Drew Brees tweets a message to all New Orleanians.

04-14-2010, 10:22 PM

I live in a town of almost 70k, and we have maybe one murder a month. (Yeah, you're all thinking, "Wow, that's nothing.") Living here for as long as I have, I like the fact that the crime rate is so low here compared to bigger cities. I would love to move back to New Orleans, but the high crime rate scares me, thus preventing me from moving back.

SaintPauly · 04-14-2010, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by breesfan27

I live in a town of almost 70k, and we have maybe one murder a month. (Yeah, you're all thinking, "Wow, that's nothing.") Living here for as long as I have, I like the fact that the crime rate is so low here compared to bigger cities. I would love to move back to New Orleans, but the high crime rate scares me, thus preventing me from moving back.

No one is going to wrong you, for wanting to be able to sleep at night, feeling safe about it. I miss Mississippi, for the same reasons. We didn't even have to lock our doors at night, unless we just wanted too. I could leave my keys in my car, in the front yard, and it was still there when I woke up the next day. My only question is, what happens, when all of the good people that live in the city, finally get fed up, and leave? I guess the thieves and the damned, will have to kill, and steal from each other. Either that, or they will follow us to the country I guess. They are like a virus, the only way to get rid of it, is to..... Well you guys know....

HintOfLogic · 04-15-2010, 12:03 AM

New Orleans is a failed judicial system. It's all repeat offenders and their offenses all always evolving till they're wanted for murder or shot up on sidewalks.

My friend is a probation officer and I've heard it all.

I've got problems with the gangs and drugs (which it all evolves around) and I've got problems with integrity of the law enforcements (and lack thereof).... but N.O. failed judicial system casually recycles the same trash right back into the streets. I think it's been referred to as a revolving door system.

strato · 04-15-2010, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by HintOfLogic

New Orleans is a failed judicial system. It's all repeat offenders and their offenses all always evolving till they're wanted for murder or shot up on sidewalks.

My friend is a probation officer and I've heard it all.

I've got problems with the gangs and drugs (which it all evolves around) and I've got problems with integrity of the law enforcements (and lack thereof).... but N.O. failed judicial system casually recycles the same trash right back into the streets. I think it's been referred to as a revolving door system.

I can see that..do you think that the whole party atmosphere in NOLA contirbutes to the crime?...Ive always wondered this..I know the politics are corrupt ...but ive wondered if the whole vibe is part of the problem...just curious..

SaintPauly · 04-15-2010, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by HintOfLogic

New Orleans is a failed judicial system. It's all repeat offenders and their offenses all always evolving till they're wanted for murder or shot up on sidewalks.

My friend is a probation officer and I've heard it all.

I've got problems with the gangs and drugs (which it all evolves around) and I've got problems with integrity of the law enforcements (and lack thereof).... but N.O. failed judicial system casually recycles the same trash right back into the streets. I think it's been referred to as a revolving door system.

Yes, I agree with that statement, and it's NOT just N.O., it's the entire country my friend. Heck, something like 40% of the population inside prisons right now, aren't even U.S. citizens! They would rather be in jail here, than free in their own country.

Revolving door is the idea. But like I said before, we live in a country, that thrives on violence. It's on television, movies, in music, it's everywhere. Of course, those things are going to infiltrate into people's on personal lives. I remember seeing a story, about a kid somewhere in Alabama, that stole a car, and was driving it like he was in the video game, Grand Theft Auto! He was like 14 years old.

Crime, in every city of America, is going up yearly, and until the people who are having to foot the bill for these hooligan's, to stay in jail, get tired of it, and do something about it, it will continue to get worse. In other words, the system isn't failing, it has failed. So time for a new system.

SaintPauly · 04-15-2010, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by strato

I can see that..do you think that the whole party atmosphere in NOLA contirbutes to the crime?...Ive always wondered this..I know the politics are corrupt ...but ive wondered if the whole vibe is part of the problem...just curious..

