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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by HintOfLogic Not at all.... the crime comes from the ghettos and poverty. Simple as that. The most "policed" areas of N.O. are the party atmospheres (you know, where the tourism / money is generated). The daily murders ...
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04-15-2010, 09:09 AM | #31 |
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Originally Posted by HintOfLogic
Exactly..shouldnt the party be left alone by police to deal with the real crime..Ive always thought that the party is a big distraction to what really needs to be addressed...i know NOLA needs the tourisim..but i think it adds to the problem..I dunno i dont live there so its just an outsiders opinion..which really is irrelavent..
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04-15-2010, 09:13 AM | #32 |
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Originally Posted by BIGEASY504
As i stated earlier in this thread Texas even with the death penalty has a lot of murders..it doesnt deter it at all..I think all criminals that committ murder dont ever think they will be caught ...so knowing they could face the death penalty never stops them...
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04-15-2010, 11:12 AM | #33 |
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Maybe you're right Strat, but the one's that do get put to death won't get out in 10-15 years and start back up where they left off...leaving another family without a son, daughter, mother, father, or in your case, a cousin. That may sound cold, but it's the cold hard fact. |
04-15-2010, 09:31 PM | #34 |
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you're totally right. the death penalty does nothing to help rehabilitate, prevent, or "correct" the criminals. the states' citizens have to start thinking for any of the above to happen.
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04-15-2010, 11:51 PM | #35 |
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I confess I'm not up on the stats, but I don't think the intention of the death penalty is to 'rehabilitate' or 'correct', I think it's to punish someone for an ultimate wrong, and while it may (or may not) go on to deter someone else from doing the same thing (and I personally doubt it does much of that), it sure as hell puts a stop to the guy getting the 'gas' from doing it again.
Sorta like that bug that hits your windshield - you can bet he won't have the guts to do that again. |
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04-16-2010, 12:53 AM | #36 |
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Originally Posted by HintOfLogic
But I think that's the point here. We live in a different time, than I was a kid. My mom stayed home with me, until I was at least ten, or eleven. Now a days, with the economy as terrible as it is, both parents HAVE to work, if you have kids. While I agree that parents need to take the lead role, in the raising, and instilling values, in their children, it also fall on the community to help out. As well as the people who our children are looking up too, and immulating. Take us all here for example. When one of our players does something completely idiotic, even if he's a great player, the majority of us jump on them with both feet, even though we don't really know him. Why not do this with the kids in our neighborhoods? Why not keep a watchful eye out, and help these kids, that need helping? We can't keep blaming a system, that we all helped to disable, if we aren't willing to do our part to make it work. And in my mind, that means doing more, than just complaining about it, and passing the buck onto the parents, the police, and the politicians.
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04-16-2010, 01:33 AM | #37 |
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WAIT! Are you saying that they evacuated New Orleanians to Austin TOO! Only Explanation! .... kidding, but yeah that sucks.
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04-16-2010, 01:53 AM | #38 |
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Originally Posted by saintpaul25
Couldn't agree more, but the people that make up their communities share the same mentality as the absent minded and unconcerned parents. Not being mean, but it's just how it is.
I don't want to get to into it, because I'll spare my nerves.... but a small example that struck me as interesting (er, obvious) happened a little while back: a couple teens stole a car and went on a wild and dangerous police chase through the city. When the cops caught up to them, the cops shot them up.. like 50 rounds into them or so. In other words, overkill.... and some might say, not even necessary to shot / kill. So, what happens...... the church of the community that the kids spawned from, the families and community rallied together, committed all of their focus and energy to fight against the brutality, and unjust actions they felt the police took. hmmmm..... I'm not speaking on whether voicing their opinion had any validity to it or not.... BUT, here's my point. If they would focus half that much energy and dedication that it takes to be accountable parents and community, they would eliminate this foolishness in the first place. They wasted no time and energy pulling together, rallying, parading and everything when they felt they where wronged... and maybe more importantly, when they felt they were due something do to authorities wrong doings. It's typically convenient that they get vocal and concerned when they are inconvenienced and felt owed something, but otherwise unconcerned with the day to day development and reliability of their youth. |
04-16-2010, 01:59 AM | #39 |
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Originally Posted by HintOfLogic
Then I can honestly say, that we both agree for the most part. It's the definition of shame, when a community uses the death of it's own, to gain favor, or possible monetary gain. It's a crying shame.
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