18 Game Season backed and virtually approved

Budsdrinker · 08-26-2010, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by mighty12

I for one hate it, 16 games has worked since the 70s why change it now? I think fans who pay to watch the games should be outraged. Owners want them to dish out more money to watch what could turn out to be a meaningless game, at least when you pay the money for a preseason game you know it will be meaningless fun. I also think that the players are all against this. If Drew says no, we should all say no.

You already pay for these games. If they move to 18 game regular season, they will only play 2 preseason games instead of 4. It's still a 20 game season plus the playoffs. I'm all for it. I pay for 10 home games,I don't get to pay for only regular season games, I have to pay for them all yet I see starters play 2 quarters in preseason. They don't sell me beer at half price so if I'm paying full price I want to see full price players.

strato · 08-26-2010, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

You already pay for these games. If they move to 18 game regular season, they will only play 2 preseason games instead of 4. It's still a 20 game season plus the playoffs. I'm all for it. I pay for 10 home games,I don't get to pay for only regular season games, I have to pay for them all yet I see starters play 2 quarters in preseason. They don't sell me beer at half price so if I'm paying full price I want to see full price players.

^this

skymike · 08-27-2010, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

You already pay for these games. If they move to 18 game regular season, they will only play 2 preseason games instead of 4. ...

uh uh, Buds, not buying it, dude. You watch, they're gonna jack up the prices because 2 of the games will be real. I dont believe for a minute they wont. I sell my preseason tickets, so they're not a problem.

If this isnt the classic golden egg laying goose story laid out before our eyes, I dont know what is.

Here's my solution to the preseason problem, and I've presented it before.

1. leave it like it is. why risk killing your golden geese, just to get 2 more eggs.

2. take preseason out of the season ticket package. take the price of 1 game out of the cost. im thinking like an owner here. pocket a little, but drop the price by one game. When's the last time anything went down? everybody wins.

3. play all preseason games at alternate sites: minor league cities or college towns, for people who dont get the chance to see their team in person. example: Shreveport, Jackson, Mobile, Lafayette, Monroe, Beaumont... Did anybody go to Shreveport game in '06? The local people treated it like a Super Bowl. Now you have an event that sells, plus you're launching a "barnstorming" tour, making new fans. This is actually how the NFL started its rise to power in the old days.

4. get control of salaries, so we dont have to continually be subjected to these fan and game-screwing ideas: PSLs, 30 dollar parking, the build-me-a-new-stadium-with-more-revenue game, endless promotion (this coin toss sponsored by roto-rooter), and the #1 money induced abomination of sports: moving.

They will raise prices to reflect "giving you" 2 extra real games.
You heard it here first.

Saint_LB · 08-27-2010, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

Here's my solution to the preseason problem, and I've presented it before.

1. leave it like it is. why risk killing your golden geese, just to get 2 more eggs.

First of all, you yourself called it a problem...(see avove quote from skymike)

If it is in fact a problem, and obviously some people think it is...then why leave it alone?

I don't see your point with the raising ticket prices. You already pay full price for preseason games...you will now have one more game that is real for your money.

If they raise the prices, they will have to do it for all games...and guess what. Back in '67 you could get a ticket for a lot less than you could today. It's called inflation, and they've been raising the prices the whole time without adding any more games.

skymike · 08-27-2010, 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

I don't see your point with the raising ticket prices. You already pay full price for preseason games...you will now have one more game that is real for your money.....

yeah, but where does it stop? Next time they cant control salaries, are they just going to go, "hey baseball has 162 games." lets do that.

Its just not worth it to me, if knocks 3 years off Drew's career. Eventually, your most important player on the team will be the 3rd string QB. Do you really want this?

I love going to Saints games, but Im pretty much to the top of my budget already.... I'd love to eat mexican food and drink whiskey every day too, but at some point, I have to cut myself off. at least from one of those things.

Love ya mans.

Saint_LB · 08-27-2010, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

yeah, but where does it stop? Next time they cant control salaries, are they just going to go, "hey baseball has 162 games." lets do that.

