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poydras · 04-23-2010, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by D_it_up

Wrong about Arnoux:

COLLEGE CAREER – A three-year starter at Wake Forest, Arnoux opened 42 of 51 games for the Demon Deacons at middle linebacker and is considered by scouts versatile enough to also play on the outside in the NFL. He was extremely productive throughout his college career, annually ranking among the team leaders in tackles. He posted 245 stops, five sacks, three interceptions, four fumble recoveries and six deflected passes while at Wake Forest. Arnoux started 39 of his final 40 collegiate contests and averaged seven tackles a game as a senior.

Wrong about Dunbar:

NFL CAREER – The lone undrafted rookie free agent to start the season on the club’s active roster in 2008, Dunbar has proven his worth with his inspired play on special teams, where he has recorded 28 special teams tackles in two seasons. He has also started five games at strongside linebacker during his tenure with the Saints, recording 23 tackles and three passes defensed

oh yeah?
Arnoux: "Shorter than scouts would like and a bit round in the middle. … Lacks the instincts and quick first step preferred at the "Mike" 'backer position. … Takes a moment to recognize the action and is slow to flow toward the ball. … Lacks the straight-line speed to beat backs to the flanks and is a liability in coverage. … Lacks the lateral agility to consistently get around blockers in tight quarters, thus relying on his pop to disengage. … Needs an open lane to close when rushing the quarterback."

and Dunbar: "Has good closing speed, but lacks the lateral range or blazing speed to play on the outside "

stockman311 · 04-23-2010, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by poydras

oh yeah?
Arnoux: "Shorter than scouts would like and a bit round in the middle. … Lacks the instincts and quick first step preferred at the "Mike" 'backer position. … Takes a moment to recognize the action and is slow to flow toward the ball. … Lacks the straight-line speed to beat backs to the flanks and is a liability in coverage. … Lacks the lateral agility to consistently get around blockers in tight quarters, thus relying on his pop to disengage. … Needs an open lane to close when rushing the quarterback."

and Dunbar: "Has good closing speed, but lacks the lateral range or blazing speed to play on the outside "

So your claiming Arnoux is a middle linebacker by posting a scouting report saying he can't play middle linebacker? You understand "Mike" means middle right?

Dunbar has already played outside when Fujita went down last year.

D_it_up · 04-23-2010, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by poydras

oh yeah?
Arnoux: "Shorter than scouts would like and a bit round in the middle. … Lacks the instincts and quick first step preferred at the "Mike" 'backer position. … Takes a moment to recognize the action and is slow to flow toward the ball. … Lacks the straight-line speed to beat backs to the flanks and is a liability in coverage. … Lacks the lateral agility to consistently get around blockers in tight quarters, thus relying on his pop to disengage. … Needs an open lane to close when rushing the quarterback."

and Dunbar: "Has good closing speed, but lacks the lateral range or blazing speed to play on the outside "

Oh, yeah. Dunbar has not played a single down at middle linebacker since he's been in the NFL. Every snap he's been in on defense has been on the outside, so you are wrong about him.

Arnoux hasn't seen the field, so neither one of us can honestly evaluate whether he can or can't play the outside. Scouting reports are always conflicting, because it depends on who the scout that is evaluating the player. So, since that is the case, we are both wrong until we see where he is put on the field.

stockman311 · 04-24-2010, 11:30 AM