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but that's exactly why we should take one with our 2nd. Our 3rd pick will be only one spot away from the 4th round! I don't think the talent pool is that deep.

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I knew dat, NOT! I thought the avatar was a picture of what you like, not what you look like and DAMN, JUST DAMN! ROFLMAO. You had me at football. Thanks for the lesson P.

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You won't win with that pick.

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I was joking, silly.

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The difference between the top LB's left on the board and the 30th LB on the board is not as great as the difference between the top DT's and those in the 10-15 range. The defensive tackle is intricately involved in every defensive play while the strong side backer is much less involved. I would much rather have more talent at the point of impact ... the line ... than at linebacker.

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but we already have talent on the defensive line. Presently, without Fujita, we just have a 10 man starting defense. Our linebacker pick, whether it's the 64th pick or the 224th pick is going to be that 11th man.

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Poydras have you forgotten Marvin Mitchell or Casillas they could very well be the guys filling that whole

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Yes, it was a picture of me in front of the fountain at Pat Obriens. Before that, I had a picture in my seat at the SuperDome. I felt kinda narcissistic with my picture there all the time so I changed it. I'm still trying to come up with one more appropriate.

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Our depth chart only has Troy Evans behind Scott Fujita and he's 32 years old. It my understanding that Scott left because he was under the impression that we were going to go "younger and more athletic" with that position. Also, I don't remember either Casillas or Mitchell filling in well when Scott was out for a few games last year.

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Poydras throwin down the knowledge...lol...

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Sure, Sed Ellis is a stud, but he has shown durability issues. Remi Ayodele is okay, but another above average DT beside Ellis would really make a difference. There isn't a big step down in ability between Fujita and Casillas/Mitchell.

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Your right they were not the best when they filled in but i thought they showed an abiity to improve as they went I personally like Mitchell. Casillas will develop into a decent role player as time goes on.

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There we go someone who understands my point

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I'm just upset we didn't keep Scott! I kinda liked him. Yeah, I know $14 million and all but still .......

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Casillas played extensive time in weeks 16 and 17. He really looked good and racked up 17 tackles over those two weeks.

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rolando mcclain just made top 10 money because of 3 big hogs at alabama

vilma didnt like the 3-4 because he was eating blockers while the other LB was makin plays

he would play a ton better with a big guy 4 yards in front of him eating blockers for him

think of how much better our speedy LBs would be if they could go unblocked

arnoux and cassillas are little for LBs but that wouldnt matter if they didnt get touched

we have a lot of depth at LB......we dont have a starter at NT and we dont have a starter at SLB

which one is more important? the one that starts closest to the ball or the one that plays 5 yards away from the ball at all times?

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I like Scott too. My wife almost came to tears when he left. She wore her #55 jersey for the last two years. I have followed his career since he was first drafted and he has always been a solid, but not outstanding player. There are plenty of LB's out there that match that description.

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Translation: please please please please pick Cody!!!!

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OK, but that goes back to the question I asked earlier. Neither Mitchell nor Casillas are listed as Strong Side Linebackers. With today's specialization, are those positions interchangable?

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lol i might as well just say that in all my posts

forget trying to explain it.....just come out and say it

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no....SLB needs to be bigger and needs to be able to control a blocker or secure a tackle

WLB needs to be much faster and better in space

the positions are not interchangeable

however......if you have guys up front to eat blockers, then the SLB does not need to and can try to make plays instead

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Yes they are interchangeable. the only real difference is you put your more physical guy strong side. There are actually times last year when they would set Fujita away from the strong side or would not shift with the offense. Youi can actually on the Championship DVD hear Vilma saying I think in the Washington game that he was going to set the defense away from the strong side. Of course thats because they were running weak side alot and he wanted the more Physical backer taking on the run

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I guess we need to table this discussion until someone takes cody off the board this evening.

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yeah, and then said "they're comin' back to the bubble." I'm not going to pretend I have any idea what any of that meant.

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nah that had nothing to do with cody

just trying to answer the question

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Canton I hate to disagree with you here but speaking as a coach ( I coach High School ) and understand that we are talking night and day , but although youre initial eval as to who you would put on either side is acurate it doesnt mean they arent interchangeable. Weak side will face mis direction runs screens and wheel routes so should have ability to cover. but a line backer is a line backer and should be able to hold his own across the field.

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Casillas played both SLB and WLB at Wisconsin. He can handle either.

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bubble screen ...running back makes a belly in his route going about 5-7 yards deep in the back field and catches ball heading toward line of scrimmage.

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obviously

however......there are different skill sets and like you said.....the quicker LB usually goes on the weakside and the bigger LB usually goes on the strongside

in high school most people run a 4-4 or a 3-4 or sometimes a 4-2-5

and your positions are limited to the kids available at the school

however.....in the NFL each position is specialized and each player has a specific skill set to match that position

there is a reason players are scouted as a Cover 2 corner or a WLB

they have the skill set to play that position but not necessarily the other man-corner or SLB

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my point exactly they are interchangeable but i will say it depends totally on the coaches philosophy and his confidence in his backers. have i caused enough confusion now.

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I agree that the do specialize but not that it should close doors when talking about your depth chart much the same way that a guy might play every position on the OL I think we are talking (Ideally) and (filling in getting a job done.)

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So what did "they're coming back to the bubble" mean in the context in which he said it? (I'm assuming you've seen the Saints Championship DVD as many times as I have.)

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of course.....if you play LB you should be able to fill in anywhere....

just like a center should be able to play guard

but there are definitly players with skill sets better suited for one or the other

not everybody that is an OLB can play MLB and vice versa......not everybody that can take on blockers and cover in space.....thats the reason sergio kindle is scouted as a SLB/DE and sean weatherspoon is scouted as a WLB

different skill sets

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They had ran a bubble screen a couple times he set away from their strenght because they were coming back to the bubble(running it again) and he wanted to be set up to stop it when they did set up in a formation they wouldnt expect have them run into a "Trap" of sorts. you know be in one place when they think your somewhere else.

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bubble screen in the spread is usually in a trips set where a WR is matched up against a safety

2 WRs fire out and block while the 3rd sits back and takes the screen pass

havent seen the saints DVD so if its different on there i have no idea what you're talking about

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Yeah ..special skill sets do apply...not all LBs can cover..and some cant defend the run as well..thats elementary...we need a run stuffer..and the LBs we have will be servicable...

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Well ... uh ... that clears that up. :)
Maybe someone here still has a tape of the arizona game and I can go back and watch it.

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Poydras - :itsgood:

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dang! OLBs are dropping off the board like crazy!

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Don't worry about OLB's. Believe me, a DT is more vital.