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Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?

I don't like the dude personally but can't deny what he did at one point do for this team so i say yes..

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 228449)

It isn't that I disagree with the spirit of your post, but then there is no HOF criteria set in stone. Joe Horn left on a bad note for our hated enemy and he's in the Saints HOF (as I believe he should be), so shouldn't that matter?

That is the beauty/curse of any HOF. Like the BCS in college football, it spurs debate. His numbers, compared to other Saints QBs surely put him in. But, as with the Horn comparrison, while he left on a sour note, I don't think anyone ever questioned Horn's desire and effort he gave to win. I don't think the same can be said of Brooks.

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 228449)

There were some bad plays, but the good FAR outnumbered the bad regardless of the fact that people (some, many, but not all) latched on to them in a way to promote their argument for Delhomme, and everyone can say what they want, 50% of the Brooks hate (likely more) was because we had a local guy at #2 that everyone wanted so badly to believe was better.

I'll grant that. I was not a Delhomme fan, but the local fanbase and media sure wanted him to do well.

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 228449)

FACT is Brooks was a talented QB with a sub-standard D, an underachieving O-Line, mediocre WR's, etc. Given a better D and who knows. Had he not been required to run backwards at the immediate snap of the ball more often than not, who knows? In this case, the numbers don't lie. Brooks was not a malcontent. If his numbers warrant it (and I think they do) I don't think he should be kept from the Saints HOF just because he didn't pout and whine after every bad play - I personally like the fact that he laughed it off so many times. It was refreshing when help up against the "Wah wah wah they bumped the WR I always lock on to" crap I saw from Delhomme week after week after week.

I see your points, and I did not Dislike Brooks. I'm not saying I wanted him to whine or pout or gripe either. And while he was a talented QB, I felt he wasted that talent in a way and never tried to work to be the best QB he could be. I never saw his attitude as being that of a winner. He didn't drag the team down, true. But he seldom took them on his back and inspired the confidence in the team that he was going to lead them to victory. He may have had 17 come from behind victories (does that mean the other team scored on the opening drive of the game and we came back and won after being down 3-0?). But when I think of guys for the HOF, I think of guys that had winning as their main goal (weather they did or not is another question). To me, Brooks' main goal was to get through the games. If he won it was a plus, but it was never the focus of his game.

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?

Slow post didn't fall where I intended! (edit)

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?

In my opinion he has no business in the Saints HOF. He wasn't a leader and he actually held us back. imho If we had a decent QB we could have been better. I can't recall being as upset with any Saint as I was on bone headed play after bone headed play and stupid mistakes. He wasn't very bright. Not only no but heck no.

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?

easily our best QB in franchise history up until the last 4 seasons

why shouldnt he be in it?

there isnt a single reason why someone could say he doesnt deserve it

because he was emotional? how dare he get upset when 20000 fans are booing him

how dare he throw his helmet and kick water bottles when the team cant manage to hold a lead that he just gave them

aaron brooks was a good QB....not a great QB....not a great football player....but the guy was the best thing we had and now that we are spoiled we forget how much brooks actually did for us

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?

Yes indeed, Aaron Brooks will be in the Saints Hall of Fame, and deservingly so. That playoff win against the Rams pretty much sealed it. I realize he had an up and down time, but when it came down to the end of a game, he always gave the Saints a chance to win. During that era I never really had the feeling that the Saints were ever doomed, despite trailing in a game. More often than not, Brooks would come through.

Bad coaching decisions throughout his career, like going for two points in those 14-10 games in the second quarter did not help, not putting him on the bench when he was obviously hurt, and not to mention the 2005 season in which he had no chance totally killed his career.

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?

I'd put him in, but not on the stats. This isn't fantasy football HOF.

I just can't forget that first season and the playoff win, all after Blake got hurt and most of us probably thought the season was lost. For a guy who we picked up from Green Bay for a song, he had a pretty good career, even with the character and leadership weaknesses.

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To answer a previously asked question......... What should a good QB do after making a bone-head play? What every good QB does!!!! Look at the game film on the sidelines & study the defense for the next offensive play. Look at Brees, Manning, Brady, Elway, Marino, etc.... It's what they do/did after every mistake. Brooks simply walked off smiling. Physically talented, but dumb as a sack of rocks. Is there any wonder that he hasn't played a lick in years????

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Hypothetical question...

Had we not won the Superbowl last year and finished with a .500 record (or somewhere around there), for many, would we really be having this conversation?

Let's skip the "if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle" stuff. It's a hypothetical. I don't think we would and I believe those polls votes would move in the opposite direction... but that's just me. As some have mentioned, you don't have to like the guy and it's definitely not the NFL HOF.

Re: Should Aaron Brooks make the Saints Hall of Fame one day?

haslett probably will never head coach an nfl team again after his hot headed play calling/ penalty's named after him. then the most famous of all not taking brooks out when his throws spiraled aimlessly out of the way of his recievers. we maybe would have had another playoff win. did brooks ever take another snap after getting the axe from n.o.?