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saintz08 · 10-01-2003, 10:47 AM

Big bull ,

That is precisely why Haslett must assume total control of the defense . Look at the total collapse in the defensive schemeing and awareness since Zook departed for Florida . If Haslett cannot get the defense going at least with the players in position to make plays , then the chaos continues . Manning audibled out enough times to get players in play making positions because he new he could exploit a weakness in the defensive line up .

TheOriginalSwampdog · 10-01-2003, 12:32 PM

That sounds great and all, but the only way that will happen is if Haz has some kind of epiphany. Haz was asked if he had a choice of having Zook back or keep Venturi as the DC, he said, \"I\'m not just saying this because Rick is our DC right now, I wouldn\'t trade Rick for anyone. He\'s a great coach\". See, so no matter what we think of RV, Haz thinks he\'s gold, so we\'re all screwed.

WhoDat · 10-01-2003, 03:01 PM

Venturi... great guy, terrible coach. Haslett was a D coordinator. He needs to go back to being one, otherwise... buh-bye Jimmy. We\'d keep Brooks, but Haz\'s head is so far up Brooks\' azz that it\'ll have to be a two-for-one deal.

whowatches · 10-01-2003, 03:21 PM

Is the season really a total loss? I don\'t know if I\'m ready to believe that here at week five.

Does anyone believe that Haslet just might thrive under this kind of pressure? Maybe last year ended badly because we had (I can\'t believe I\'m saying this) too good of a start. Haslet may not be able to handle the pressure of success.

I\'m not saying that Haslet has proven that he deserves another year at this point. However, I\'m not going to root for the opposing team every week just so Haslet can be fired, and the team can waste a number one pick.

I hope that since we are off to such a horrendous start that the coaching staff totally revamps its approach to games and possibly even gives some new faces a shot at game time. That\'s kinda where we were during Haslet\'s first year, right?

Just some thoughts....

WhoDat · 10-01-2003, 04:12 PM

Maybe I\'m hearing him wrong, but Haslett said that he will not make changes to the defense in his press conference. Apparently the Saints just need to execute better, and he can\'t understand why that hasn\'t happened yet.

\"I can\'t understand why this happened\" should be the quote Haslett uses on his tombstone.

Cassady37 · 10-01-2003, 05:03 PM

I, too, believe this season is over for all practical purposes. We need to be thinking about a GM that will keep this team focused, a head coach that has a clue how to motivate and surround himself with a staff that will make him look like a genius. And,I know I\'m going to take flak for this one, we should shop Brooks around before it\'s too late to get the full worth for him, get some nice draft choices for him and plug this offense in with a real leader. On the defensive side of the ball it all starts with a great DC and we\'ll need to pick one up if we expect to go anywhere consistently. Say what you want, Mueller kept this team with a purpose, a direction, and if he stepped on anyone\'s toes, then he did it for a reason. That reason seems to be making itself more apparent with every game gone by.

BlackandBlue · 10-01-2003, 06:28 PM

We need to be thinking about a GM that will keep this team focused, a head coach that has a clue how to motivate and surround himself with a staff that will make him look like a genius.

Keeping the team focused should fall into the laps of the coach. The way the NFL is these days, the GM has to either be a lawyer or an accountant, whose main responsibility is to structure the contracts that will best work around the salary cap or find loopholes in other contracts. There are other day-to-day things, but as far as the team goes, this should be the only influence a GM has. The only drawback with Loomis is that he relies on the staff to inform him who we should pursue, which again, falls on the coaching staff.

saintz08 · 10-01-2003, 11:17 PM

After Sunday night , even Haslett might have to question the defensive play calling . I will say this , Peyton was laying out some beautiful passes , but he picked up on something in the defense that made him audible to it to get that exposure in the secondary .With the starters out the Saints have out , I would have thought The Saints would have gone into a cover 2 scheme more so , then allow Peyton the ability to pick apart man coverage . It seems with the lack of a real running game from the Colts , you knew Peyton was going to have to air it to get the yards .

To me the jury is still out on Loomis , not sure of exactly what fallout occured in the front office after the Mueller incident and how that might have effected the power ratio between owner and manager .

Think Rick Mueller has done a good job .

I know this much , if by week 8 Haslett has done nothing to rectify something on either the offensive or defensive side of the ball .

Get a rope ......