I don't think it does. I think that in New Orleans, everyone knows where the drunken tourists are, and that's where they go to take advantage of the situation. Some people have the ability to go party, drink, and have a good time, without shooting anyone. It's the thugs, and wastes of oxygen, that look to profit off of people who do that, that are to blame. Used to be these so-called "gangsters", kept this kind of bs, in their own neighborhoods. Once they figured out they couldn't move up in life, robbing from people that are just as poor as they are, they had to move the operation into the better parts of town. It's very sad really.

Turbo Saint · 04-15-2010, 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by strato

I can see that..do you think that the whole party atmosphere in NOLA contirbutes to the crime?...Ive always wondered this..I know the politics are corrupt ...but ive wondered if the whole vibe is part of the problem...just curious..

i really don't think that atmosphere has anything to do with it simply b/c it's not the tourists (a) or the locals that go out in the quarter (b) that do the crimes. it's the douchies in the melph and ex-nolia that wanna keep their "reps" in check.

and honestly, i hope it continues b/c sooner or later they'll kill all of each other until there's no one on "the other side" left to kill. not like they're attacking the brees family, or the turbo saint family walking down the sidewalk even if it was on lasalle and washington...just doesn't happen like that.

there's not a street in new orleans i wouldn't walk down and i've walked down most of em...it's all about perception and maybe i'm naive, but little haiti in miami never made me bat an eye either...most of the crime is criminal on criminal. nothing to worry about...just my perception.

HintOfLogic · 04-15-2010, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by strato

I can see that..do you think that the whole party atmosphere in NOLA contirbutes to the crime?...Ive always wondered this..I know the politics are corrupt ...but ive wondered if the whole vibe is part of the problem...just curious..

Not at all.... the crime comes from the ghettos and poverty. Simple as that. The most "policed" areas of N.O. are the party atmospheres (you know, where the tourism / money is generated). The daily murders are not drunken, party foolishness, it's kids turned drug dealers killing each other over petty little issues if they think they were ripped off of $20 for example.

If I really want to get into it, I'd blame the parents of the criminals, who were also likely criminals and don't know how to parent and so on.... It's a long story theory, but I assure you at the root of the crime is a mass of parents (or parent in most cases) that don't know where their kids are, what they're up to and don't care. Or for the older ones, they grew up without that supervision.

HintOfLogic · 04-15-2010, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

I remember seeing a story, about a kid somewhere in Alabama, that stole a car, and was driving it like he was in the video game, Grand Theft Auto! He was like 14 years old.

That's a familiar story..... something similar to that happened a few years ago here and it was apparent that the kids were playing "Real Life GTA". I was telling everyone I talked to that I think they were warped by or maybe even just influenced by playing the game so much. Everyone laughed at me like it's not conceivable... but it was really obvious by the actions they took. Funny. Not much anyone can do about that though. Again, I think that's a - to each his own responsibility per parent...

BIGEASY504 · 04-15-2010, 07:52 AM

There is a history of crime in New Orleans and it goes way back to when the ports were established it was to the point where official turned a blind eye to it and then eventually became working for the mob and taking payoffs. The whole government body needs to be cleaned out so hopefully the new regime will be a lot better. But New Orleans is not the only city just a question did you know in Austin TX has 5 murders in the last 7 days. Yes it needs to stop but this is everywhere.

