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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by HintOfLogic Is it possible that Sharper brought a swagger and confidence to the D the was equally if not more important than just William's attitude? . I stopped reading after that statement. You just don't know what ...

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Old 04-07-2010, 07:49 AM   #31
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Re: Darren Sharper says that a possible return

Originally Posted by HintOfLogic View Post
Is it possible that Sharper brought a swagger and confidence to the D the was equally if not more important than just William's attitude?

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I stopped reading after that statement. You just don't know what you are talking about.
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Old 04-07-2010, 08:43 AM   #32
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Originally Posted by HintOfLogic View Post
This is mostly due in part to the fact that asides from an occassional blitz, the Saints have about the worst pass rush production from the front 4 in the NFL.
ahhhhhhh...hmmm not sure i agree
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Old 04-07-2010, 08:51 AM   #33
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It's an uncapped year. Benson can afford to overpay everyone on the roster. Sharper is as if not more important to the defense as Bush is to the offense. Give him a great one year deal. Draft the best DE, DT, and OLB available in the first three rounds and go back to the Super Bowl. PRICELESS!
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Old 04-07-2010, 08:52 AM   #34
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The bottom line is, the majority of Saints fans have a complex about Bush and ignorantly defend him (for example, offering no logic, just attacking the critic), as if their personal pride rides with Bush.
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how do you define "majority"? and how do you have the insight to know what the "majority" of saints fans think?..do you mean the majority of your circle of friends?..i must know how you know this cause i want to be "in the know"
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Old 04-07-2010, 09:00 AM   #35
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Originally Posted by HintOfLogic View Post
.... thread evolves around not being able to afford Sharper.

.... Saints have a novelty back, Bush, set to be the highest paid RB in the NFL, which coincidentally might cause the Saints to loose more pro bowl players.

I think Sharper is more important than Bush.... what gives?
a novelty back?...hmmm perhaps you would rather have A.P.? how many fumbles did AP have in the nfc title game?...just a thought

you are certainly entitled to your opinion as we all are but just because you believe something doesnt make it true in the minds of all saints fans

by the way..welcome to the site..(i see you joined recently)

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Old 04-07-2010, 09:12 AM   #36
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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper View Post
I stopped reading after that statement. You just don't know what you are talking about.

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Old 04-07-2010, 09:20 AM   #37
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I think we need Bush as well Sharper...wait did i already say that?...they both are important to our success...I admit i can be real critical of Reggie ..especially after a muffed punt or when he runs out of bounds to avoid contact, but he showed me he can run with authority...so im not giving up on him...As for Sharper..i know he is getting up there in age and tailed off some towards the end of the year...but he was hurt ..Remember the beginning of the season how effective he was..damn folks if you have NFL network im sure you saw how he was being considered defensive player of the year..I think Loomis is hoping he will come back for the right price and if not Jenkins and Young can step up...maybe they can ..but if were really going to make another run and damn well better since Drew is in his prime..we need Sharper back there...go back and look at all the key plays he made for us and you will see what i mean...Im hoping a deal gets done and we keep him in the worst way....ok im done till he signs....lol
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Old 04-07-2010, 12:23 PM   #38
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Originally Posted by HintOfLogic View Post
Villan, I love ya' and all..... but this is the most thoughtless, recycled Bush apologists beacon statement ever. What running back doesn't require a player committed to him... seriously? I don't think you've ever stopped and thought about this statement. Are you saying that Bush get's more people committed to him coming out of the backfield than Pierre or others? Every time I hear that statement, I get stupider and stupider.... literally, it hurts my brain.

YES, Bush draws coverage, BTW, so does any other running back out of the backfield.... the only difference is, Bush is easier to tackle once he's called on. Also, I find it fascinating that the term and relevance of the term "Decoy" in respects to an NFL Football player was coined for Bush and only after Bush continued to hender to progress as an NFL running back.
Sounds like u gotta hard on for reggie.

Damn youngman do you really want me break it down Grab a Snickers its gonna be a while . Yes as broad as my statement was its actually more complex then that. Any body coming out of the back field will require attention YES. But with the skill players we have on offense when reggie comes out now there is a very good chance teams will have to assign a man to cover him ( man on man) creating a mismatch( Colston needs dbl coverage keep this in mind) with the skill players we have playing zone coverage just won't do its suicidal. Defenses typically assign their best cover LB to dynamic TE's ( ie Shockey) now in a 3 Wide set now the safety has to come and play man up on a WR leaving man up for the corner on that side, also leaving his area open for say a drag by the TE now since Reggie is in the game send him out wide or even in the flats now the other LB(OLB) has to account for him, SPREADING the defense out and creating SPACE for Combination Routes like the ones where David Thomas and Shockey seem to be wide open for 20yrd + pass plays. Plain and simple Reggie Creates Match up problems and him being on the field causes defense to adjust their coverage. adjusting coverages sometimes causes teams to use Time Outs, Be out of position and give up big plays or even open up space for other routes. understand? Dont look at stats look at the entire picture. 3WR set (Colston single wr ) put Devery and Meachem on the same side Have 1 run a post and the other run a fly, typically the corner will take the outside man a LB will bump to cover the slot until he is in the FS' area now FS has to cover the Post, with reggie comming outta back field the LB cant bump and cover as it will leave reggie open in space so he has to check reggie, FS has to come down and run with the post leaving man on man with 1 of the fastest Wr's in the game. Are you telling me you dont like those odds with Drew Brees throwin the ball? Thats SREADING out a defense thus even if the ball doesnt go reggies way he was just as important to that play as was the slot wr. to put it simply he eliminates 1 player from coverage creating better match ups. consider who the coach is and what they do.

See the drawing Below
Notice the TE (Y) route leads to open space

Originally Posted by HintOfLogic View Post
I agree about Greer and Porter, absolutely love them. But to me, it was Sharper making the most picks and his slow a$$ was returning them for 6. .
Look At Shaper when Porter and Greer play and look at him when they dont play. Sharper recorded the ints' but he didnt create them all by him self. Outstanding coverage by 22 and 32 allows Sharper to Roam and Romp like he did last year and just play center field. When they didnt play he wasn't running around like he could have because the coverage wasnt as good as when porter and greer were in the game. His instincts allowed him to make plays on the ball but he doesnt run as well as he used to and without porter and greer I say he doesnt have half them pick. Point blank....

proof read your statements and you'll be ok, i do agree its not english class but your stentence structure is backwards sometimes and in fragments, cant accuratley get your point accross if the reader has to say" What??" I dont type in perfect english either just some FYI.

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Old 04-07-2010, 12:37 PM   #39
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Re: Darren Sharper says that a possible return

What the hell happened to this thread? It is incomprehensible now. Is the offseason a time when forum participants become logically impaired and promoting an impression that English is not the first language?

Dial back the chest pumping and gorilla charging. Dial up a demonstration of a command of communication.

Very disappointed in you all.
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Old 04-07-2010, 12:40 PM   #40
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not so much gorilla tactics more of explaining a broad statement
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