Darren Sharper says that a possible return

SaintPauly · 04-07-2010, 08:52 PM

Ok, I have two things to add to this thread. Number one, reporters ask Sharper questions, and he answers them. I like honest, and straigh forward people. Not these kiss butt, politically correct, "I must answer in a way that people will like" players. He was asked a question, he answered it honestly, and now he's the bad guy? Would you rather he lie?

Number two, and I have said this over, and over, and over, and over again, to no avail, and to NO response, from the people who talk about Sharper's "tailing off", at the end of the season. He hurt his knee in like week 10 folks. Around the same time as Porter, and Greer's injuries. Thus slower, and less effective play was to be expected. And here's a question: Instead of saying that his play was complimented by the skills of Porter, and Greer, isn't it possible, that their great play, might have been a result of Sharper? QB's are scared to throw at him, and for good reason. "No one else wanted him, and we signed him last year, and he should be greatfull, blah, blah, blah, blah...." Sounds to me like Sharper isn't the only one whining around here.....

strato · 04-07-2010, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

Ok, I have two things to add to this thread. Number one, reporters ask Sharper questions, and he answers them. I like honest, and straigh forward people. Not these kiss butt, politically correct, "I must answer in a way that people will like" players. He was asked a question, he answered it honestly, and now he's the bad guy? Would you rather he lie?

Number two, and I have said this over, and over, and over, and over again, to no avail, and to NO response, from the people who talk about Sharper's "tailing off", at the end of the season. He hurt his knee in like week 10 folks. Around the same time as Porter, and Greer's injuries. Thus slower, and less effective play was to be expected. And here's a question: Instead of saying that his play was complimented by the skills of Porter, and Greer, isn't it possible, that their great play, might have been a result of Sharper? QB's are scared to throw at him, and for good reason. "No one else wanted him, and we signed him last year, and he should be greatfull, blah, blah, blah, blah...." Sounds to me like Sharper isn't the only one whining around here.....

Your preaching to the choir here ...i been saying this as well....

HintOfLogic · 04-07-2010, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

Ok, I have two things to add to this thread. Number one, reporters ask Sharper questions, and he answers them. I like honest, and straigh forward people. Not these kiss butt, politically correct, "I must answer in a way that people will like" players. He was asked a question, he answered it honestly, and now he's the bad guy? Would you rather he lie?

Number two, and I have said this over, and over, and over, and over again, to no avail, and to NO response, from the people who talk about Sharper's "tailing off", at the end of the season. He hurt his knee in like week 10 folks. Around the same time as Porter, and Greer's injuries. Thus slower, and less effective play was to be expected. And here's a question: Instead of saying that his play was complimented by the skills of Porter, and Greer, isn't it possible, that their great play, might have been a result of Sharper? QB's are scared to throw at him, and for good reason. "No one else wanted him, and we signed him last year, and he should be greatfull, blah, blah, blah, blah...." Sounds to me like Sharper isn't the only one whining around here.....

I'm not "assuring it", but I can't help but think that the int. pass by Porter by P. Manning, may have just as well been influenced by Sharper. Sharper was quiet the whole SuperBowl. This isn't because of his inferior play, but more so because Peyton is is a smart QB and I guarantee that he made it a priority to know where #42 was at all times. I think they were forced to play a little more conservative. Someone like Sharper constipates a QB's thought process.

I give Porter all the credit in the world for reacting to what he saw as he was obviously prepared and everything, but I think Sharper, just by presence forced a more "underneath" passing game than the Colts would have otherwise worked with.

Trust me, Peyton knew where Sharper was at all times. This is also why Sharper didn't see much action.... he was busy shutting down his zones.

And by god, I can't believe people are saying "He was lucky to be on the Saints", and not the other way around... this is absolutely insanity.

Tobias-Reiper · 04-08-2010, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by HintOfLogic

I'm not "assuring it", but I can't help but think that the int. pass by Porter by P. Manning, may have just as well been influenced by Sharper. Sharper was quiet the whole SuperBowl. This isn't because of his inferior play, but more so because Peyton is is a smart QB and I guarantee that he made it a priority to know where #42 was at all times. I think they were forced to play a little more conservative. Someone like Sharper constipates a QB's thought process.

I give Porter all the credit in the world for reacting to what he saw as he was obviously prepared and everything, but I think Sharper, just by presence forced a more "underneath" passing game than the Colts would have otherwise worked with.

Trust me, Peyton knew where Sharper was at all times. This is also why Sharper didn't see much action.... he was busy shutting down his zones.

And by god, I can't believe people are saying "He was lucky to be on the Saints", and not the other way around... this is absolutely insanity.

You just keep digging yourself into a hole. Stop!

