25th ranked defense...So what!!!

CantonLegend · 05-19-2010, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Not really. The Colts won it a few years back with one of the worst defenses in the league. It's all about creating turnovers and making plays when it counts.

cots had the 21st ranked defense in yards allowed that year.....and the 10th ranked defense in points allowed

our defense was still worse

and yes its nice to create turnovers, but a lot of that is luck and you cant rely on luck.....you need to rely on talent and ability and hope that a little luck happens

papz · 05-20-2010, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

cots had the 21st ranked defense in yards allowed that year.....and the 10th ranked defense in points allowed

our defense was still worse

The point was not who had the worst defense between the two. The point was you don't need an great defense to make it to or win the Superbowl.

It's all about creating turnovers and making plays when it counts.

If you win the turnover battle, the chances of you winning the game increase to about 90% I believe.

and yes its nice to create turnovers, but a lot of that is luck and you cant rely on luck.....you need to rely on talent and ability and hope that a little luck happens

While luck plays a part in it, obviously that player's talent and ability to get into position to create these turnovers do too. So I don't see what you're trying to get at here. I didn't saying anything about relying on luck.

It's all about creating turnovers and making plays when it counts.

CantonLegend · 05-20-2010, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by papz

The point was not who had the worst defense between the two. The point was you don't need an great defense to make it to or win the Superbowl.

my point about that....and yes i agree to a point....is that just because we won it last year with a bad defense, doesnt mean we should try and get by with that again....we shouldve at least been trying to add to our holes this offseason....apparently they are trying but it doesnt seem like they are trying very hard

If you win the turnover battle, the chances of you winning the game increase to about 90% I believe.

idk about the percentage but of course......thats why we won so many games....because we took the ball from them and didnt give it up ourselves

While luck plays a part in it, obviously that player's talent and ability to get into position to create these turnovers do too. So I don't see what you're trying to get at here. I didn't saying anything about relying on luck.

turnovers have a lot to do with luck....thats where luck joined the conversation......you're right that talent and ability go hand in hand because the talent and preparation create a lot of luck

but like i was saying before.....turnovers are more luck than skill.....so its safe to say that our defense was very lucky IMO.....we really didnt stop anybody this year except the pats.....we just thrived off of turnovers

can we get by another year without stopping anyone? history(which really means nothing) has shown us that you really cant get by like that

05-19-2010, 09:21 PM	#1
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: 25th ranked defense...So what!!! Originally Posted by papz Not really. The Colts won it a few years back with one of the worst defenses in the league. It's all about creating turnovers and making plays when it counts. cots had the 21st ranked defense in yards allowed that year.....and the 10th ranked defense in points allowed our defense was still worse and yes its nice to create turnovers, but a lot of that is luck and you cant rely on luck.....you need to rely on talent and ability and hope that a little luck happens

05-20-2010, 06:14 AM	#2
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: 25th ranked defense...So what!!! Originally Posted by CantonLegend cots had the 21st ranked defense in yards allowed that year.....and the 10th ranked defense in points allowed our defense was still worse The point was not who had the worst defense between the two. The point was you don't need an great defense to make it to or win the Superbowl. It's all about creating turnovers and making plays when it counts. If you win the turnover battle, the chances of you winning the game increase to about 90% I believe. and yes its nice to create turnovers, but a lot of that is luck and you cant rely on luck.....you need to rely on talent and ability and hope that a little luck happens While luck plays a part in it, obviously that player's talent and ability to get into position to create these turnovers do too. So I don't see what you're trying to get at here. I didn't saying anything about relying on luck. It's all about creating turnovers and making plays when it counts.

05-20-2010, 08:41 AM	#3
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: 25th ranked defense...So what!!! Originally Posted by papz The point was not who had the worst defense between the two. The point was you don't need an great defense to make it to or win the Superbowl. my point about that....and yes i agree to a point....is that just because we won it last year with a bad defense, doesnt mean we should try and get by with that again....we shouldve at least been trying to add to our holes this offseason....apparently they are trying but it doesnt seem like they are trying very hard If you win the turnover battle, the chances of you winning the game increase to about 90% I believe. idk about the percentage but of course......thats why we won so many games....because we took the ball from them and didnt give it up ourselves While luck plays a part in it, obviously that player's talent and ability to get into position to create these turnovers do too. So I don't see what you're trying to get at here. I didn't saying anything about relying on luck. turnovers have a lot to do with luck....thats where luck joined the conversation......you're right that talent and ability go hand in hand because the talent and preparation create a lot of luck but like i was saying before.....turnovers are more luck than skill.....so its safe to say that our defense was very lucky IMO.....we really didnt stop anybody this year except the pats.....we just thrived off of turnovers can we get by another year without stopping anyone? history(which really means nothing) has shown us that you really cant get by like that
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