04-14-2010, 10:22 PM	#21
Threaded by breesfan27 Mrs. Drew Brees Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Who Dat Nation (by way of South Dakota) Posts: 2,276 Blog Entries: 1 Rating: (0 votes - average) I live in a town of almost 70k, and we have maybe one murder a month. (Yeah, you're all thinking, "Wow, that's nothing.") Living here for as long as I have, I like the fact that the crime rate is so low here compared to bigger cities. I would love to move back to New Orleans, but the high crime rate scares me, thus preventing me from moving back.
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04-14-2010, 10:29 PM	#22
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Drew Brees tweets a message to all New Orleanians. Originally Posted by breesfan27 I live in a town of almost 70k, and we have maybe one murder a month. (Yeah, you're all thinking, "Wow, that's nothing.") Living here for as long as I have, I like the fact that the crime rate is so low here compared to bigger cities. I would love to move back to New Orleans, but the high crime rate scares me, thus preventing me from moving back. No one is going to wrong you, for wanting to be able to sleep at night, feeling safe about it. I miss Mississippi, for the same reasons. We didn't even have to lock our doors at night, unless we just wanted too. I could leave my keys in my car, in the front yard, and it was still there when I woke up the next day. My only question is, what happens, when all of the good people that live in the city, finally get fed up, and leave? I guess the thieves and the damned, will have to kill, and steal from each other. Either that, or they will follow us to the country I guess. They are like a virus, the only way to get rid of it, is to..... Well you guys know....
	What's popular is not always right, and what's right is not always popular.....

04-15-2010, 12:03 AM	#23
HintOfLogic 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 194	Re: Drew Brees tweets a message to all New Orleanians. New Orleans is a failed judicial system. It's all repeat offenders and their offenses all always evolving till they're wanted for murder or shot up on sidewalks. My friend is a probation officer and I've heard it all. I've got problems with the gangs and drugs (which it all evolves around) and I've got problems with integrity of the law enforcements (and lack thereof).... but N.O. failed judicial system casually recycles the same trash right back into the streets. I think it's been referred to as a revolving door system.
HintOfLogic 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 194

04-15-2010, 12:09 AM	#24
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Re: Drew Brees tweets a message to all New Orleanians. Originally Posted by HintOfLogic New Orleans is a failed judicial system. It's all repeat offenders and their offenses all always evolving till they're wanted for murder or shot up on sidewalks. My friend is a probation officer and I've heard it all. I've got problems with the gangs and drugs (which it all evolves around) and I've got problems with integrity of the law enforcements (and lack thereof).... but N.O. failed judicial system casually recycles the same trash right back into the streets. I think it's been referred to as a revolving door system. I can see that..do you think that the whole party atmosphere in NOLA contirbutes to the crime?...Ive always wondered this..I know the politics are corrupt ...but ive wondered if the whole vibe is part of the problem...just curious..

04-15-2010, 12:18 AM	#25
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Drew Brees tweets a message to all New Orleanians. Originally Posted by HintOfLogic New Orleans is a failed judicial system. It's all repeat offenders and their offenses all always evolving till they're wanted for murder or shot up on sidewalks. My friend is a probation officer and I've heard it all. I've got problems with the gangs and drugs (which it all evolves around) and I've got problems with integrity of the law enforcements (and lack thereof).... but N.O. failed judicial system casually recycles the same trash right back into the streets. I think it's been referred to as a revolving door system. Yes, I agree with that statement, and it's NOT just N.O., it's the entire country my friend. Heck, something like 40% of the population inside prisons right now, aren't even U.S. citizens! They would rather be in jail here, than free in their own country. Revolving door is the idea. But like I said before, we live in a country, that thrives on violence. It's on television, movies, in music, it's everywhere. Of course, those things are going to infiltrate into people's on personal lives. I remember seeing a story, about a kid somewhere in Alabama, that stole a car, and was driving it like he was in the video game, Grand Theft Auto! He was like 14 years old. Crime, in every city of America, is going up yearly, and until the people who are having to foot the bill for these hooligan's, to stay in jail, get tired of it, and do something about it, it will continue to get worse. In other words, the system isn't failing, it has failed. So time for a new system.
	What's popular is not always right, and what's right is not always popular.....