The play in which Porter intercepted Manning had NOTHING to do with Sharper. That 5-yard hitch pass is Manning's bread and butter, and don't take my word for it, take Manning's word when he said "it's our bread and butter play" after the SB. They run that play a lot. It has nothing to do with being somehow afraid the safety is going to make a play. It is just a high-percentage play they run a lot on 3rd down. If you want to give credit for an assist, give it to Will Smith and Scott Fujita who both turned to Porter prior to the snap and told him to watch for that play. The closest player was Jenkins, not Sharper. Sharper was a good 7 yards from the play, which in NFL terms is pretty much out of the play.
Here, look at it:

YouTube- SuperBowl 44 - Tracy Porter Interception
And, yes, Sharper was VERY lucky to land on a Gregg Williams defense, and to play alongside Tracy Porter and Jabari Greer (and speaking of Greer, talk about Manning being aware of a player) which allowed him to freelance and made the plays he made.

So, again, just stop. There was a dear ol' man who used to post here who had a great sig line. Learn it. Live it.

VillainAgain · 04-08-2010, 09:28 AM

Tobias +22 rep,
Logic i demand you change your name on the grounds that your posts Do Not contain logic. You are a Saints fan and I'm glad your smart enough to be apart of the Nation, but your opinions are unfounded, anything that i may say is backed up by facts, You dig yourself a hole by saying such things as, "I give Porter all the credit in the world for reacting to what he saw as he was obviously prepared and everything, but I think Sharper, just by presence forced a more "underneath" passing game than the Colts would have otherwise worked with"

2 things. 1 Peyton Manning and Drew Brees are liken to each other because regardless of personel and coverage they do what they want when they want. and 2 you give off the impression of a sports center fan, Im not questioning your fan-dom more on knowledge of the game.

As a saints fan there should be no doubt in your mind about that of all plays! 22 backpedaled saw reggie wayne breaking down for the hitch and he jumped it and the rest is history. Yes Sharp was on the field and his where-abouts are important, but Peyton Manning constantly audibles to get his team in the correct play so weather Sharp was on the field or not was a none factor for that play. They were gonna run that play regardless its a money play they run alot Reggie Wayne cut that route short as a matter of fact had he kept running porter would have been there to break up the pass. look at the film and u can clearly see that. Its a perfect example of why you should finish your route and always come back to the ball.

I tend to over analyze everything and as a football fan in general I try to stay on point if i'm ever off my rocker let me know =]. 98.5% of anything i say in regards to a player is correct the other 1.5% maybe typos or misspellings. It may sound like I'm riffing at you but you tried to violate a few pages ago an tried to go in on me. I welcome all contradictory opinions but they must be factual. WHO DAT

04-07-2010, 08:52 PM	#1
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Darren Sharper says that a possible return Ok, I have two things to add to this thread. Number one, reporters ask Sharper questions, and he answers them. I like honest, and straigh forward people. Not these kiss butt, politically correct, "I must answer in a way that people will like" players. He was asked a question, he answered it honestly, and now he's the bad guy? Would you rather he lie? Number two, and I have said this over, and over, and over, and over again, to no avail, and to NO response, from the people who talk about Sharper's "tailing off", at the end of the season. He hurt his knee in like week 10 folks. Around the same time as Porter, and Greer's injuries. Thus slower, and less effective play was to be expected. And here's a question: Instead of saying that his play was complimented by the skills of Porter, and Greer, isn't it possible, that their great play, might have been a result of Sharper? QB's are scared to throw at him, and for good reason. "No one else wanted him, and we signed him last year, and he should be greatfull, blah, blah, blah, blah...." Sounds to me like Sharper isn't the only one whining around here.....
	What's popular is not always right, and what's right is not always popular.....

04-07-2010, 09:01 PM	#2
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Darren Sharper says that a possible return Originally Posted by saintpaul25 Ok, I have two things to add to this thread. Number one, reporters ask Sharper questions, and he answers them. I like honest, and straigh forward people. Not these kiss butt, politically correct, "I must answer in a way that people will like" players. He was asked a question, he answered it honestly, and now he's the bad guy? Would you rather he lie? Number two, and I have said this over, and over, and over, and over again, to no avail, and to NO response, from the people who talk about Sharper's "tailing off", at the end of the season. He hurt his knee in like week 10 folks. Around the same time as Porter, and Greer's injuries. Thus slower, and less effective play was to be expected. And here's a question: Instead of saying that his play was complimented by the skills of Porter, and Greer, isn't it possible, that their great play, might have been a result of Sharper? QB's are scared to throw at him, and for good reason. "No one else wanted him, and we signed him last year, and he should be greatfull, blah, blah, blah, blah...." Sounds to me like Sharper isn't the only one whining around here..... Your preaching to the choir here ...i been saying this as well....

