Is the media still purposely posting unfavorable looking Saints pics?

saintsfan1976 · 06-22-2010, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

because we arent getting better

You're being pessimistic.

TopCow · 06-22-2010, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

You're being pessimistic.

I think that's a reference to an article by some wacko from SI.com.

CantonLegend · 06-22-2010, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

You're being pessimistic.

im trying to look at what we've done this offseason and trick myself into thinking we've improved

im struggling at it right now

st thomas · 06-22-2010, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

im trying to look at what we've done this offseason and trick myself into thinking we've improved

im struggling at it right now

thats what i'm thinking is alex brown that much better than mccray? for one, is a reconstruted knee on lb ingram better than fujita? are we really getting better. maybe at backup cornerback like robinson.

saintsfan1976 · 06-23-2010, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

im trying to look at what we've done this offseason and trick myself into thinking we've improved

im struggling at it right now

Kinda like when you thought we'd struggle w/o Faine?

Fujita's spot needed an upgrade. We have like 20 LB's on the roster...

Brown wasn't in the future plans and Charles Brown was drafted to eventually supplant Bushrod.

More youth/depth was added to the O and D lines.

We have the offense intact.

We resigned Sharper.

Our secondary is stronger.

Grant & McCray out - Brown & Wilkerson in.

Now, I still believe - as I think you do - that our D line needs more depth.

I'm trusting (given it's history) that our coaches have a plan to improve it.

FireVenturi · 06-24-2010, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Kinda like when you thought we'd struggle w/o Faine?

Fujita's spot needed an upgrade. We have like 20 LB's on the roster...

Brown wasn't in the future plans and Charles Brown was drafted to eventually supplant Bushrod.

More youth/depth was added to the O and D lines.

We have the offense intact.

We resigned Sharper.

Our secondary is stronger.

Grant & McCray out - Brown & Wilkerson in.

Now, I still believe - as I think you do - that our D line needs more depth.

I'm trusting (given it's history) that our coaches have a plan to improve it.

I agree SF, we will be fine. Brown didnt play anyway and we still went all the way. Fujita was average and went to a team that overpaid. The only loss Im slightly worried about is McCray and Im sure the staff has a plan.
Robinson, Brown, Graham...Im already smelling improvment...

What's it going to take for some of you guys to stop doubting our organization?

FV

CantonLegend · 06-24-2010, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by FireVenturi

I agree SF, we will be fine. Brown didnt play anyway and we still went all the way. Fujita was average and went to a team that overpaid. The only loss Im slightly worried about is McCray and Im sure the staff has a plan.
Robinson, Brown, Graham...Im already smelling improvment...

What's it going to take for some of you guys to stop doubting our organization?

FV

amazing that our starting LT gets traded but its not as big an issue as a backup DE with limited playing time

you guys wonder why the media looks down on us as a team. its because we make stupid decisions like we've been doin this offseason

our team is very good. but its not getting better by subtracting players and the players we brought in arent improvements over the players we had last season

we drafted a LT that is a pass blocker ONLY.....he isnt very strong. we arent going to alternate LTs every play to make up for the loss of brown....we cant put in a rookie LT every time we need to pass and put in bushrod every time we need to run

saintsfan1976 · 06-24-2010, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

amazing that our starting LT gets traded but its not as big an issue as a backup DE with limited playing time

Wait, what....Bushrod was TRADED!!??

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

you guys wonder why the media looks down on us as a team. its because we make stupid decisions like we've been doin this offseason

Let's see here...

Bring in a top GM - check
Bring in a great head coach - check
Bring in a Pro Bowl QB - check
Draft quality starting players more often than not - check
Break records for wins, wins in a row, passes, yards, td's, etc... check
Bring in the top Def coordinator in the NFL - check
Completely turn a losing franchise around in three years - check
Win the franchises first ever superbowl - CHECK

What am I missing here?

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

our team is very good. but its not getting better by subtracting players and the players we brought in arent improvements over the players we had last season

Alex Brown is better than Grant. Wilkerson is a welcome addition.

I am - like you - concerned about our current depth on the D line.

Let's reserve judgement for the rookies until we see them play.

