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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Interesting trip down (bad) memory lane. He forgot the Ricky Williams draft however. Every team has a list of players like this to bring up though. I doubt we are any worse than league average in drafting through our history....

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Old 04-12-2010, 03:49 PM   #1
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Interesting trip down (bad) memory lane. He forgot the Ricky Williams draft however. Every team has a list of players like this to bring up though. I doubt we are any worse than league average in drafting through our history.
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Interesting trip down (bad) memory lane. He forgot the Ricky Williams draft however. Every team has a list of players like this to bring up though. I doubt we are any worse than league average in drafting through our history.
The Lions and Bengals dome to mind
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The Lions and Bengals dome to mind
Good bet. I'd throw Tampa and the Clowns in that mix as well. They are sure to have a good list of Who nots as well.
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I think that Erxleben pick was the worst. Back then, in college, they kicked extra points and field goals off a tee and there was no way to know if you could kick without one. To use a 1st round pick for a punter is typical Saints. Come to think of it, I guess the punter on those teams was pretty important. He touched the ball on one of every four offensive snaps.
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I think that Erxleben pick was the worst. Back then, in college, they kicked extra points and field goals off a tee and there was no way to know if you could kick without one.
There is no doubt that he was the worst pick...ever...for any team.

It is a very astute observation, Poydras, regarding kicking off a tee. It makes a giant difference...especially for guys like Erxleben who was one of a dying breed of straight-on kickers. I was a straight-on kicker, and it was almost impossible to make the transition to kicking off the ground, as my heel would drag on the turf. I also tied my ankle up...and I believe that was illegal as well. No foreign matter other than your shoe could hit the ball. In my case it would have been the shoestring tying my ankle up crossing the front of my shoe as it went underneath and wrapped around the cleat in front.

I was not aware that they could not use tees for place-kicks in college any more. Are you sure about that?

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I was not aware that they could not use tees for place-kicks in college any more. Are you sure about that?
Only on the kickoff like in the NFL. The problem is that they still use a tee in high school; at least they do here in Mississippi.
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Only on the kickoff like in the NFL. The problem is that they still use a tee in high school; at least they do here in Mississippi.
We use tees here in Louisiana for All Place kicks as well!!! I coach a kid who can hit from 50 yards off the tee ( and I have game film of him doing it)but has an outside range of 38 off the ground!!! Go Figure!
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We use tees here in Louisiana for All Place kicks as well!!! I coach a kid who can hit from 50 yards off the tee ( and I have game film of him doing it)but has an outside range of 38 off the ground!!! Go Figure!
It's probably because of the quality of the fields in high school. The school I was associated with had a natural grass surface with poor drainage that was also used for soccer and resembled a battlefield by mid-season. Even really good soccer players couldn't get a place kick airborne when the ball settled an inch into the mud. Now that a lot of our big schools are going to synthetic turf, I see Mississippi discarding the tee soon.
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It's probably because of the quality of the fields in high school. The school I was associated with had a natural grass surface with poor drainage that was also used for soccer and resembled a battlefield by mid-season. Even really good soccer players couldn't get a place kick airborne when the ball settled an inch into the mud. Now that a lot of our big schools are going to synthetic turf, I see Mississippi discarding the tee soon.
Yea our field is used by 2 seperate 5A High schools and never gets a break!!! Ther is a game there every week and if we both have home games which happened twice last year one is played on Thursday the Friday game is in trouble. Gets comical (in a sad way).
By mid season you need a magnyfying glass to find grass on the field.
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