has not been a successful starting NFL QB for at least 4 years now.

lol hes been a backup for the past 3 seasons.....and the one season before that may in fact be the reason that he was a backup to begin with.

jason campbell was a first round pick in 2005 so you can see why the city may have been calling for campbell to start anyway

IMO the reason brunell didnt start on those teams(even tho he did) is because when teams are losin or winning, the responsibility is always on the QB....even if its not his fault

brunell got the axe because, according the mass fans, it was his fault and campbell and leftwich were just coming into the league as high prospects. leftwich took over for brunell after he was injured and didnt relinquish the position because he was a high draft pick and because he performed admirably

SAINT_MICHAEL · 03-18-2010, 04:05 PM

That makes sense and could be part of the reason. But the fact that it happened more than once, coupled with what we have seen from his admittingly short performances in pre and regular season certainly is enough to create doubt about him. If you can't understand that and see why some doubt that he has anything "left in the tank" and would rather see us try something else then I don't know what to say. Agree or not, you should be able to see the point of view.

saintfan · 03-18-2010, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

i know nobody here has ever jumped the gun on somebody

Heavens to Betsy NO. Not here...unless we're talking about Delhomme, who was anointed A HOF Bust simply by signing his contract. LMFAO

D_it_up · 03-18-2010, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

i dont care if he isnt an all pro

i was merely trying to point out that he isnt washed up and that basing an opinion on 1 game is kind of dumb

he is a backup....thats what hes supposed to be

but rather than answer the original question, you guys turned it around on me to make me prove that he is a stud....im not saying he is

but i am wondering why, AFTER 1 GAME, you guys have decided he is washed up

im glad we didnt do the same thing after drew's first game as a saint

when he threw for 170 yards on 16 of 30 attempts for a QB rating of 67.....AGAINST THE BROWNS

looks like maybe we shouldnt judge QBs after one game eh?

Must I explain one more time how crappy and sluggish the Carolina defense played in that game? I don't care if they were top 5 in defense or not. Their play didn't show it. Brunell couldn't complete anything downfield even when receivers were open and he was playing with players that he practiced with regularly, so there should have been some sort of rhythm, but there wasn't. Sure, he may have been accurate in the past, but he showed no signs of it in that game. You say arguing after one game is dumb and then try to bring Drew's name in this? Now who is the one with the dumb comment? Drew is a starter and we knew that he was better than that game and that he would improve. No one here can say with any certainty that Brunell has still got it or if he doesn't. We have our opinions, and we voice them. In my opinion, if Brees were to miss four games in a regular season, the Saints would be lucky to win one game. If they did win more than that, it wouldn't be because of the arm of Mark Brunell.

03-18-2010, 02:55 PM	#61
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by CantonLegend now that we are even we need a tie breaker im all for coming up with ridiculous arguments if you guys can use them That's pretty much what you've been coming up with so far and not being able to back them up, so be my guest.

03-18-2010, 03:01 PM	#62
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL Oh Ok. Because Dinkins was in the game Brunell had a poor performance. Who really has their eyes closed? thats what you got out of my post? ....amazing stuff like this makes me wonder if its worth my time

03-18-2010, 03:07 PM	#63
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by D_it_up That's pretty much what you've been coming up with so far and not being able to back them up, so be my guest. what havent i backed up.....im more than willing to try and elaborate but so far nobody has really answered my question as to why brunell has nothing left in the tank the only answer ive heard is because he stunk in the carolina game....i feel like arguing that game is like talking to a wall since for some reason my point has gone over everyone's head

03-18-2010, 03:26 PM	#64
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by CantonLegend what havent i backed up.....im more than willing to try and elaborate but so far nobody has really answered my question as to why brunell has nothing left in the tank You haven't backed up a reason why he still has something left in the tank....other than posting a resume' that pretty much ended four years ago. Oh yeah...and two plays.

