Jammal Brown to skip offseason workouts

SaintPauly · 04-14-2010, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

Send him off to the Cowgirls.

You must be psychic bro.... Just saw that he might be on the trading block with the Cowboys, come draft day. I say a 1st, and at least a 4th, or another player.

TheDeuce · 04-14-2010, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

You must be psychic bro.... Just saw that he might be on the trading block with the Cowboys, come draft day. I say a 1st, and at least a 4th, or another player.

You must be smoking something. Brown isn't even worth the 31st pick. If I was another team, I wouldn't give up anything better than the 48th pick. Injury prone and struggled against elite defensive ends.

SaintPauly · 04-14-2010, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

You must be smoking something. Brown isn't even worth the 31st pick. If I was another team, I wouldn't give up anything better than the 48th pick. Injury prone and struggled against elite defensive ends.

I don't think it's unreasonable at all. Brown is a two time pro bowl LT, and the cowboys need someone that reliable to protect Romo's blindside. A rookie isn't going to be able to do that in my opinion. And JJ wants a superbowl now, not next year.

CantonLegend · 04-15-2010, 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

Did I read this right? Jamaal Brown is invaluable?!?! He deserves whatever contract he wants?!?!

Surely I'm misunderstanding something here. Surely a guy who missed an entire season and saw the team do better than when he was playing is not invaluable. He's valuable because he's a good player, but invaluable is unbelievably... What's the word I'm looking for? Silly? Ridiculous?

Please explain what you meant, surely that's not what you intended.

im really not up to explaining why but i'll put it in a nutshell for you

brown is a 2 time pro bowl LT......he has missed significant time only once in his career(last year).....he isnt as injury prone as people make him out to be

oh yea.....and our backup that we put in last year......stunk

here's a little tid bit to help you understand what im talking about

He led the league in rushing average behind left tackle while only allowing 3 sacks in 2008.....and those holding and false start penalties he had? brown was credited with 7 penalties all season in 2008......combined he made up for 10 bad plays the entire season

when we passed the ball more than any other team in history and our starting LT only gives up 3 sacks and is credited with only 7 penalties all season......BROWN IS A STUD

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

You must be smoking something. Brown isn't even worth the 31st pick. If I was another team, I wouldn't give up anything better than the 48th pick. Injury prone and struggled against elite defensive ends.

i'll give you the name of another guy who struggles against elite defensive ends.....maybe you've heard of him......his name is EVERYBODY

TheDeuce · 04-17-2010, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

im really not up to explaining why but i'll put it in a nutshell for you

brown is a 2 time pro bowl LT......he has missed significant time only once in his career(last year).....he isnt as injury prone as people make him out to be

oh yea.....and our backup that we put in last year......stunk

here's a little tid bit to help you understand what im talking about

He led the league in rushing average behind left tackle while only allowing 3 sacks in 2008.....and those holding and false start penalties he had? brown was credited with 7 penalties all season in 2008......combined he made up for 10 bad plays the entire season

when we passed the ball more than any other team in history and our starting LT only gives up 3 sacks and is credited with only 7 penalties all season......BROWN IS A STUD

i'll give you the name of another guy who struggles against elite defensive ends.....maybe you've heard of him......his name is EVERYBODY

Perhaps you missed the point of my comment: JAMMAL BROWN IS NOT INVALUABLE. I don't think you know what invaluable means. If he was invaluable, there would have been no way to win a Super Bowl with him gone for the entire season.

Here's what Pat Yasinkas wrote two days ago:

Falling

New Orleans offensive tackle Jammal Brown. He reportedly will stay away from offseason workouts and we can only assume that’s Brown’s way of stating he wants a big, long-term contract. That’s a bit of a risky move. Brown is an above average left tackle, but he’s not dominant. He missed last year with an injury and the Saints got by with Jermon Bushrod and Zach Strief. That wasn’t an ideal situation, but it showed the Saints can function without Brown. That could turn out to be a sign of things to come. Take a look around the league. Teams aren't rushing to give out long-term deals because they don't know what's going to happen with the labor situation. Brown's not exactly playing from a position of strength right now.

And yes, Brown is injury prone. Not once in his five year career has he played 16 games. While this past season was the longest, I still consider somebody who can never play a full season to be injury prone.

And while Bushrod certainly isn't as good as Brown, he's no chump. The Saints line, as a total, gave up the fourth fewest sacks in the NFL so let's not try to paint him as a terrible lineman. The Saints also had the fourth most rushing first downs in the NFL when rushing to the left side, and the seventh most rushes over 10 yards.