04-07-2010, 11:42 PM	#3
HintOfLogic 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 194	Re: Darren Sharper says that a possible return Originally Posted by saintpaul25 Ok, I have two things to add to this thread. Number one, reporters ask Sharper questions, and he answers them. I like honest, and straigh forward people. Not these kiss butt, politically correct, "I must answer in a way that people will like" players. He was asked a question, he answered it honestly, and now he's the bad guy? Would you rather he lie? Number two, and I have said this over, and over, and over, and over again, to no avail, and to NO response, from the people who talk about Sharper's "tailing off", at the end of the season. He hurt his knee in like week 10 folks. Around the same time as Porter, and Greer's injuries. Thus slower, and less effective play was to be expected. And here's a question: Instead of saying that his play was complimented by the skills of Porter, and Greer, isn't it possible, that their great play, might have been a result of Sharper? QB's are scared to throw at him, and for good reason. "No one else wanted him, and we signed him last year, and he should be greatfull, blah, blah, blah, blah...." Sounds to me like Sharper isn't the only one whining around here..... I'm not "assuring it", but I can't help but think that the int. pass by Porter by P. Manning, may have just as well been influenced by Sharper. Sharper was quiet the whole SuperBowl. This isn't because of his inferior play, but more so because Peyton is is a smart QB and I guarantee that he made it a priority to know where #42 was at all times. I think they were forced to play a little more conservative. Someone like Sharper constipates a QB's thought process. I give Porter all the credit in the world for reacting to what he saw as he was obviously prepared and everything, but I think Sharper, just by presence forced a more "underneath" passing game than the Colts would have otherwise worked with. Trust me, Peyton knew where Sharper was at all times. This is also why Sharper didn't see much action.... he was busy shutting down his zones. And by god, I can't believe people are saying "He was lucky to be on the Saints", and not the other way around... this is absolutely insanity.
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04-08-2010, 08:54 AM	#4
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Darren Sharper says that a possible return Originally Posted by HintOfLogic I'm not "assuring it", but I can't help but think that the int. pass by Porter by P. Manning, may have just as well been influenced by Sharper. Sharper was quiet the whole SuperBowl. This isn't because of his inferior play, but more so because Peyton is is a smart QB and I guarantee that he made it a priority to know where #42 was at all times. I think they were forced to play a little more conservative. Someone like Sharper constipates a QB's thought process. I give Porter all the credit in the world for reacting to what he saw as he was obviously prepared and everything, but I think Sharper, just by presence forced a more "underneath" passing game than the Colts would have otherwise worked with. Trust me, Peyton knew where Sharper was at all times. This is also why Sharper didn't see much action.... he was busy shutting down his zones. And by god, I can't believe people are saying "He was lucky to be on the Saints", and not the other way around... this is absolutely insanity. You just keep digging yourself into a hole. Stop! The play in which Porter intercepted Manning had NOTHING to do with Sharper. That 5-yard hitch pass is Manning's bread and butter, and don't take my word for it, take Manning's word when he said "it's our bread and butter play" after the SB. They run that play a lot. It has nothing to do with being somehow afraid the safety is going to make a play. It is just a high-percentage play they run a lot on 3rd down. If you want to give credit for an assist, give it to Will Smith and Scott Fujita who both turned to Porter prior to the snap and told him to watch for that play. The closest player was Jenkins, not Sharper. Sharper was a good 7 yards from the play, which in NFL terms is pretty much out of the play. Here, look at it: YouTube- SuperBowl 44 - Tracy Porter Interception And, yes, Sharper was VERY lucky to land on a Gregg Williams defense, and to play alongside Tracy Porter and Jabari Greer (and speaking of Greer, talk about Manning being aware of a player) which allowed him to freelance and made the plays he made. So, again, just stop. There was a dear ol' man who used to post here who had a great sig line. Learn it. Live it.
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04-08-2010, 09:28 AM	#5
VillainAgain 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 273	Re: Darren Sharper says that a possible return Tobias +22 rep, Logic i demand you change your name on the grounds that your posts Do Not contain logic. You are a Saints fan and I'm glad your smart enough to be apart of the Nation, but your opinions are unfounded, anything that i may say is backed up by facts, You dig yourself a hole by saying such things as, "I give Porter all the credit in the world for reacting to what he saw as he was obviously prepared and everything, but I think Sharper, just by presence forced a more "underneath" passing game than the Colts would have otherwise worked with" 2 things. 1 Peyton Manning and Drew Brees are liken to each other because regardless of personel and coverage they do what they want when they want. and 2 you give off the impression of a sports center fan, Im not questioning your fan-dom more on knowledge of the game. As a saints fan there should be no doubt in your mind about that of all plays! 22 backpedaled saw reggie wayne breaking down for the hitch and he jumped it and the rest is history. Yes Sharp was on the field and his where-abouts are important, but Peyton Manning constantly audibles to get his team in the correct play so weather Sharp was on the field or not was a none factor for that play. They were gonna run that play regardless its a money play they run alot Reggie Wayne cut that route short as a matter of fact had he kept running porter would have been there to break up the pass. look at the film and u can clearly see that. Its a perfect example of why you should finish your route and always come back to the ball. I tend to over analyze everything and as a football fan in general I try to stay on point if i'm ever off my rocker let me know =]. 98.5% of anything i say in regards to a player is correct the other 1.5% maybe typos or misspellings. It may sound like I'm riffing at you but you tried to violate a few pages ago an tried to go in on me. I welcome all contradictory opinions but they must be factual. WHO DAT
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