Its just not worth it to me, if knocks 3 years off Drew's career. Eventually, your most important player on the team will be the 3rd string QB. Do you really want this?

I love going to Saints games, but Im pretty much to the top of my budget already.... I'd love to eat mexican food and drink whiskey every day too, but at some point, I have to cut myself off. at least from one of those things.

Love ya mans.

Dude...they've been playing 20 the whole time...just more count now. To my knowledge, they haven't changed the amount of games they've been playing for a long time.

I don't buy into the knocking 3 years off Drew's career...it's kinda like just throwing something out there...like my wife does all the time. What proof do you have of this?

...and as far as the price goes, how can you complain? You are the one that allows it to happen. You...me...and everyone else. If you want the salaries and the madness to stop, start watching TVLand on Sunday.

skymike · 08-27-2010, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

Dude...they've been playing 20 the whole time...just more count now. To my knowledge, they haven't changed the amount of games they've been playing for a long time.

I don't buy into the knocking 3 years off Drew's career...it's kinda like just throwing something out there...like my wife does all the time. What proof do you have of this?
...

no, they play 16 games, and have 4 practice games, which the starters only play a few series, then go sit down while we evaluate the camp players & backups.

do I have to prove that playing 2 full extra regular season games adds to wear and tear? Use the Force, Luke, and feel the answer within you.

Saint_LB · 08-27-2010, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

no, they play 16 games, and have 4 practice games, which the starters only play a few series, then go sit down while we evaluate the camp players & backups.

do I have to prove that playing 2 full extra regular season games adds to wear and tear?

It's still 20 games no matter how you slice it...they've never tried to change that number, as you suggested.

,,,and, yes...if you are going to contend that playing 2 more games a year is going to cut down on a players career by 3 years, then I'm going to need some proof of that.

I can say, for example, that playing 2 more games a year is going to be good for them physically because they will be getting more exercise and therefore be more fit...however, I would be just throwing something out there to fit my argument.

08-26-2010, 10:39 PM	#2
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Originally Posted by Budsdrinker You already pay for these games. If they move to 18 game regular season, they will only play 2 preseason games instead of 4. It's still a 20 game season plus the playoffs. I'm all for it. I pay for 10 home games,I don't get to pay for only regular season games, I have to pay for them all yet I see starters play 2 quarters in preseason. They don't sell me beer at half price so if I'm paying full price I want to see full price players. ^this

08-27-2010, 05:47 AM	#3
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Originally Posted by Budsdrinker You already pay for these games. If they move to 18 game regular season, they will only play 2 preseason games instead of 4. ... uh uh, Buds, not buying it, dude. You watch, they're gonna jack up the prices because 2 of the games will be real. I dont believe for a minute they wont. I sell my preseason tickets, so they're not a problem. If this isnt the classic golden egg laying goose story laid out before our eyes, I dont know what is. Here's my solution to the preseason problem, and I've presented it before. 1. leave it like it is. why risk killing your golden geese, just to get 2 more eggs. 2. take preseason out of the season ticket package. take the price of 1 game out of the cost. im thinking like an owner here. pocket a little, but drop the price by one game. When's the last time anything went down? everybody wins. 3. play all preseason games at alternate sites: minor league cities or college towns, for people who dont get the chance to see their team in person. example: Shreveport, Jackson, Mobile, Lafayette, Monroe, Beaumont... Did anybody go to Shreveport game in '06? The local people treated it like a Super Bowl. Now you have an event that sells, plus you're launching a "barnstorming" tour, making new fans. This is actually how the NFL started its rise to power in the old days. 4. get control of salaries, so we dont have to continually be subjected to these fan and game-screwing ideas: PSLs, 30 dollar parking, the build-me-a-new-stadium-with-more-revenue game, endless promotion (this coin toss sponsored by roto-rooter), and the #1 money induced abomination of sports: moving. They will raise prices to reflect "giving you" 2 extra real games. You heard it here first.
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08-27-2010, 05:58 AM	#4
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Originally Posted by skymike Here's my solution to the preseason problem, and I've presented it before. 1. leave it like it is. why risk killing your golden geese, just to get 2 more eggs. First of all, you yourself called it a problem...(see avove quote from skymike) If it is in fact a problem, and obviously some people think it is...then why leave it alone? I don't see your point with the raising ticket prices. You already pay full price for preseason games...you will now have one more game that is real for your money. If they raise the prices, they will have to do it for all games...and guess what. Back in '67 you could get a ticket for a lot less than you could today. It's called inflation, and they've been raising the prices the whole time *without* adding any more games.
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Whether you think you can or think you can't...you're right!