QBREES9 · 04-14-2010, 10:02 PM

Thats if he not drunk and wants to talk sh*** about somebody. Put Zach over there he play LT

Cruize · 04-17-2010, 05:38 PM

Brown will bring a high 3rd at best in a trade with maybe a conditional 4th next year that could become a third thrown in. But, when it's all said and done, I expect Brown to be a Saint in 2010. And for the 2010 season, my opinion is that's for the best. There no doubt Bushrod can get the job done. But, the more talent and depth the better. Without Brown and with an injury to Bushrod or Stinchcomb, Strief is starting with no depth behind him. The downside is with all the tackles being free agents next year and two most likely leaving, a strength becomes a weakness real quick.

MatthewT · 04-17-2010, 10:52 PM

I have no worries about Brown not reporting to offseason workouts. He is coming off a very serious injury, I am sure he is working his tail off to get better again. Let's face it, most veterans who have an opportunity to skip offseason and training camp will do so in a heartbeat. Not saying it's really right, but most veterans already know how to get ready for the season without these camps.

Rugby Saint II · 04-18-2010, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

I have no worries about Brown not reporting to offseason workouts. He is coming off a very serious injury, I am sure he is working his tail off to get better again. Let's face it, most veterans who have an opportunity to skip offseason and training camp will do so in a heartbeat. Not saying it's really right, but most veterans already know how to get ready for the season without these camps.

Last year we had close to 100% attendance at off season work outs and won the Suberbowl. Let's see how many commit again this year. That could be the litmus test for this seasons record.

jeanpierre · 04-18-2010, 09:43 AM

What can play out...Best Case Scenario would be...

A franchise in contention for the upcoming season loses it's left tackle; Brown gets the contract he wants and hopefully it's not the Saints who move the "Left" tackle and their No. 1, move up no less than fourteen spots, and pick up a mid two (if you follow the draft board slot value schedule used by many teams - see internet)...

What is likely to happen is AFTER the draft a team has OTA injury(s) or a really agressive/desperate coach who thinks he's that close (heard that before) trade a pick that they may not get to use as they are not going to be around to use (see - Haslett)...

04-14-2010, 10:54 PM	#1
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Jammal Brown to skip offseason workouts Originally Posted by QBREES9 Send him off to the Cowgirls. You must be psychic bro.... Just saw that he might be on the trading block with the Cowboys, come draft day. I say a 1st, and at least a 4th, or another player.

04-14-2010, 11:17 PM	#2
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: Jammal Brown to skip offseason workouts Originally Posted by saintpaul25 You must be psychic bro.... Just saw that he might be on the trading block with the Cowboys, come draft day. I say a 1st, and at least a 4th, or another player. You must be smoking something. Brown isn't even worth the 31st pick. If I was another team, I wouldn't give up anything better than the 48th pick. Injury prone and struggled against elite defensive ends.
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04-14-2010, 11:27 PM	#3
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Jammal Brown to skip offseason workouts Originally Posted by TheDeuce You must be smoking something. Brown isn't even worth the 31st pick. If I was another team, I wouldn't give up anything better than the 48th pick. Injury prone and struggled against elite defensive ends. I don't think it's unreasonable at all. Brown is a two time pro bowl LT, and the cowboys need someone that reliable to protect Romo's blindside. A rookie isn't going to be able to do that in my opinion. And JJ wants a superbowl now, not next year.