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

we drafted a LT that is a pass blocker ONLY.....he isnt very strong. we arent going to alternate LTs every play to make up for the loss of brown....we cant put in a rookie LT every time we need to pass and put in bushrod every time we need to run

I said "eventually" supplant Bushrod.

CantonLegend · 06-24-2010, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Wait, what....Bushrod was TRADED!!??

lol funny guy. what happens when you trade away the better player for what the worse player was worth?

Let's see here...

Bring in a top GM - check
Bring in a great head coach - check
Bring in a Pro Bowl QB - check
Draft quality starting players more often than not - check
Break records for wins, wins in a row, passes, yards, td's, etc... check
Bring in the top Def coordinator in the NFL - check
Completely turn a losing franchise around in three years - check
Win the franchises first ever superbowl - CHECK

What am I missing here?

the positives are there....and we are definitly a good team. but have we gotten better since winning the championship? does the recent history we've had outshine the terrible history we have had as a team and an organization

how does lack of progress this offseason provide any source of hope for this season at all? im all for being optimistic when its the right time...ive defended a lot of players when nobody else would.....but is it worth being unrealistic?

Alex Brown is better than Grant.

in what way?

st thomas · 06-24-2010, 04:25 PM

[QUOTE=saintsfan1976;231150]Wait, what....Bushrod was TRADED!!??

Let's see here...

Bring in a top GM - check
Bring in a great head coach - check
Bring in a Pro Bowl QB - check
Draft quality starting players more often than not - check
Break records for wins, wins in a row, passes, yards, td's, etc... check
Bring in the top Def coordinator in the NFL - check
Completely turn a losing franchise around in three years - check
Win the franchises first ever superbowl - CHECK

What am I missing here?

on opening day, re-retire brett farve-check
keep this going everyone

06-22-2010, 11:03 AM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,024 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Is the media still purposely posting unfavorable looking Saints pics? Originally Posted by CantonLegend because we arent getting better You're being pessimistic.

06-22-2010, 12:40 PM	#2
TopCow 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 299	Re: Is the media still purposely posting unfavorable looking Saints pics? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 You're being pessimistic. I think that's a reference to an article by some wacko from SI.com.
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06-22-2010, 01:18 PM	#3
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Is the media still purposely posting unfavorable looking Saints pics? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 You're being pessimistic. im trying to look at what we've done this offseason and trick myself into thinking we've improved im struggling at it right now

06-22-2010, 02:24 PM	#4
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Is the media still purposely posting unfavorable looking Saints pics? Originally Posted by CantonLegend im trying to look at what we've done this offseason and trick myself into thinking we've improved im struggling at it right now thats what i'm thinking is alex brown that much better than mccray? for one, is a reconstruted knee on lb ingram better than fujita? are we really getting better. maybe at backup cornerback like robinson.

06-23-2010, 08:55 AM	#5
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,024 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Is the media still purposely posting unfavorable looking Saints pics? Originally Posted by CantonLegend im trying to look at what we've done this offseason and trick myself into thinking we've improved im struggling at it right now Kinda like when you thought we'd struggle w/o Faine? Fujita's spot needed an upgrade. We have like 20 LB's on the roster... Brown wasn't in the future plans and Charles Brown was drafted to eventually supplant Bushrod. More youth/depth was added to the O and D lines. We have the offense intact. We resigned Sharper. Our secondary is stronger. Grant & McCray out - Brown & Wilkerson in. Now, I still believe - as I think you do - that our D line needs more depth. I'm trusting (given it's history) that our coaches have a plan to improve it.

06-24-2010, 02:47 PM	#6
FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Re: Is the media still purposely posting unfavorable looking Saints pics? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Kinda like when you thought we'd struggle w/o Faine? Fujita's spot needed an upgrade. We have like 20 LB's on the roster... Brown wasn't in the future plans and Charles Brown was drafted to eventually supplant Bushrod. More youth/depth was added to the O and D lines. We have the offense intact. We resigned Sharper. Our secondary is stronger. Grant & McCray out - Brown & Wilkerson in. Now, I still believe - as I think you do - that our D line needs more depth. I'm trusting (given it's history) that our coaches have a plan to improve it. I agree SF, we will be fine. Brown didnt play anyway and we still went all the way. Fujita was average and went to a team that overpaid. The only loss Im slightly worried about is McCray and Im sure the staff has a plan. Robinson, Brown, Graham...Im already smelling improvment... What's it going to take for some of you guys to stop doubting our organization? FV