08-27-2010, 06:48 AM	#5
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Originally Posted by Saint_LB I don't see your point with the raising ticket prices. You already pay full price for preseason games...you will now have one more game that is real for your money..... yeah, but where does it stop? Next time they cant control salaries, are they just going to go, "hey baseball has 162 games." lets do that. Its just not worth it to me, if knocks 3 years off Drew's career. Eventually, your most important player on the team will be the 3rd string QB. Do you really want this? I love going to Saints games, but Im pretty much to the top of my budget already.... I'd love to eat mexican food and drink whiskey every day too, but at some point, I have to cut myself off. at least from one of those things. Love ya mans.

08-27-2010, 06:54 AM	#6
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Originally Posted by skymike yeah, but where does it stop? Next time they cant control salaries, are they just going to go, "hey baseball has 162 games." lets do that. Its just not worth it to me, if knocks 3 years off Drew's career. Eventually, your most important player on the team will be the 3rd string QB. Do you really want this? I love going to Saints games, but Im pretty much to the top of my budget already.... I'd love to eat mexican food and drink whiskey every day too, but at some point, I have to cut myself off. at least from one of those things. Love ya mans. Dude...they've been playing 20 the whole time...just more count now. To my knowledge, they haven't changed the amount of games they've been playing for a long time. I don't buy into the knocking 3 years off Drew's career...it's kinda like just throwing something out there...like my wife does all the time. What proof do you have of this? ...and as far as the price goes, how can you complain? You are the one that allows it to happen. You...me...and everyone else. If you want the salaries and the madness to stop, start watching TVLand on Sunday.
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08-26-2010, 10:30 PM	#1
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Originally Posted by mighty12 I for one hate it, 16 games has worked since the 70s why change it now? I think fans who pay to watch the games should be outraged. Owners want them to dish out more money to watch what could turn out to be a meaningless game, at least when you pay the money for a preseason game you know it will be meaningless fun. I also think that the players are all against this. If Drew says no, we should all say no. You already pay for these games. If they move to 18 game regular season, they will only play 2 preseason games instead of 4. It's still a 20 game season plus the playoffs. I'm all for it. I pay for 10 home games,I don't get to pay for only regular season games, I have to pay for them all yet I see starters play 2 quarters in preseason. They don't sell me beer at half price so if I'm paying full price I want to see full price players.

08-27-2010, 07:29 AM	#7
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Originally Posted by Saint_LB Dude...they've been playing 20 the whole time...just more count now. To my knowledge, they haven't changed the amount of games they've been playing for a long time. I don't buy into the knocking 3 years off Drew's career...it's kinda like just throwing something out there...like my wife does all the time. What proof do you have of this? ... no, they play 16 games, and have 4 practice games, which the starters only play a few series, then go sit down while we evaluate the camp players & backups. do I have to prove that playing 2 full extra regular season games adds to wear and tear? Use the Force, Luke, and feel the answer within you.

08-27-2010, 08:52 AM	#8
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Originally Posted by skymike no, they play 16 games, and have 4 practice games, which the starters only play a few series, then go sit down while we evaluate the camp players & backups. do I have to prove that playing 2 full extra regular season games adds to wear and tear? It's still 20 games no matter how you slice it...they've never tried to change that number, as you suggested. ,,,and, yes...if you are going to contend that playing 2 more games a year is going to cut down on a players career by 3 years, then I'm going to need some proof of that. I can say, for example, that playing 2 more games a year is going to be good for them physically because they will be getting more exercise and therefore be more fit...however, I would be just throwing something out there to fit my argument.
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Whether you think you can or think you can't...you're right!