04-15-2010, 01:33 AM	#4
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Jammal Brown to skip offseason workouts Originally Posted by TheDeuce Did I read this right? Jamaal Brown is invaluable?!?! He deserves whatever contract he wants?!?! Surely I'm misunderstanding something here. Surely a guy who missed an entire season and saw the team do better than when he was playing is not invaluable. He's valuable because he's a good player, but invaluable is unbelievably... What's the word I'm looking for? Silly? Ridiculous? Please explain what you meant, surely that's not what you intended. im really not up to explaining why but i'll put it in a nutshell for you brown is a 2 time pro bowl LT......he has missed significant time only once in his career(last year).....he isnt as injury prone as people make him out to be oh yea.....and our backup that we put in last year......stunk here's a little tid bit to help you understand what im talking about He led the league in rushing average behind left tackle while only allowing 3 sacks in 2008.....and those holding and false start penalties he had? brown was credited with 7 penalties all season in 2008......combined he made up for 10 bad plays the entire season when we passed the ball more than any other team in history and our starting LT only gives up 3 sacks and is credited with only 7 penalties all season......BROWN IS A STUD Originally Posted by TheDeuce You must be smoking something. Brown isn't even worth the 31st pick. If I was another team, I wouldn't give up anything better than the 48th pick. Injury prone and struggled against elite defensive ends. i'll give you the name of another guy who struggles against elite defensive ends.....maybe you've heard of him......his name is EVERYBODY
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04-17-2010, 02:17 PM	#5
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: Jammal Brown to skip offseason workouts Originally Posted by CantonLegend im really not up to explaining why but i'll put it in a nutshell for you brown is a 2 time pro bowl LT......he has missed significant time only once in his career(last year).....he isnt as injury prone as people make him out to be oh yea.....and our backup that we put in last year......stunk here's a little tid bit to help you understand what im talking about He led the league in rushing average behind left tackle while only allowing 3 sacks in 2008.....and those holding and false start penalties he had? brown was credited with 7 penalties all season in 2008......combined he made up for 10 bad plays the entire season when we passed the ball more than any other team in history and our starting LT only gives up 3 sacks and is credited with only 7 penalties all season......BROWN IS A STUD i'll give you the name of another guy who struggles against elite defensive ends.....maybe you've heard of him......his name is EVERYBODY Perhaps you missed the point of my comment: JAMMAL BROWN IS NOT INVALUABLE. I don't think you know what invaluable means. If he was invaluable, there would have been no way to win a Super Bowl with him gone for the entire season. Here's what Pat Yasinkas wrote two days ago: Falling New Orleans offensive tackle Jammal Brown. He reportedly will stay away from offseason workouts and we can only assume that’s Brown’s way of stating he wants a big, long-term contract. That’s a bit of a risky move. Brown is an above average left tackle, but he’s not dominant. He missed last year with an injury and the Saints got by with Jermon Bushrod and Zach Strief. That wasn’t an ideal situation, but it showed the Saints can function without Brown. That could turn out to be a sign of things to come. Take a look around the league. Teams aren't rushing to give out long-term deals because they don't know what's going to happen with the labor situation. Brown's not exactly playing from a position of strength right now. And yes, Brown is injury prone. Not once in his five year career has he played 16 games. While this past season was the longest, I still consider somebody who can never play a full season to be injury prone. And while Bushrod certainly isn't as good as Brown, he's no chump. The Saints line, as a total, gave up the fourth fewest sacks in the NFL so let's not try to paint him as a terrible lineman. The Saints also had the fourth most rushing first downs in the NFL when rushing to the left side, and the seventh most rushes over 10 yards.
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04-14-2010, 10:02 PM	#6
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: Jammal Brown to skip offseason workouts Thats if he not drunk and wants to talk sh*** about somebody. Put Zach over there he play LT

04-17-2010, 05:38 PM	#7
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Re: Jammal Brown to skip offseason workouts Brown will bring a high 3rd at best in a trade with maybe a conditional 4th next year that could become a third thrown in. But, when it's all said and done, I expect Brown to be a Saint in 2010. And for the 2010 season, my opinion is that's for the best. There no doubt Bushrod can get the job done. But, the more talent and depth the better. Without Brown and with an injury to Bushrod or Stinchcomb, Strief is starting with no depth behind him. The downside is with all the tackles being free agents next year and two most likely leaving, a strength becomes a weakness real quick.
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04-17-2010, 10:52 PM	#8
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Jammal Brown to skip offseason workouts I have no worries about Brown not reporting to offseason workouts. He is coming off a very serious injury, I am sure he is working his tail off to get better again. Let's face it, most veterans who have an opportunity to skip offseason and training camp will do so in a heartbeat. Not saying it's really right, but most veterans already know how to get ready for the season without these camps.

04-18-2010, 11:00 PM	#9
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,182	Re: Jammal Brown to skip offseason workouts Originally Posted by MatthewT I have no worries about Brown not reporting to offseason workouts. He is coming off a very serious injury, I am sure he is working his tail off to get better again. Let's face it, most veterans who have an opportunity to skip offseason and training camp will do so in a heartbeat. Not saying it's really right, but most veterans already know how to get ready for the season without these camps. Last year we had close to 100% attendance at off season work outs and won the Suberbowl. Let's see how many commit again this year. That could be the litmus test for this seasons record.

04-18-2010, 09:43 AM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Jammal Brown to skip offseason workouts What can play out...Best Case Scenario would be... A franchise in contention for the upcoming season loses it's left tackle; Brown gets the contract he wants and hopefully it's not the Saints who move the "Left" tackle and their No. 1, move up no less than fourteen spots, and pick up a mid two (if you follow the draft board slot value schedule used by many teams - see internet)... What is likely to happen is AFTER the draft a team has OTA injury(s) or a really agressive/desperate coach who thinks he's that close (heard that before) trade a pick that they may not get to use as they are not going to be around to use (see - Haslett)...
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