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04-15-2010, 12:23 AM	#26
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Drew Brees tweets a message to all New Orleanians. Originally Posted by strato I can see that..do you think that the whole party atmosphere in NOLA contirbutes to the crime?...Ive always wondered this..I know the politics are corrupt ...but ive wondered if the whole vibe is part of the problem...just curious.. I don't think it does. I think that in New Orleans, everyone knows where the drunken tourists are, and that's where they go to take advantage of the situation. Some people have the ability to go party, drink, and have a good time, without shooting anyone. It's the thugs, and wastes of oxygen, that look to profit off of people who do that, that are to blame. Used to be these so-called "gangsters", kept this kind of bs, in their own neighborhoods. Once they figured out they couldn't move up in life, robbing from people that are just as poor as they are, they had to move the operation into the better parts of town. It's very sad really.
	What's popular is not always right, and what's right is not always popular.....

04-15-2010, 12:48 AM	#27
Turbo Saint SoCal Saint Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: OB - San Diego, CA Posts: 726	Re: Drew Brees tweets a message to all New Orleanians. Originally Posted by strato I can see that..do you think that the whole party atmosphere in NOLA contirbutes to the crime?...Ive always wondered this..I know the politics are corrupt ...but ive wondered if the whole vibe is part of the problem...just curious.. i really don't think that atmosphere has anything to do with it simply b/c it's not the tourists (a) or the locals that go out in the quarter (b) that do the crimes. it's the douchies in the melph and ex-nolia that wanna keep their "reps" in check. and honestly, i hope it continues b/c sooner or later they'll kill all of each other until there's no one on "the other side" left to kill. not like they're attacking the brees family, or the turbo saint family walking down the sidewalk even if it was on lasalle and washington...just doesn't happen like that. there's not a street in new orleans i wouldn't walk down and i've walked down most of em...it's all about perception and maybe i'm naive, but little haiti in miami never made me bat an eye either...most of the crime is criminal on criminal. nothing to worry about...just my perception.
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04-15-2010, 12:54 AM	#28
HintOfLogic 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 194	Re: Drew Brees tweets a message to all New Orleanians. Originally Posted by strato I can see that..do you think that the whole party atmosphere in NOLA contirbutes to the crime?...Ive always wondered this..I know the politics are corrupt ...but ive wondered if the whole vibe is part of the problem...just curious.. Not at all.... the crime comes from the ghettos and poverty. Simple as that. The most "policed" areas of N.O. are the party atmospheres (you know, where the tourism / money is generated). The daily murders are not drunken, party foolishness, it's kids turned drug dealers killing each other over petty little issues if they think they were ripped off of $20 for example. If I really want to get into it, I'd blame the parents of the criminals, who were also likely criminals and don't know how to parent and so on.... It's a long story theory, but I assure you at the root of the crime is a mass of parents (or parent in most cases) that don't know where their kids are, what they're up to and don't care. Or for the older ones, they grew up without that supervision.
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04-15-2010, 01:08 AM	#29
HintOfLogic 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 194	Re: Drew Brees tweets a message to all New Orleanians. Originally Posted by saintpaul25 I remember seeing a story, about a kid somewhere in Alabama, that stole a car, and was driving it like he was in the video game, Grand Theft Auto! He was like 14 years old. That's a familiar story..... something similar to that happened a few years ago here and it was apparent that the kids were playing "Real Life GTA". I was telling everyone I talked to that I think they were warped by or maybe even just influenced by playing the game so much. Everyone laughed at me like it's not conceivable... but it was really obvious by the actions they took. Funny. Not much anyone can do about that though. Again, I think that's a - to each his own responsibility per parent...
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04-15-2010, 07:52 AM	#30
BIGEASY504 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 487	Re: Drew Brees tweets a message to all New Orleanians. There is a history of crime in New Orleans and it goes way back to when the ports were established it was to the point where official turned a blind eye to it and then eventually became working for the mob and taking payoffs. The whole government body needs to be cleaned out so hopefully the new regime will be a lot better. But New Orleans is not the only city just a question did you know in Austin TX has 5 murders in the last 7 days. Yes it needs to stop but this is everywhere.
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