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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by st thomas i understand your concern poydras, but if we start throwing all the cash at every 30 something year old good player not great player we'll land up exactly like the oakland raiders. we be a ...

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Old 04-09-2010, 12:44 AM   #11
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Re: Possible Darren Sharper suitors

Originally Posted by st thomas View Post
i understand your concern poydras, but if we start throwing all the cash at every 30 something year old good player not great player we'll land up exactly like the oakland raiders. we be a disaranged organization that thinks if you put all superbowl players together that it would be a super bowl team. ha right
Come on St..Sharper is a future hall of famer ..that came close to getting defensive mvp honors...he played hurt people....were not the Raiders for wanting our probowl safety back..
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simple he wants more then fair market so until he becomes sober from all that partying he'll sign for a fair deal,again we are no longer the desperate saints anymore so he should be honored that we want him back
What is "Fair Market Value" for a future HOF'er coming off of his best and Super Bowl capped season?

Put yourself in the Saints position, you're about to pay a hit or miss, sparingly used "decoy" 8 million for one year. How do you gauge what Sharper is worth in comparison to what Reggie Bush is getting paid? How do you compare them in regards to how pivotal they are at their position? How do you gauge them on the importance of their role played during the last season? Lots of questions..... I'm curious, you seem to have this all figured out. Is Sharper coming back at about 1/4th of what Reggie's set to get paid worth it? Why does everyone get so conservative and concerned when talking about getting Sharper paid, but no harping on Bush's ridiculous payday? ... seriously?

did you actually say, "so he should be honored that we want him back"?

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Old 04-09-2010, 08:21 AM   #13
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He heeds to just get over the 200K or extra year they didn't offer him and sign. We were the only team to really show an interest in him last year what makes him think a year later he's gonna get anymore love from any other team. Come on Sharper get with the program. I hear alot of this crap it's not for the money it's for the team. WELL SHOW ME SOME TEAM!
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Old 04-09-2010, 10:07 AM   #14
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Sharper had a great year. But the 9 int he had this year were the same total as the previous 3 years combined. He was declining in Viqueenville and that's why we got him so cheap. He played well when allowed to freelance when Porter and Greer were in but not so well when they were out. Could have been his injury that slowed him also but when Greer and Porter were in he had 7 picks and only 2 when they were out and 1 was against a rookie. 3 million a year for 2 years and throw in a bonus for any picks over 4 and he should sign. But quit comparing his salary to Bush's. Bush is paid on the flawed draft position scale, how do you think the Raiders feel about paying Jamarcus all that money? Until they change the system we have to live with what players are paid whether or not their play justifies their pay. It's just getting old all this talk about what Reggie is making compared to someone else. And Reggie isn't going anywhere especially under his current contract.

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Re: Possible Darren Sharper suitors

Originally Posted by HintOfLogic View Post
What is "Fair Market Value" for a future HOF'er coming off of his best and Super Bowl capped season?

Put yourself in the Saints position, you're about to pay a hit or miss, sparingly used "decoy" 8 million for one year. How do you gauge what Sharper is worth in comparison to what Reggie Bush is getting paid? How do you compare them in regards to how pivotal they are at their position? How do you gauge them on the importance of their role played during the last season? Lots of questions..... I'm curious, you seem to have this all figured out. Is Sharper coming back at about 1/4th of what Reggie's set to get paid worth it? Why does everyone get so conservative and concerned when talking about getting Sharper paid, but no harping on Bush's ridiculous payday? ... seriously?

did you actually say, "so he should be honored that we want him back"?
why does Bush enter into every thread...Bush is Bush and Sharper is Sharper..both valuable pieces to our superbowl puzzel but not the same situation..What we as fans think and what Bush makes next year have no influence on signing Sharper
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:35 PM   #16
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why does Bush enter into every thread...Bush is Bush and Sharper is Sharper..both valuable pieces to our superbowl puzzel but not the same situation..What we as fans think and what Bush makes next year have no influence on signing Sharper
Well said.

this guy is bringing Bush-hate into a conversation about signing a guy that we all want back, but at a market price
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:51 PM   #17
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Wow Logic, Bush must have beat you up as a kid for you to hold such a grudge against him. I would think about seeking help for this. I'm not saying his was the best signing in the history of the NFL, but the way you go out of your way to find ways to bash him in threads that have nothing to do with him is odd. You work under the assumption that Bush's contract has an affect on all other aspects of the team...like Sharper in this case. That is your opinion and I for one do not agree with it. By releasing Grant the saints have shown that they are willing to cut ties with players that are not living up to their money. Obviously they feel Bush is. I'll take the opinion of the Super Bowl winning coaching staff and management over yours in the matter.
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Re: Possible Darren Sharper suitors

Originally Posted by mikesaintfan View Post
why does Bush enter into every thread...Bush is Bush and Sharper is Sharper..both valuable pieces to our superbowl puzzel but not the same situation..What we as fans think and what Bush makes next year have no influence on signing Sharper
I was kind of wondering that myself.

Reggie Bush has nothing to do with Sharper and vice versa. Can we please stay on topic for once!
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Old 04-09-2010, 01:45 PM   #19
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Plus after week 8 he was covering for a lot of other plyers who were hurt & out.
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Can we please stay on topic for once!
I like Ice Cream. LOL

Agreed on the Bush hate. Sharper is nearing the end, so he wants as much as he can get. I don't blame him for that. The Saints are being cautious with their money. I don't blame them either. And I fully expect both sides to get this done soon after the draft.
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