03-18-2010, 03:31 PM	#65
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by D_it_up You haven't backed up a reason why he still has something left in the tank....other than posting a resume' that pretty much ended four years ago. Oh yeah...and two plays. i dont care if he isnt an all pro i was merely trying to point out that he isnt washed up and that basing an opinion on 1 game is kind of dumb he is a backup....thats what hes supposed to be but rather than answer the original question, you guys turned it around on me to make me prove that he is a stud....im not saying he is but i am wondering why, AFTER 1 GAME, you guys have decided he is washed up im glad we didnt do the same thing after drew's first game as a saint when he threw for 170 yards on 16 of 30 attempts for a QB rating of 67.....AGAINST THE BROWNS looks like maybe we shouldnt judge QBs after one game eh?
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03-18-2010, 03:41 PM	#66
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Re: Back-up QB options? My apologies. You capitalizing his name made it seem like you put great importance to the point, so I responded to it. So it is ok for you to answer only certain points in other people's posts, but it’s not for others to do the same thing to you? Amazing! Case in point you ignoring my point about Brunell’s failure to hold the starting jobs in Jacksonville and Washington and for three years being unable to find a team that wants him as the starter. Instead you just keep going back to that one Carolina game and making excuses as to why he did poorly as if that is the only evidence that his game is not what it used to be. It isn't worth your time because you've got nothing except (way) past accomplishments to go with. He has not been a successful starting NFL QB for at least 4 years now.
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03-18-2010, 03:51 PM	#67
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL My apologies. You capitalizing his name made it seem like you put great importance to the point, so I responded to it. So it is ok for you to answer only certain points in other people's posts, but it’s not for others to do the same thing to you? Amazing! Case in point you ignoring my point about Brunell’s failure to hold the starting jobs in Jacksonville and Washington and for three years being unable to find a team that wants him as the starter. Instead you just keep going back to that one Carolina game and making excuses as to why he did poorly as if that is the only evidence that his game is not what it used to be. It isn't worth your time because you've got nothing except (way) past accomplishments to go with. He has not been a successful starting NFL QB for at least 4 years now. lol hes been a backup for the past 3 seasons.....and the one season before that may in fact be the reason that he was a backup to begin with. jason campbell was a first round pick in 2005 so you can see why the city may have been calling for campbell to start anyway IMO the reason brunell didnt start on those teams(even tho he did) is because when teams are losin or winning, the responsibility is always on the QB....even if its not his fault brunell got the axe because, according the mass fans, it was his fault and campbell and leftwich were just coming into the league as high prospects. leftwich took over for brunell after he was injured and didnt relinquish the position because he was a high draft pick and because he performed admirably
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03-18-2010, 04:05 PM	#68
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Re: Back-up QB options? That makes sense and could be part of the reason. But the fact that it happened more than once, coupled with what we have seen from his admittingly short performances in pre and regular season certainly is enough to create doubt about him. If you can't understand that and see why some doubt that he has anything "left in the tank" and would rather see us try something else then I don't know what to say. Agree or not, you should be able to see the point of view.
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03-18-2010, 04:34 PM	#69
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by CantonLegend i know nobody here has ever jumped the gun on somebody Heavens to Betsy NO. Not here...unless we're talking about Delhomme, who was anointed A HOF Bust simply by signing his contract. LMFAO

03-18-2010, 04:37 PM	#70
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Back-up QB options? Originally Posted by CantonLegend i dont care if he isnt an all pro i was merely trying to point out that he isnt washed up and that basing an opinion on 1 game is kind of dumb he is a backup....thats what hes supposed to be but rather than answer the original question, you guys turned it around on me to make me prove that he is a stud....im not saying he is but i am wondering why, AFTER 1 GAME, you guys have decided he is washed up im glad we didnt do the same thing after drew's first game as a saint when he threw for 170 yards on 16 of 30 attempts for a QB rating of 67.....AGAINST THE BROWNS looks like maybe we shouldnt judge QBs after one game eh? Must I explain one more time how crappy and sluggish the Carolina defense played in that game? I don't care if they were top 5 in defense or not. Their play didn't show it. Brunell couldn't complete anything downfield even when receivers were open and he was playing with players that he practiced with regularly, so there should have been some sort of rhythm, but there wasn't. Sure, he may have been accurate in the past, but he showed no signs of it in that game. You say arguing after one game is dumb and then try to bring Drew's name in this? Now who is the one with the dumb comment? Drew is a starter and we knew that he was better than that game and that he would improve. No one here can say with any certainty that Brunell has still got it or if he doesn't. We have our opinions, and we voice them. In my opinion, if Brees were to miss four games in a regular season, the Saints would be lucky to win one game. If they did win more than that, it wouldn't be because of the arm of Mark Brunell.