06-24-2010, 03:45 PM	#7
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Is the media still purposely posting unfavorable looking Saints pics? Originally Posted by FireVenturi I agree SF, we will be fine. Brown didnt play anyway and we still went all the way. Fujita was average and went to a team that overpaid. The only loss Im slightly worried about is McCray and Im sure the staff has a plan. Robinson, Brown, Graham...Im already smelling improvment... What's it going to take for some of you guys to stop doubting our organization? FV amazing that our starting LT gets traded but its not as big an issue as a backup DE with limited playing time you guys wonder why the media looks down on us as a team. its because we make stupid decisions like we've been doin this offseason our team is very good. but its not getting better by subtracting players and the players we brought in arent improvements over the players we had last season we drafted a LT that is a pass blocker ONLY.....he isnt very strong. we arent going to alternate LTs every play to make up for the loss of brown....we cant put in a rookie LT every time we need to pass and put in bushrod every time we need to run
	"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd

06-24-2010, 04:13 PM	#8
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,024 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Is the media still purposely posting unfavorable looking Saints pics? Originally Posted by CantonLegend amazing that our starting LT gets traded but its not as big an issue as a backup DE with limited playing time Wait, what....Bushrod was TRADED!!?? Originally Posted by CantonLegend you guys wonder why the media looks down on us as a team. its because we make stupid decisions like we've been doin this offseason Let's see here... Bring in a top GM - check Bring in a great head coach - check Bring in a Pro Bowl QB - check Draft quality starting players more often than not - check Break records for wins, wins in a row, passes, yards, td's, etc... check Bring in the top Def coordinator in the NFL - check Completely turn a losing franchise around in three years - check Win the franchises first ever superbowl - CHECK What am I missing here? Originally Posted by CantonLegend our team is very good. but its not getting better by subtracting players and the players we brought in arent improvements over the players we had last season Alex Brown is better than Grant. Wilkerson is a welcome addition. I am - like you - concerned about our current depth on the D line. Let's reserve judgement for the rookies until we see them play. Originally Posted by CantonLegend we drafted a LT that is a pass blocker ONLY.....he isnt very strong. we arent going to alternate LTs every play to make up for the loss of brown....we cant put in a rookie LT every time we need to pass and put in bushrod every time we need to run I said "eventually" supplant Bushrod.

06-24-2010, 04:19 PM	#9
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Is the media still purposely posting unfavorable looking Saints pics? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Wait, what....Bushrod was TRADED!!?? lol funny guy. what happens when you trade away the better player for what the worse player was worth? Let's see here... Bring in a top GM - check Bring in a great head coach - check Bring in a Pro Bowl QB - check Draft quality starting players more often than not - check Break records for wins, wins in a row, passes, yards, td's, etc... check Bring in the top Def coordinator in the NFL - check Completely turn a losing franchise around in three years - check Win the franchises first ever superbowl - CHECK What am I missing here? the positives are there....and we are definitly a good team. but have we gotten better since winning the championship? does the recent history we've had outshine the terrible history we have had as a team and an organization how does lack of progress this offseason provide any source of hope for this season at all? im all for being optimistic when its the right time...ive defended a lot of players when nobody else would.....but is it worth being unrealistic? Alex Brown is better than Grant. in what way?
	"deal with it or you can go play the saints and get trounced by 30 and you won't have to worry about it."-colin cowherd

06-24-2010, 04:25 PM	#10
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Is the media still purposely posting unfavorable looking Saints pics? [QUOTE=saintsfan1976;231150]Wait, what....Bushrod was TRADED!!?? Let's see here... Bring in a top GM - check Bring in a great head coach - check Bring in a Pro Bowl QB - check Draft quality starting players more often than not - check Break records for wins, wins in a row, passes, yards, td's, etc... check Bring in the top Def coordinator in the NFL - check Completely turn a losing franchise around in three years - check Win the franchises first ever superbowl - CHECK What am I missing here? on opening day, re-retire brett farve-check keep this going everyone

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