The Missing Pieces for a Rep

CantonLegend · 04-28-2010, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

No, but if you use examples, at least use ones that support your case, not ones that contradict it, as you originally did.

like which ones? the teams that rushed for 145 yards and 141 yards?

did i prove my point or not?

Danno · 04-28-2010, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

like which ones? the teams that rushed for 145 yards and 141 yards?

did i prove my point or not?

Again, it was only about 5 posts ago...

Dallas 4.0 YPC - that average would rank 25th in the NFL
Washington 3.5 - that average would rank 30th in the NFL

Both examples you used that contradict your point instead of supporting it.

CantonLegend · 04-28-2010, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Again, it was only about 5 posts ago...

Dallas 4.0 YPC - that average would rank 25th in the NFL
Washington 3.5 - that average would rank 30th in the NFL

Both examples you used that contradict your point instead of supporting it.

was it this post where i named off 5 teams? all of which had success against us

all of which had success running the ball and controlling the ball and could've beaten us if it werent for some luck

the ypc stat isnt the only one to take into consideration

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

the problem is that you looked at the end result

saints 13/ opponents 3

the saints could've and should've lost a few more games but by the grace of breesus we managed to pull those games out of our butts

games like dallas, st louis, washington, miami, minnesota, etc all were able to move the ball against us fairly well if not at will

Danno · 04-28-2010, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

was it this post where i named off 5 teams? all of which had success against us

If by success against us you mean that we held two of those teams to a rushing average that would rank near the bottom of the NFL, then yes.

homerj07 · 04-29-2010, 02:06 PM

We are doing some things about DT - We need a LB

chasercg · 05-03-2010, 08:58 AM

Canfield beats out Brees??? There is no way!!!!!

CheramieIII · 05-03-2010, 09:04 AM

I picked DT and LB, but if Woods works out and the younger LB's take hold then I might say just leave it alone.

SaintPauly · 05-03-2010, 11:18 PM

I picked DT, and I will tell you why. We have some guys, coming back from injury, that we don't even really know how they are going to look at LB. With the loss of Grant, (which I can't believe I'm going to say this), who was good at stopping the run, we need another space eater next to Ellis. Now, who knows, Woods could be that guy. Lord knows he's big enough. But I wouldn't mind signing some insurance, to make sure. If we get another all pro DT, then skies the limit. But let's also remember, that when Ellis got hurt last year, teams were running all over us. God forbid, but what if Ellis goes down again? Are you THAT confident in the other DTs we have on the roster? I'm not.

darstep · 05-05-2010, 10:39 AM

DE - Good play on the edges will open up alot of opportunities for our defense. If we can bottle up the ends and send runners deep or force them inside, we can create advantages on the early downs. Defense is still the key for a Saints repeat. I believe our interior will be fine. Speed on the outside, good power rusher and/or an active LB to help Vilma. I tossed a coin (DE vs LB) and it fell on DE. What ever we do, it needs to be done up front.

joker-saint · 05-06-2010, 09:13 PM

While losing Fujita was a serious loss to the team, I feel that Shanley has what it takes to fill in there. The Defensive end position is where my concern is. If we cant maintain pressure on quarterbacks we mine as well call it a day.

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04-28-2010, 12:53 PM	#41
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: The Missing Pieces for a Rep Originally Posted by Danno No, but if you use examples, at least use ones that support your case, not ones that contradict it, as you originally did. like which ones? the teams that rushed for 145 yards and 141 yards? did i prove my point or not?

04-28-2010, 01:04 PM	#42
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,653	Re: The Missing Pieces for a Rep Originally Posted by CantonLegend like which ones? the teams that rushed for 145 yards and 141 yards? did i prove my point or not? Again, it was only about 5 posts ago... Dallas 4.0 YPC - that average would rank 25th in the NFL Washington 3.5 - that average would rank 30th in the NFL Both examples you used that contradict your point instead of supporting it.

04-28-2010, 01:16 PM	#43
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: The Missing Pieces for a Rep Originally Posted by Danno Again, it was only about 5 posts ago... Dallas 4.0 YPC - that average would rank 25th in the NFL Washington 3.5 - that average would rank 30th in the NFL Both examples you used that contradict your point instead of supporting it. was it this post where i named off 5 teams? all of which had success against us all of which had success running the ball and controlling the ball and could've beaten us if it werent for some luck the ypc stat isnt the only one to take into consideration Originally Posted by CantonLegend the problem is that you looked at the end result saints 13/ opponents 3 the saints could've and should've lost a few more games but by the grace of breesus we managed to pull those games out of our butts games like dallas, st louis, washington, miami, minnesota, etc all were able to move the ball against us fairly well if not at will

04-28-2010, 01:58 PM	#44
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,653	Re: The Missing Pieces for a Rep Originally Posted by CantonLegend was it this post where i named off 5 teams? all of which had success against us If by success against us you mean that we held two of those teams to a rushing average that would rank near the bottom of the NFL, then yes.

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04-29-2010, 02:06 PM	#45
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CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,470 Blog Entries: 3	Re: The Missing Pieces for a Rep I picked DT and LB, but if Woods works out and the younger LB's take hold then I might say just leave it alone.

05-03-2010, 11:18 PM	#48
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Re: The Missing Pieces for a Rep I picked DT, and I will tell you why. We have some guys, coming back from injury, that we don't even really know how they are going to look at LB. With the loss of Grant, (which I can't believe I'm going to say this), who was good at stopping the run, we need another space eater next to Ellis. Now, who knows, Woods could be that guy. Lord knows he's big enough. But I wouldn't mind signing some insurance, to make sure. If we get another all pro DT, then skies the limit. But let's also remember, that when Ellis got hurt last year, teams were running all over us. God forbid, but what if Ellis goes down again? Are you THAT confident in the other DTs we have on the roster? I'm not.
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05-05-2010, 10:39 AM	#49
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: The Missing Pieces for a Rep DE - Good play on the edges will open up alot of opportunities for our defense. If we can bottle up the ends and send runners deep or force them inside, we can create advantages on the early downs. Defense is still the key for a Saints repeat. I believe our interior will be fine. Speed on the outside, good power rusher and/or an active LB to help Vilma. I tossed a coin (DE vs LB) and it fell on DE. What ever we do, it needs to be done up front.

05-06-2010, 09:13 PM	#50
joker-saint 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 382 Blog Entries: 12	Re: The Missing Pieces for a Rep While losing Fujita was a serious loss to the team, I feel that Shanley has what it takes to fill in there. The Defensive end position is where my concern is. If we cant maintain pressure on quarterbacks we mine as well call it a day.