10-01-2003, 10:47 AM	#11
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Saintz08 Big bull , That is precisely why Haslett must assume total control of the defense . Look at the total collapse in the defensive schemeing and awareness since Zook departed for Florida . If Haslett cannot get the defense going at least with the players in position to make plays , then the chaos continues . Manning audibled out enough times to get players in play making positions because he new he could exploit a weakness in the defensive line up .
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10-01-2003, 12:32 PM	#12
TheOriginalSwampdog 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 215	Saintz08 That sounds great and all, but the only way that will happen is if Haz has some kind of epiphany. Haz was asked if he had a choice of having Zook back or keep Venturi as the DC, he said, \"I\'m not just saying this because Rick is our DC right now, I wouldn\'t trade Rick for anyone. He\'s a great coach\". See, so no matter what we think of RV, Haz thinks he\'s gold, so we\'re all screwed.

10-01-2003, 03:01 PM	#13
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Saintz08 Venturi... great guy, terrible coach. Haslett was a D coordinator. He needs to go back to being one, otherwise... buh-bye Jimmy. We\'d keep Brooks, but Haz\'s head is so far up Brooks\' azz that it\'ll have to be a two-for-one deal.
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10-01-2003, 03:21 PM	#14
whowatches 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 575	Saintz08 Is the season really a total loss? I don\'t know if I\'m ready to believe that here at week five. Does anyone believe that Haslet just might thrive under this kind of pressure? Maybe last year ended badly because we had (I can\'t believe I\'m saying this) too good of a start. Haslet may not be able to handle the pressure of success. I\'m not saying that Haslet has proven that he deserves another year at this point. However, I\'m not going to root for the opposing team every week just so Haslet can be fired, and the team can waste a number one pick. I hope that since we are off to such a horrendous start that the coaching staff totally revamps its approach to games and possibly even gives some new faces a shot at game time. That\'s kinda where we were during Haslet\'s first year, right? Just some thoughts....
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10-01-2003, 04:12 PM	#15
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Saintz08 Maybe I\'m hearing him wrong, but Haslett said that he will not make changes to the defense in his press conference. Apparently the Saints just need to execute better, and he can\'t understand why that hasn\'t happened yet. \"I can\'t understand why this happened\" should be the quote Haslett uses on his tombstone.
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10-01-2003, 05:03 PM	#16
Cassady37 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kilgore, Texas Posts: 337	Saintz08 I, too, believe this season is over for all practical purposes. We need to be thinking about a GM that will keep this team focused, a head coach that has a clue how to motivate and surround himself with a staff that will make him look like a genius. And,I know I\'m going to take flak for this one, we should shop Brooks around before it\'s too late to get the full worth for him, get some nice draft choices for him and plug this offense in with a real leader. On the defensive side of the ball it all starts with a great DC and we\'ll need to pick one up if we expect to go anywhere consistently. Say what you want, Mueller kept this team with a purpose, a direction, and if he stepped on anyone\'s toes, then he did it for a reason. That reason seems to be making itself more apparent with every game gone by.

10-01-2003, 06:28 PM	#17
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Saintz08 We need to be thinking about a GM that will keep this team focused, a head coach that has a clue how to motivate and surround himself with a staff that will make him look like a genius. Keeping the team focused should fall into the laps of the coach. The way the NFL is these days, the GM has to either be a lawyer or an accountant, whose main responsibility is to structure the contracts that will best work around the salary cap or find loopholes in other contracts. There are other day-to-day things, but as far as the team goes, this should be the only influence a GM has. The only drawback with Loomis is that he relies on the staff to inform him who we should pursue, which again, falls on the coaching staff.
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10-01-2003, 11:17 PM	#18
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Saintz08 After Sunday night , even Haslett might have to question the defensive play calling . I will say this , Peyton was laying out some beautiful passes , but he picked up on something in the defense that made him audible to it to get that exposure in the secondary .With the starters out the Saints have out , I would have thought The Saints would have gone into a cover 2 scheme more so , then allow Peyton the ability to pick apart man coverage . It seems with the lack of a real running game from the Colts , you knew Peyton was going to have to air it to get the yards . To me the jury is still out on Loomis , not sure of exactly what fallout occured in the front office after the Mueller incident and how that might have effected the power ratio between owner and manager . Think Rick Mueller has done a good job . I know this much , if by week 8 Haslett has done nothing to rectify something on either the offensive or defensive side of the ball . Get a rope ......
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	\"Americans play to win at all times. I wouldn\'t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.\" - George S. Patton On another note, I\'ll take a bite of that crow 08. - Saintfan Brooks is a moron!! - Halo